THC + Sea Urchins = New Drugs

[Comatose]

Sorry for the misunderstanding, your post just made it seem like you were comparing me to a nazi doctor thats all.

We all reap the rewards of the important research, but is it right to think we are MORE important than other species?

With that said...I doubt any other species have volunteered , but are used none the less, right?

All I was trying to say is Modern Medicine has helped society greatly and should not be taken for granted. What ur getting into is the laws of nature. Yes an animal can't volunteer because they can't communicate with us, but what your saying is that we shouldn't kill a fly because it part of nature, I doubt the fly volunteered to die ethier. So I hope your a buddhist or ur just another hypocrite. I am not saying we are more important than any other species at all, and I don't know if we would all be standing here if all the flys were wiped off the earth, but some sacrifices have to be made for research to benefit us and other animals. It would be a different story if somebody was trying to wipe a whole species off the earth. Smoke a Joint im not trying to fight with u I just doubt that u have never killed anything, and at least the scientist are doing it for a cause.

 

[pipeline]

Pretty sure THC, like cocoa in chocolate causes your brain to produce higher concentrations of anandamide... Its interesting that combining THC with this neurotransmitter.

Intersting related site:

http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/i/i_03/i_03_m/i_03_m_par/i_03_m_par_cannabis.html#drogues

HOW DRUGS AFFECT NEUROTRANSMITTERS: Cannabis
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The sensations of slight euphoria, relaxation, and amplified auditory and visual perceptions produced by marijuana are due almost entirely to its effect on the cannabinoid receptors in the brain. These receptors are present almost everywhere in the brain, and an endogenous molecule that binds to them naturally has been identified: anandamide........

 

[blAsia]

^^^^^CT:

it was implied that we all commit some of those; roaches carry disease like sewer rats, ants can/do bite, and wasps sting, they go because they do attack easily and my injure my family. And, black widows, they are dangerous... I wouldn't go in search of in the forest to kill them, but here, they can be a direct, deadly threat.

I really try not to kill. I do set most bugs free... I do eat beef occasionally, but I don't think I could kill a cow, unless it was seriously, life, or death.

Enough, anyway.

Peace.

 

[Comatose]

Its all the same, and I totaly understand where your coming from as I don't agree with senseless killing aswell, I just wanted you to understand where I am comming from. We Cool, much love my friend and no hard feelings.

 

[Guest]

That is incorrect. If they had no nervous system they wouldn't be able to see, walk around, mate, respond to stimuli, etc. In fact, Sea Urchins and humans are more related than you think:

http://www.livescience.com/animals/061109_urchin_relatives.html

actually they can't see, they don't have eyes. and trust me an animal doesn't have to have a nervous system to move around, mate, or respond to stimuli. Porifera and Cnidaria (sponges and jelly fish) have no brain and no nervous system but they can still mate and eat and respond to stimuli, and jellies can move around. jellies actually have nerves but they don't have a brain or an actual nervous system. but i broke out my biology notebook and discovered that i was actually wrong about the sea urchins, they do have a very basic, simple nervous system. like it says in that article, sea urchins belong to the class echinodermata, which is exactly what we were talking about in my biology class a few weeks ago. but apparently i need to study a lil more cuz i was wrong about that

 

[Sammet]

and trust me an animal doesn't have to have a nervous system to move around, mate, or respond to stimuli. Porifera and Cnidaria (sponges and jelly fish) have no brain and no nervous system but they can still mate and eat and respond to stimuli, and jellies can move around. jellies actually have nerves but they don't have a brain or an actual nervous system. but i broke out my biology notebook and discovered that i was actually wrong about the sea urchins, they do have a very basic, simple nervous system. like it says in that article, sea urchins belong to the class echinodermata, which is exactly what we were talking about in my biology class a few weeks ago. but apparently i need to study a lil more cuz i was wrong about that

Technically A sponge isn't a true animal, seeing as it only has two cell layers and can be described as a collection of Protozoa. You can blend a sponge and it will reform. Anyway thats not what this thread is about. (I've studyied zoology for the past 4 years, including Porifera/Cnidaria, and to call anything a true animal it is classed as having a nervous system - seriously if you're a student think about it logically. Just because it doesn't have a brain doesn't mean it doesn't have a nervous system. There's an important distinction.)

 

[9Lives]

you just want to experiment on me like the Nazi Doctors of passed...okay. Let me lay down first, then you can strap me down and begin the torture.

gladly...

i'll start with the balls and work my way up..

 

[Verite]

You misunderstand what they said. They have not used anything from the urchins they used Anandamide/THC hybrids to look for new compounds that will help research or testing for medicine.

-SamS

Wouldnt it be a safe assumption that they didnt extract the material they used from human brains?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandamide#Endogenous_and_dietary_sources

 

[Haps]

If we put the buds and the urchins in the blender, will they reconstitute? And get me zones to a new level?
HHH

 

[Danknuggler]

maybe not Hap Overland, but add ice cream and it would make a wonderful milkshake!!nuggler

 

[gordonliu]

this study did not produce any drugs. the molecules that they made are research chemicals. most, if not all, are probably unsafe for human consumption. the goal of the research had absolutely nothing to do with producing a higher potency drug.

the research was done to understand how the structure of a cannabinoid receptor cofactor affects the receptor. understanding how the shape of the small molecule affects function, allows them to understand the receptors themselves.

ONCE they understand that, THEN they can make molecules that are better. anything else is hit or miss. they are shooting in the dark until they figure it out. and no one wants to pay for hit or miss chemistry, its a waste of money.



also, just as a side note, the techniques used to isolate compounds from natural sources (which comes out of a field of chemistry known as natural product) are very well established. people are picking up sea sponges, mushrooms, bacteria, and all sorts of crap, grindin em up, extracting them, and isolating the compounds and doing structural analysis. they then screen them for known biological activity to determine potential candidates for drugs. some people make a living doing just that.

 

[Comatose]

Guess some people just agiants research, but really they don't know how much it is impacting their lives. You Never Know What Will Happen, Unless You Try!