THC resistance

[Evil 1]

Hey Dubi, I've had a chance to do some additional reading and going on rolandomota and your suggestions from other threads maybe I am not exactly looking for the strongest but probably the ones that are going to improve my life for the better.

These are the ones I am now looking at Bangi Haze, Thi Chi and purple haze x malawi.

Mainly looking for a motivating strain that also doesn't really have a cieling and low THC build up, is there anything else you could suggest? it's quite difficult to get your seeds here in south africa so when ordering I need to be sure.

Many thanks Craig

 

[gladysvjubb]

Man that Zamal actually looks amazing, I have a friend that's sending me some of his malawi seeds and super silver haze seeds now so thats a start for next seasons outdoor grow, but want to take full advantage of our south african free sunshine so I'm going to convert our outside room into a dark room so I can grow some in pots and try to get them to flower a bit early by moving them in and out. but I think the reality of doing that for 4 months might not actually work out

Zamaldelica and Malawi grow quite tall. I would not move them . I have a 10 foot ceiling and I had to "crimp" them to keep them down and manageable. I have them in 16" self watering pots. I use Fox Farms Ocean Forest. What a wonderful mix. 1 Zami looks like it will yield about half a pound dry. They really pack on the weight in those massive buds. I like it. The first time I smoked it I got a psychedelic experience. Not so much anymore but it still gets me high. I just dropped some Tommy Chong's L.A. Amnesia. I grew it before and enjoyed the hell out of it. I am going to make it a staple. I have PTSD and let me tell you, LA Amnesia really, really helped me out.

 

[dubi]

Thanks everyone I always feel completely overwhelmed by the warm and enthusiastic response of so many kind and great growers when a new one asks for recommendations or for specific types of effects from our genetics, you are the best!

Evil 1, thanks for taking the time to gather more info and experiences from other growers so you can learn better what is more appropriate for what you are seeking for.

Most of the times tolerance build up is strongly related to strains with heavy Afghani content and when smoking too much of the same batch or from highly related strains, which unfortunately is quite common in today's commercial genepool, previously it was Skunk, now is all about Kush and Cookies strains, hopefully it is still a bit different in South Africa and the genepool there still contains interesting landrace sativa genetics and effects. So, to avoid tolerance build up it's important to choose sativa strains of very low CBD content, and to have a very varied menu to choose from.

This said, the more extreme tropical sativas of super clean uplifting effects without ceiling or dirty down (like Oldtimer's Haze, pure Ethiopian, pure Honduras, or the more tropical Zamaldelica expressiones from regular release) will certainly cut through the foggy hybrid indica effects and will allow you to go higher and higher. These type of effects are very desirable to start the day with energy and motivation but they can lack of balance and bliss and could be not very appropriate for the second half of the day if you only have these types of sativas to smoke.

On ther other hand, overpowering, trippy, very complex, long lasting and profound sativas like Malawi and its heavier hybrids like Golden Tiger, Malawi x Panama fem, Zamaldelica fem, Killer A5 Haze, ... or heavier Panama red phenos will surely get you incredibly high every time you smoke them, but they are too strong for constant daily use, you can easily lose your psyche in mid-long term.

I'm probably starting to get old, and regarding THC rich strains i prefer nowadays high quality and super well focused balanced sativa effects that enhance my feelings and psyche, without darkness or aggressiveness, not necessarily the most potent, but prime quality and with the 'bliss' element. Thai Chi is a favorite of mine in that sense, the best Bangi Haze x Ethiopian expressions too, but every person is different and you may appreciate others more.

The descriptions of the effects of our strains are written mostly by me, but many growers seem to agree with them when they experience them, so i would highly recommend you to read in detail the descriptions of the effects on our website and also the smoke reports from other growers here in our room in the threads dedicated to each strain to help you decide. There are other threads down here in the non stick area with very similar topics to yours that can be relevant for your quest.

Not sure if my reply really helps, but at least i tried

Hey Dubi, I've had a chance to do some additional reading and going on rolandomota and your suggestions from other threads maybe I am not exactly looking for the strongest but probably the ones that are going to improve my life for the better.

These are the ones I am now looking at Bangi Haze, Thi Chi and purple haze x malawi.

