It is in some of the lines. But it isn't the most interesting one, I prefer the eucalyptus-anise ones. Anyway, these aromas are subtle, and the drying/curing method can have negative effects on them.
Taskenti
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The way that i figured, the percentage of Uzbek is over 97percent. Is that how you figure, Carraxe?
Wuachuma
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I wouldn't say that description is worthy of a "no it isn't" and without listing a correction. Thanks for the help
I don't think that these percentages are really significant, or have a real scientific value, being the specimen selection the most important influence while breeding. For example, if you mix a pure indica and a pure sativa you get F1 plants that are 50/50 sativa/indica in genes. And then, for the next breeding step, you select the F1 specimens from that batch with the most indica features. The question is: would you still say your F2 plants are 50% sativa?
I believe they just stated that number because they think their plants represent in a 97% what their idea of a Uzbek plant should be.
I also don't have experience enough with the original landraces to make any kind of statement. But I've grown a lot of NLs along the years and I find the Taskentis to be very different.
Hope it helps. Sweet smokes
That is why i will say that the 'pedigree' is whatever percent. Then go on to say if the 'strain' has been selected toward one way or another. At least that gives some idea of what 'could' pop up in future generations. If a person has worked a line as much as you have with the Taskenti, that person might have a good working knowledge of how many 'unusual' phenos could show up in a certain generation, and be pretty certain that at a certain point, the unusuals would or would not show up.
If i have the 2005 Taskenti and work that, i wonder how closely our two lines would be to each other?
If i have the 2005 Taskenti and work that, i wonder how closely our two lines would be to each other?
I haven't worked with other species to compare, but cannabis is very versatile. If we selected separately for aroma and taste, I believe that after some generations, maybe just 3 or 4, we would end with plants with very different aromas. Although the terpenes produced would be basically the same in both lines, their proportions would vary consistently.
Enjoy that variation. That's where the magic happens.
Hey man those San Pedro flowers look gorgeous. I also have a few of them.
I've repotted and put into flower this new selected cut. The general aspect of every one of the Taskentis I work with is lush and dark green.
In this last couple of years I've selected 4 different female cuts from 2 different Taskenti lines. I grew all of them several times, so I really know them. Now I've selected several good females and males from another line. I'm going to cross the 4 already selected females with a mix of pollen from all these males. I already know this line I got these last males from is the most homogeneous, so I hope that mixing this one with the most healthy specimens I've selected will provide a good and diverse offspring. I've got cuts of all of them, both males and females, just in case is there any problem with pollination.
Sweet smokes
In this last couple of years I've selected 4 different female cuts from 2 different Taskenti lines. I grew all of them several times, so I really know them. Now I've selected several good females and males from another line. I'm going to cross the 4 already selected females with a mix of pollen from all these males. I already know this line I got these last males from is the most homogeneous, so I hope that mixing this one with the most healthy specimens I've selected will provide a good and diverse offspring. I've got cuts of all of them, both males and females, just in case is there any problem with pollination.
Sweet smokes
I got some help from a fellow grower @Dentex. Thanks a lot, man!
These seeds will probably be a glimpse of the past, I suppose these plants will be similar to the original Uzbek strain originally used to develop the strain.
If the very worked Taskenti strain is harsh but very strong in the Indica side, I guess these plants will be real landrace hashplants: harsher, and probably not as strong and productive as Taskenti. But they will provide a taste of the features Kaiki tried to preserve into the strain he developed.
I'm specially interested in the aromas and effects they can carry. What will we get? I will grow these in some months, now I have a lot of work with the last specimens of Kaiki's Taskenti, but if these plants are good enough, they could contribute to widen the already very narrow Taskenti's gene pool.
From Humboltd web: (https://humboldtcsi.com/product/uzbekistani-ibl/)
"This pure Uzbekistani inbred line is a collaboration release with Cannabiogen that was facilitated by our good friend Bodhi. A portion of the proceeds from the sales of these seeds will go to Charlie Garcia & Cannabiogen.
These seeds were produced with an open pollination of roughly 150 plants to keep the integrity of the line intact for the next generation."
Let's see how much is this IBL inbred, and if it is a real breeding tool or not.
Sweet smokes
These seeds will probably be a glimpse of the past, I suppose these plants will be similar to the original Uzbek strain originally used to develop the strain.
If the very worked Taskenti strain is harsh but very strong in the Indica side, I guess these plants will be real landrace hashplants: harsher, and probably not as strong and productive as Taskenti. But they will provide a taste of the features Kaiki tried to preserve into the strain he developed.
