Thai Chi

[StrongTree]

Thai Chi almost 30 days flower

 

[LHC]

thanks for the reminder @LHC first make sure ph is correct. If ph is correct and ec is not higher than 1.6 and still yellowing then it's lack of nutrients.

Hi @dubi
At your advice, I got myself an EC meter
If you have the chance, would you comment on what EC range you consider good for a moderate feeder as Thai Chi?

 

[dubi]

Hi @dubi
At your advice, I got myself an EC meter
If you have the chance, would you comment on what EC range you consider good for a moderate feeder as Thai Chi?

for soil around 0.8-1.2 ec during growth stage, 1,2-1,6 for flowering stage, depending on pheno and how hot your soil mix is.

 

[dubi]

@dubi , I was wondering something... I initially got interested in the Thai Chi because I heard you say on Heavy Dayze's Pot Cast that it had to be "the hybrid you were most proud of".

That podcast was 3 years ago, and you seem to have done a lot of fresh work since then. Would you still answer Thai Chi if you were asked the same question today?

Another thing I was wondering: I feel a lot of your stuff has a calm, contemplative, introspective effect, that I'm not very used to finding in other strains, especially sativas (and which I like a lot, by the way).
Is that something you are actively selecting for (like your personal taste, maybe?), or is it just pure casuality, because of the particular strains I chose to grow? (Nepal Jam, Orient Express, Kali China, Zamal'china, Thai Chi, Malawi x Panama).
And in that case, what would be the most opposite to Thai Chi in effects?

That's a good question @albertgriffiths there are certainly other ACE sativa strains more potent, better looking, better yielding than Thai Chi, but Thai Chi has certain quality to its effects and an incensey terpene profile i cherish a lot. For commercial production i would choose other ACE sativas such as Panama x Bangi Haze, but for private stash Thai Chi is still up there with my 3 favorites. Another new favorite of mine is Zenith, there are truly unique Zenith expressions (in the longer flowering phenos) that are also among my all time favorites.

Regarding your second question about strong introspection in ACE strains, i like cannabis that produces strong inner world, i don't like smokes that doesn't have effect in my inner world and doesn't enhance perception (pretty much like today's Kushes, effects say very little).

Although the strains you mention have very different kind of introspection: kind, clear, balanced introspection like Thai Chi, Kali China, Nepal Jam or Orient Express from one side, and on the other the crazier dirtier introspection in Malawi and Panama hybrids.

If Thai Chi is clear, balanced meditation, Golden Tiger Thai leaning phenos are completly crazy, trippy, accelerated, imaginative, dissociative, a very altered state tha is quite the opposite to a true meditative state, despite both Thai Chi and Golden Tiger contain Thai genetics, they have been bred for completely different goals-outcome.

 

[dubi]

Thai Chi almost 30 days flower View attachment 18918949 View attachment 18918950

Great to see you posting back here @StrongTree we miss you!
Is she a new girl from seed or previous one from clone ?

 

[LHC]

for soil around 0.8-1.2 ec during growth stage, 1,2-1,6 for flowering stage, depending on pheno and how hot your soil mix is.

Thank´s a lot @dubi

 

[Mitsuharu]

I wonder why there is no Thai Chi in ACEs Online-Shop!? Not even 'out of stock' or 'discontinued'... like it has never existed. ^^

 

[goingrey]

I wonder why there is no Thai Chi in ACEs Online-Shop!? Not even 'out of stock' or 'discontinued'... like it has never existed. ^^

Thai Chi. Feminized seeds. ACE Seeds

Thai Chi feminized. Thai x Kali China. Thai hybrid. Super sativa. Thai feminized seeds. Thai Stick. Thai Chiang Mai. Thai sativa. Thai landrace seeds. SE Asian sativa. China Yunnan indica. Old Kali Mist. China indica. China cannabis seeds. Best sativas

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If you need the info..

Cannapot Onlineshop SLU - Thai Chi

Thai Chi is a great cross of the Thai Chiang Mai and Ace Seeds strain called Kali China – you will get fantastic flavours: sour grapes and astringent bitter lemon in the foreground, then earthy with spicy notes of onion or garlic, cured wood, incense, chocolate, green tea, mint and lime of...

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If you need the seed..

 

[StrongTree]

Great to see you posting back here @StrongTree we miss you!
Is she a new girl from seed or previous one from clone ?

Hey Dubi ..... as always glad to see you here as well.........
yes that is a new Thai Chi girl from seed .... the pack was obtained from recent re-stock at the distributor....
also in my veg pipeline right now :
2 nep jams
2 PCK x KC
2 Zam x Pan aka Zenith

i will probably dig into the Kali China breeders pack soon again

also got some Nepal Mist here that i'd like to look through soon

 

[albertgriffiths]

That's a good question @albertgriffiths there are certainly other ACE sativa strains more potent, better looking, better yielding than Thai Chi, but Thai Chi has certain quality to its effects and an incensey terpene profile i cherish a lot. For commercial production i would choose other ACE sativas such as Panama x Bangi Haze, but for private stash Thai Chi is still up there with my 3 favorites. Another new favorite of mine is Zenith, there are truly unique Zenith expressions (in the longer flowering phenos) that are also among my all time favorites.

Regarding your second question about strong introspection in ACE strains, i like cannabis that produces strong inner world, i don't like smokes that doesn't have effect in my inner world and doesn't enhance perception (pretty much like today's Kushes, effects say very little).