Mainly looking for a motivating strain that also doesn't really have a cieling and low THC build up, is there anything else you could suggest? it's quite difficult to get your seeds here in south africa so when ordering I need to be sure.

Many thanks Craig

 

[Evil 1]

Thanks everyone I always feel completely overwhelmed by the warm and enthusiastic response of so many kind and great growers when a new one asks for recommendations or for specific types of effects from our genetics, you are the best!

Not sure if my reply really helps, but at least i tried

Hey Dubi, the guys on icmag have always been awesome and thank you for the detailed reply.

Unfortunately the same has happened here in south Africa and landrace strains are getting crossbred with the varieties that are being imported, so they are becoming harder to find. With the relaxation of cannabis laws here a very large market has opened up for seeds and CBD products and most of the growers here in south africa are also focusing mainly on those kush and cookie lines which I find a bit sad, but yes the issue stems from exactly that with the related genetic lines and higher CBD strains.

I used to do commercial growing about 10 years back and even I did the same thing as the new growers are doing now and I focussed mainly on the grapefruit and c99 varieties as they where also the most current and popular back then, but they were much better for extended usage that the newer strains in my opinion.

Thank you very much for your suggestions, I am really liking the description for the bangi haze X Ethiopian, it reminds me of what I remember from Lesotho strains but better.

So the strains I will be doing first is the Thai Chi, Bangi Haze x Ethiopian and the purple haze x Malawi but I would like to ask you for just one other suggestion and that would be for an end of day smoke, something that doesn't make you just want to fall asleep but relaxes you with a tropical type high, kinda like what mauwi should do. blissful, uplifting and positive.

Again many thanks for the reply, it was very helpful.

 

[Evil 1]

this is from a different website but words it better than I can

The Hawaiian strain is a slightly sativa-dominant hybrid that will give you a happy, vacation-like feeling. This is the perfect strain for a relaxing day, as it gets you creative but not too focused.
The high you will get from the Hawaiian strain is mostly cerebral and will typically leave you feeling incredibly happy. You could feel euphoric and uplifted after an exhausting day by smoking the Hawaiian strain. However, the high will keep your head clear and therefore help you to focus on the task at hand. The primary reason why people smoke this strain is for stress relief.

 

[dubi]

Hi Evil 1,

As third recommendation for being relaxed, yet blissful, functional and positive i would recommend Bubba Kush x Nepal Jam, Honduras Breeze, Kali China, Nepal Jam, Nepal Jam x Kali China, Orient Express and Zamaldelica x Nepal Jam.

You will interesting comments and recommendations regarding similar topic in this recent thread too:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=373689&page=2

Hope it helps.

 

[Evil 1]

Thanks Dubi. you are the best

 

[rolandomota]

Your experience may vary due to tolerance how often you smoke has a lot to do with it. Not thc% or anything it's more with how often you smoke Ethiopian is not ceilingless for me but it does remind me of mexican a little bit I also like a skunk original haze with little thc but the effect I get Is familiar I like it it also reminds me of good Mexican. Strange but true I have a bunch if Malawi Panama and golden tiger hybrids going home made f2 and f1 among themselves I definitely enjoy them they just don't kick my ass like I want

 

[DamienThorn6]

 

[Evil 1]

Your experience may vary due to tolerance how often you smoke has a lot to do with it. Not thc% or anything it's more with how often you smoke Ethiopian is not ceilingless for me but it does remind me of mexican a little bit I also like a skunk original haze with little thc but the effect I get Is familiar I like it it also reminds me of good Mexican. Strange but true I have a bunch if Malawi Panama and golden tiger hybrids going home made f2 and f1 among themselves I definitely enjoy them they just don't kick my ass like I want

yeah I am hoping that with the stronger and longer lasting stuff it will start giving my body a bit more of a break, I made a batch of cannabutter during the whole lockdown here and I made the concentration too strong, which also added to the extra resistance I am going through. stopped eating the cookies and it seems to also be helping a bit each day.

What have you found to be in the top bracket strains wise, not necessarily from ace but just in general?

 

[troutman]

Skipping usage a few days to a week from time to time helps reset your tolerance a little.