I'm specially interested in the aromas and effects they can carry. What will we get? I will grow these in some months, now I have a lot of work with the last specimens of Kaiki's Taskenti, but if these plants are good enough, they could contribute to widen the already very narrow Taskenti's gene pool.
From Humboltd web: (https://humboldtcsi.com/product/uzbekistani-ibl/)
"This pure Uzbekistani inbred line is a collaboration release with Cannabiogen that was facilitated by our good friend Bodhi. A portion of the proceeds from the sales of these seeds will go to Charlie Garcia & Cannabiogen.
These seeds were produced with an open pollination of roughly 150 plants to keep the integrity of the line intact for the next generation."
Let's see how much is this IBL inbred, and if it is a real breeding tool or not.
Sweet smokes
Shoot me a pm if you want more of those, they are just sitting and looking for a home...
I'll grow the ones I've got in some months, but if I need more I'll think of you, thanks a lot. I have read that these are already quite inbred, something that makes sense since the original seeds went out of Uzbekistan more than 30 years ago.
Sweet smokes
yes, I couldn't find anything either. Just for some positive review in the Humboldtcsi webpage
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Good luck with the seeds, thanks for sharing with cannabis community your work with such amazing strains
If your thread was epic now is superepic and interesting
God bless all strain preservers
Thanks for your kind words. As I see it, my work with some strains is not so much a preservation, but a death delaying work. That's like that because, unfortunately, both Taskenti and Uzbekistani seed stocks are actually very endogamic. It means that, even when I'm selecting and crossing the most healthy individuals, genetic defects are adding up in every generation, and at some point seeds won't sprout, like it happened to CBG guys. That's why they discontinued it.
If these Uzbekistani seeds the Taskenti strain is based on came to Spain more than 30 years ago, and the original cross between NL and Uzbekistani was made just between a limited number of plants, around that time, then every generation of Taskentis was made narrowing even more the genepool for quite a lot of years.
The same for the pure Uzbekistani seeds, that were brought and incrossed again and again.
Anyway, I still have some healthy pure selected Taskenti specimens, and I'm making seeds that I believe will work. Also, I'm outcrossing these selected specimens to other plants with strong authentic Indica features, like Black Domina, PCK x Bubba Kush, Matanuska, and some Northern Light and Blueberry crosses. The idea is to try to capture some of the special essence of these Taskenti plants, in case the plants from the original strain disappear.
Sweet smokes
These are some plants from one of lines I like the most, made specifically with the pollen from the #5 male I found in the F2 2012 seeds. Plants are rough, columnar, stiff and hard. Short distance between knots, max 3 cm. This line is probably the one that matches the best equilibrium between old school Taskenti and the most vigorous plants. Aromas aren't as refined as in the most inbreed, but after a couple months curing they start to be suggestive, in the subtle eucalyptus menthol side. Harsh to smoke, strong effect.
Next months, I'll be selecting females from this line, and getting pollen out of the males.
Cheers
Next months, I'll be selecting females from this line, and getting pollen out of the males.
Cheers
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About a couple of months I found some Taskenti frozen pollen from before I started systematizing the labeling, so I have no idea which line it is from, nor how many males' pollen it's got, but it has to be old. Anyway, before it got lost, and having in account that the more males I use, the better, I pollinated my best Taskenti cut.
This cut is the best one because it's got the flavor and the devastating power of the last versions and at the same time it keeps the vitality of the first ones. It isn't the most productive one, but it stands as a reference.
After 10 weeks of 12/12, and after being pollinated 6 weeks ago, it looks like that. Old frozen pollen worked perfectly and the cut shows the wear of a long life under artificial lights, viruses, spider mites, organic treatments, and all that shit. So it doesn't look that good.
Sweet smokes
This cut is the best one because it's got the flavor and the devastating power of the last versions and at the same time it keeps the vitality of the first ones. It isn't the most productive one, but it stands as a reference.
After 10 weeks of 12/12, and after being pollinated 6 weeks ago, it looks like that. Old frozen pollen worked perfectly and the cut shows the wear of a long life under artificial lights, viruses, spider mites, organic treatments, and all that shit. So it doesn't look that good.
Sweet smokes
These plants come from a cross I made quite a lot of years ago, when I crossed a selected Sweet Afghani Delicious with a Taskenti male. SAD is a Black Domina's S1, so it is a specific selection of its characteristics. BD is a polyhybrid that develops a very very variated offspring, with many different bud structures and aromas, but always provides hard, squat resinous and aromatic plants.
So I grew these just for fun and curiosity. Look at the very short internodes, and the wide hashplant leaves.
Sweet smokes
So I grew these just for fun and curiosity. Look at the very short internodes, and the wide hashplant leaves.
Sweet smokes