Although the strains you mention have very different kind of introspection: kind, clear, balanced introspection like Thai Chi, Kali China, Nepal Jam or Orient Express from one side, and on the other the crazier dirtier introspection in Malawi and Panama hybrids.

If Thai Chi is clear, balanced meditation, Golden Tiger Thai leaning phenos are completly crazy, trippy, accelerated, imaginative, dissociative, a very altered state tha is quite the opposite to a true meditative state, despite both Thai Chi and Golden Tiger contain Thai genetics, they have been bred for completely different goals-outcome.

Wow thank you, that was a very complete answer!

I like the precision you have when describing tastes and effects (one of ace's catalogues great appeals imo), and I do concur on the inner world/enhanced perception bit. I've had indicas that were worse than boring, where the absence of paranoïa was sadly compensated by a dark feeling of "sad tiredness"...

Zenith was already on top of my list, and now I'm curious for that Thai-leaning Golden Tiger!

 

[Consolidated]

I wonder why there is no Thai Chi in ACEs Online-Shop!? Not even 'out of stock' or 'discontinued'... like it has never existed. ^^

As well as the Zenith.
I wanted to take advantage of the discount... but it's nowhere to be found.

 

[dubi]

I wonder why there is no Thai Chi in ACEs Online-Shop!? Not even 'out of stock' or 'discontinued'... like it has never existed. ^^

We have just removed during our Black Friday fem promo the feminized strains out of stock such as Thai Chi and Zenith.

 

[Mitsuharu]

Ah ok. So now i see that Thai Chi is not available in regular Seed Form what is kind of sad. To be honest i don't want to be dependent on feminized seeds every time when i like a strain. I understand that everyone wants to sell automatics but others like normal strains are available as regulars too, like Panama for example but why isn't Thai Chi? Any plans?

Thanks.

 

[ilovegrowing]

hello @Mitsuharu,

please correct me if im wrong @dubi

i think the main reason for this is that the one parent kali china has been bred only in feminized format and is only able to produce feminized seeds when outcrossed, as there are no 'male' chromosomes.

one could try it the other way around and pollinate a favourite kali china plant with a favourite thai chiang mai male plant. and maybe even backcross males of that progeny to kali china again. but in the end the result would probably be different to the current thai chi release.

or you try to self a thai chi plant yourself to produce your own thai chi seeds.

personally im pretty happy that ace is selling standard seeds of so many of their lines. there a a lot of seed producers who stopped doing that, probably for monetary reasons.

i hope i could help you! greets

 

[Mitsuharu]

Oh i didn't know that. Thank you for clarifying this, i'm not so familiar with breeding.

 

[sgka]

That's absolutely correct @Stoneroller . A RO filter or mixing with deionized water may be the only feasible way if the carbonates are to high. Sure, you can always add more acid to destroy all the buffering capacity, but then either EC might be too high or too much citrate or acetate or whatever anion comes with the acid you are using.
I am currently figuring out how much vinegar I would need, but now my pH meter died and I have a new one ordered.
Unfortunately I have neither enough water pressure nor space for a RO unit (would need one with a booster pump).

I would be using homemade ph down instead of vinegar. You can buy phosphoric acid online, mix 100mL in 900mL in water (mix acid into water, not water into acid). My ph is also 7.8-8.2, I just use the homemade mix and it keeps it down for weeks on end. I use a 60gal reservoir and ph balance it right then and there. Even after 2 weeks it's still within 0.1.

1L of the phosphoric has lasted me maybe a year so far and I'm maybe halfway done with it. Only need a few tbsp to get the 60 gal where it needs to be

 

[Common Sense]

I would be using homemade ph down instead of vinegar. You can buy phosphoric acid online, mix 100mL in 900mL in water (mix acid into water, not water into acid). My ph is also 7.8-8.2, I just use the homemade mix and it keeps it down for weeks on end. I use a 60gal reservoir and ph balance it right then and there. Even after 2 weeks it's still within 0.1.

1L of the phosphoric has lasted me maybe a year so far and I'm maybe halfway done with it. Only need a few tbsp to get the 60 gal where it needs to be

thank you so much @sgka for the detailed information! Phosphoric acid has the advantage of buffering the pH pretty well plus you're already adding some phosphate fertilizer (have to take that into consideration).
By now, I have my new pH meter and found out I only need 5 mL/L of vinegar after adding the BioBizz fertilizer to have the pH stable at around 6.2, so I guess that would work, or do you see downsides in using vinegar in general?

 

[Chi13]

Is Thai Chi going to be restocked? I can't even find it on the site at present?

 

[Ras Kali Rasta]

Is Thai Chi going to be restocked? I can't even find it on the site at present?

I PM'd dubi about it recently. It will definitely be back, but he couldn't give a firm date.

 

[Funkalicious]

Hello folks

One week ago I harvested the guerilla Thai Chi!

They had been under 4 weeks of nonstop rain and cold cloudy weather. And guess what? We found them in good shape!! 95% of the plants were totally fine!

The faster pheno was looking quite tired, but the slower pheno was full of life and 99% disease free. That's a fantastic result considering how bad the conditions were for the last 4 weeks of Flowering. At least.. To us that's a solid genetic.

The flowers were not that big but that's to be expected with how few light hours they receive by end season.

They smell amazing, and the sample I smoked felt great. Uplifting anf creative high, I just started taking notes, wanting to dance around and get busy with things. I'm going to enjoy this haul.

Thanks Dubi and ACE for this strain.