 

[rolandomota]

Yea but skipping usage is the hard part very easy for some but very difficult for others I'm in the impossible category I can't quit if I have some only if I run out and that won't be happening any time soon I just don't have anything to do but smoke

 

[repuk]

I have huge tolerance... to set a reference, last summer I could smoke three 1+ gr Zamaldelica doobies in a row, and still be "operational". And she was potent, could attest that from other hardcore smokers.

I did a lot of "ramadans" (abstinence) in the past. Latest were one month, and month and a half, last year.

My conclusion when finally smoked was: "Why did you stop stupid?"

Letting aside the fact that she provides me mind and body wellness, and those periods were rougher on me, I didn't find tolerance was enhanced that much, at the fourth doobie I was close to my original tolerance.

What I've found helps, and helps a lot, is weight loss (thc is stored in lipid cells, so the more you have, the more that can be stored and be latter released in your bloodstream) and what works wonders: regular work outs.

Most of my memorable "trips" were after I had worked out that day. Guess as you increase your metabolism, you also increase the THC metabolites excretion.

Of course, having variety of not genetically related strains, and ciclyng the grows to avoid smoking for months out of one specific lineage (e.g. Malawi and malawi crosses) helps preventing tolerance build up too.

This was in fact one of the things that brought me to ACE: fully detailed, no BS lineage info, pleeeenty of genetics to chose, and well documented high effects, essential to pick and rotate properly.

 

[repuk]

Another strategy I'm after, is having CBD only (CBD #1) stash, and have it in rotation with other THC strains, to spare some THC intake.

 

[dubi]

Hi repuk,

Having CBD in the body blocks the psychoactivity of THC, like increasing the THC tolerance.

 

[Evil 1]

I have huge tolerance... to set a reference, last summer I could smoke three 1+ gr Zamaldelica doobies in a row, and still be "operational". And she was potent, could attest that from other hardcore smokers.

I did a lot of "ramadans" (abstinence) in the past. Latest were one month, and month and a half, last year.

My conclusion when finally smoked was: "Why did you stop stupid?"

Letting aside the fact that she provides me mind and body wellness, and those periods were rougher on me, I didn't find tolerance was enhanced that much, at the fourth doobie I was close to my original tolerance.

What I've found helps, and helps a lot, is weight loss (thc is stored in lipid cells, so the more you have, the more that can be stored and be latter released in your bloodstream) and what works wonders: regular work outs.

Most of my memorable "trips" were after I had worked out that day. Guess as you increase your metabolism, you also increase the THC metabolites excretion.

Of course, having variety of not genetically related strains, and ciclyng the grows to avoid smoking for months out of one specific lineage (e.g. Malawi and malawi crosses) helps preventing tolerance build up too.

This was in fact one of the things that brought me to ACE: fully detailed, no BS lineage info, pleeeenty of genetics to chose, and well documented high effects, essential to pick and rotate properly.

Thanks so much man and yeah I fully agree with the whole keeping active thing as even just the increased blood circulation makes a difference for me.

Looking really forward to this years grow, I intend on doing clones of all the plants, looking for phenos and doing some crosses.

Changed what I will be doing.
these are seeds I already had.
Strawberry Cough
Blue Haze
some malawi seeds from a friend who said it was the strongest stuff he smoked, he didn't like it because it was so strong..... so we will see

and these will be the new ones
Thai Chi
Purple Haze x Malawi
Fem Zamaldelica
and destroyer

I feel this gives me a good variety of genetics to experience

 

[rolandomota]

I forgot to mention skunk x original haze is my favorite one I like the effect it looks like crap but the effect is nice the smoke smell is heavenly no typical weed smell so that's why I went with Honduras haze this time its my kind of smoke .

If your heart rate is higher than normal from exercise then your lungs absorb more oxygen and anything that might be in your lungs is absorbed more effectively combine that with smoking hash and yea you get ripped
The most time I quit was for a month the stuff I had was weak then it turned to gold and back to weak within one week of smoking all day every day
I always tell newbs to get as high as possible asap because later it won't affect you as much you'll miss being super high it will be impossible to reach them heights once your thc pickled