Thai weed from Thailand

[@hempy]

I fully agree (take a screenshot) lol.

It's like I said in a previse post Wally once the imports stopped in the 80s the Thais lost a huge market so most then sought out other crops to grow to feed their families.

Sure, some still grew a little to supply domestic needs, but once it got too risky brokers had farmers grow it in Laos or Cambodia.

You still had some grow it for personal, but now the scale of domestic growing got smaller again.

The reality with a quality product like the Thai is there is a huge market for it but a lot of it will be for export the old Thai weed or any old Sativa quality line now has to be seen as a cottage industry like say Cuban cigars as an example.

They would need firstly grow and produce the quality they once did, brand it and offer tourists a quality product alongside all the rest.

Like a single malt whisky in a bar surrounded by other blended Whiskies not every one is going to drink the single malt but those that do understand it will cost more and know why.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Thats good to hear ,
from what i was seeing , we were all kinda agreeing on most major points,
i just kinda felt there was still a little friction , though its not needed ,
since i think we are all chasing , or wanting to see the same thing ..
we can only hope there is some rekindling of the old stock due to demand from the customers ,
i think ive seen the like for sativa types grow over the years really in the time many of us have been on the forums ,
sometimes getting them to try hybrids containing those sativas is the starting point...

Presentation is also another thing that needs to be taken into account , improving the presentation ,
like using a machine such as those smaller cigarette rolling machines , but larger,
and making a nice round stick on a bamboo sliver , it may be more attractive for the newer crew and entice them to buy them .
Takes away that brick look , or some twigging or spindly looking flowers in a bag ...
A more uniform version of the old thai stick is what im trying to paint a picture of ..

 

[Elmer Bud]

It looks like sakon Phanom and Nakhon Phanom are going to be doused in dutch if not already.
Better to look up in Bueng Kan.

Finding proper tribal stuff might be a bit difficult? I have only visited a few tribal sorta villages like mon, hmong, karen. I don't have much knowledge about tribes really.

Went to a Karaoke bar with some of these girls .

 

[sativanese]

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Went to a Karaoke bar with some of these girls .

HA! that's awesome, i remember seeing them as a kid.
Does the long neck do anything for the singing? =)

 

[Elmer Bud]

People have been looking for the old Thai and other old sativas for years on the forums, a bit of reality check is needed on that one if people think they are easily found still.

How many of these people actually went to Thailand . Not many , if any .
You insist on talking about things you have no 1st hand knowledge of .
And in classic Hempy style every thing is set in stone . No possibility of it being different to the way you see things . That`s one reason why you get into so many conflicts . And then say everyone is picking on you .

 

[Elmer Bud]

It takes a dedicated grower that loves both the plant, and the effect it gives to preserve it and still have it around 40 or 50 years later.

How many people that do want to smoke the old school Thai are willing to put in the work of growing these long flowering plants out, do you think ?

lots .
Up country in Thailand that`s what they have been doing for a thousand or more years .

If you are related to the village head man ,related to a cop or have the protection of a senior army officer anything is possible in Thailand . Yes the cops bust people . But not their own family or those that pay a monthly fee to be left alone .
I met a guy who sold cocaine at his bar in a tourist hot spot . He payed a monthly fee for protection . He even had a police badge on the bumper of his car as a sign he was protected .

 

[BC LONE WOLF]

After reading all of the above, it seems like no one understands that only we are interested in those ancient sativas.

Not even the new generations want them, not because they don't know them;
I'm sure because they'd be afraid of facing a journey that could even generate profound catharsis.

The marijuana Strains that I see popular today is linked to the current social moment.

As Funky rightly said, those who control us like cattle don't want powerful sativas around that could spark a revolution.

I see it the same way hermano, most people around my area here, have never smoked a pure sativa or tropical or equatorial long flowering variety. The term Sativa is a misrepresentation of the lines we love and smoke.
I’ve been chasing the high ever since the first time I had a small taste of what a “like acid” experience felt like after smoking herb.
It’s a trip, like DMT or micro dosing acid, I have only felt this a few times after smoking herb.
I will never find this uplifting high in today’s Canadian market only the strong narcotic numbness is available. It’s garbage.

I love the high so I will grow it and spread it. But when people smoke these varieties the naive first time smoker will feel a shock sometimes having so called “bad trips” and then stigmatized the high… the bad trips are people not wanting to do the work on them selves, never elevating the soul, just users, no time travel, no introspection. Smoking real sativa herb is a powerful remedy against the social illnesses of today.

 

[Elmer Bud]

I see it the same way hermano, most people around my area here, have never smoked a pure sativa or tropical or equatorial long flowering variety. The term Sativa is a misrepresentation of the lines we love and smoke.
I’ve been chasing the high ever since the first time I had a small taste of what a “like acid” experience felt like after smoking herb.
It’s a trip, like DMT or micro dosing acid, I have only felt this a few times after smoking herb.
I will never find this uplifting high in today’s Canadian market only the strong narcotic numbness is available. It’s garbage.

I love the high so I will grow it and spread it. But when people smoke these varieties the naive first time smoker will feel a shock sometimes having so called “bad trips” and then stigmatized the high… the bad trips are people not wanting to do the work on them selves, never elevating the soul, just users, no time travel, no introspection. Smoking real sativa herb is a powerful remedy against the social illnesses of today.

Not all Sativa is uplifting .
I had plenty of experiences of white ing out as a youngster . Over whelmed by the power of the weed . My 1st exp with the golden brown weed I vomited for hours .

 

[BC LONE WOLF]

Not all Sativa is uplifting .
I had plenty of experiences of white ing out as a youngster . Over whelmed by the power of the weed . My 1st exp with the golden brown weed I vomited for hours .

I’ve had experience of overwhelming energy, the need to sit or lay down, increase sensitivity to light, caleidoscopio effect, sacred geometry, racing heart rate, sweating, claustrophobic sensations, acute hearing, euphoria, dopamine discharge, adrenaline rush, third eye vision…. All that is what I call a trip, from smoking weed.

It can be a shit show for some people.

 

[BC LONE WOLF]

For some reason to some herb is supposed to relax the muscle and couch lock you into eating all your fridge… a good smoke is a channel up, for the people with the right headspace it can level you up to your astral self.

 

[Elmer Bud]

I have grown a Thai x Tom Hill Haze by Mad Mac the last few years . I really enjoyed the vibes .

I like Sativas for getting stuff done around the house .
Playing touch football and mountain biking . After those activities are over I don`t mind some OG or Cookies or even maybe some hash made from hybrid strains .
I find if I smoke sativas and sit around I miss the relaxed feeling hybrids can give . I miss that body effect compared to the cerebral energy of the sativa .

 

[@hempy]

What did I post that was not factual ask Funky and read back through this thread, there are plenty of people looking for the old Thai and most are on the ground in Thailand and they're not finding it or even a half decent smoke for that matter.

Many have tried networking online to find Thai genetics too, and many have ordered Thai seed online over the years also.

Not sure what you're on about, to be honest.

 

[@hempy]

A good old School Thai will humble you, nothing relaxing or social about a strong Thai or a Strong Haze for that matter.

The one thing that has had me confused over the years is how the people growing Haze have never spoken about how you can find both the Thai and Colombian type highs with in Haze because I know I have.

Only thing I can think of is they clearly haven't smoked the old Thais and Colombians to know their effects.

 

[willydread]

Not all Sativa is uplifting .
I had plenty of experiences of white ing out

I had one yesterday afternoon...at work LOL....with NevHzOaxJam...I spent a busy quarter of an hour....


A friend many years ago was in a village where those women live, they cultivated hemp and used it for everything (smoking, cooking, medicine, fiber)...

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

For some reason to some herb is supposed to relax the muscle and couch lock you into eating all your fridge… a good smoke is a channel up, for the people with the right headspace it can level you up to your astral self.

Ya - cannabis users like to try and engineer their highs - but it's so variable from one entity to another - different metabolism's - different mental and physical health - mood swings - nutrition - sleep - you name it - so in conclusion - I'd say it's difficult to come to any firm opinions -
- but generally tropical sativas will give you more of an 'Up' and 'Energetic' high - compared to high mountain Indicas - which seem to slow the world down - whilst boosting the appetite -

 

[Osama Bong Loadin']

Take two IBLs and cross them and get an F1 .
Basic breeding theory .

That's not what I was saying. I made my first true f1 hybrid in 2003.

 

[Osama Bong Loadin']

I'm curious what people here think of Chocolope? I found some excellent sativa highs working with it.

 

[*GROWHIGH*]

A good old School Thai will humble you, nothing relaxing or social about a strong Thai or a Strong Haze for that matter.

The one thing that has had me confused over the years is how the people growing Haze have never spoken about how you can find both the Thai and Colombian type highs with in Haze because I know I have.

Only thing I can think of is they clearly haven't smoked the old Thais and Colombians to know their effects.

you have the power to educate them hempy ..... not only with your wisdom......but more importantly ..with your pure old school Thai seeds.........''hempy ..the legend who brought the good Thai back''..... sure has a nice ring to it

 

[Osama Bong Loadin']

I see it the same way hermano, most people around my area here, have never smoked a pure sativa or tropical or equatorial long flowering variety. The term Sativa is a misrepresentation of the lines we love and smoke.
I’ve been chasing the high ever since the first time I had a small taste of what a “like acid” experience felt like after smoking herb.
It’s a trip, like DMT or micro dosing acid, I have only felt this a few times after smoking herb.
I will never find this uplifting high in today’s Canadian market only the strong narcotic numbness is available. It’s garbage.

I love the high so I will grow it and spread it. But when people smoke these varieties the naive first time smoker will feel a shock sometimes having so called “bad trips” and then stigmatized the high… the bad trips are people not wanting to do the work on them selves, never elevating the soul, just users, no time travel, no introspection. Smoking real sativa herb is a powerful remedy against the social illnesses of today.

Wow. That really is introspective and I agree. When I grew sativas the noobs here hated on me like I was growing commercial bagseed.
I'm growing sativa now. A tame hybrid that I can do indoors. Good though.

 

[Osama Bong Loadin']

There's a good bit of Thai happening here. This one had a great everyday up high with no angst just pure satisfaction.