taking for ever to form buds!!!

[burninheavy420]

My baby shooted out pistils what feels like over a month and a half ago and still no buds!! Just last week I started to see the trichs forming but i can still see no formation of buds! My schedule is ****ed up cuz i start 12/12 from seed but things have taken longer than expected cuz of the cfls i use and light leakage..My baby keeps growing and i figured the stretch would stop by now..If my girl isnt gettin enough light would this cause the buds not to form? If the lights were powerful enough to get the hairs growing and trichs forming then i should be alright, right?

 

[Soft Smoke]

if you have light leaks, then that may be your biggest problem. Let's assume that everything being equal, your grow would do just fine...good medium, good temps, good light...etc. when you switch to 12/12 you are signaling to your baby that its time to put away the toys and reproduce. So she gets all sexy and starts puting out her pistils, and then WHAM. She starts getting mixed signals. Is it time to reproduce or time to grow more? Those lightleaks can be a major source of confuion to your girl. She doesn't know what to to...veg or flower.

My advice if you have the time and cabinet height to play with is to go back to 18/6 light and reveg for up to 10 days fix all your light leak issues and restart flowering at that point. You will "reset" your girl's genetic calendar and be good to go. You may also find that you have a much bigge yield than normal..but dont get all excited...you got it from the extra veg time.

you may also want to double check temps and air flow to ensure your girl is not getting cooked or starved for co2.

Dont feel bad...this is easily fixable and it happens to may cab growers the first time.

SS

 

[Rollin Face]

when u guys refer to light leaks, does that mean in their dark hours, as in dont let them see light during that period. But during light hours can they have the door open for example or is that a bad thing?

 

[-StashBastard-]

when u guys refer to light leaks, does that mean in their dark hours, as in dont let them see light during that period. But during light hours can they have the door open for example or is that a bad thing?

Its the dark hours that you need to be concerned with. You don't want any light leaks during its 12 hours of darkness.

 

[chubbynugs]

Light leaks are no bueno in any grow room in the dark period. Nut sack city in your garden if the leak is bad enough.

 

[burninheavy420]

I don't have light leaks during their 12 hours of darkness. Im talkin about light leaks in my setup..My lights have to be positioned a certain way and i can't think of any way to get the mylar all the way around. Its in a closet, wish i had a nice cabinet setup.. I added like 84 more watts today so that should help a lil bit.

 

[chubbynugs]

If you dont have a light leaking into your closet when it is dark then you shouldnt have light coming out of it when lights are on.

 

[segue]

Ed Rosenthal in one of his books explained how flowering is forced by lighting (paraphrased, because I don't feel like digging through the book at the moment):

Flowering is caused by a certain chemical/hormone produced by the plant. This hormone is produced during hours of darkness, and is destroyed by light.

When 12/12 is introduced, the extended period of darkness allows the hormone level to reach a tipping point and causes the plant to flower, because there isn't enough light per day to lower the hormone level to non-flowering levels.

That's why you need absolute darkness for the "night" cycle.

(If anyone wants to correct my lack of terminology or clarify, go ahead... But I think that's a good quick explanation.)

 

[Guest]

Exactly how old are the plants? Maybe you shouldn't be worrying just yet?

I doubt light leaks are your problem. Many strains tolerate minor light leaks better than most think IMO. My grow area before I bought a hydrohut wasn't perfectly light tight. Some of the more complex sativa hybrids may be more sensitive. But I doubt that's what your growing. I have some very minor leaks in my hydrohut(easily fixed with velchro but i'm lazy). My haze plannts and sativas did fine...or are doing fine. Nights are not totally dark in nature. You should do your best to minimize any light leak, but don't freak out about it.

Some strains won't make "buds" until well into flowering. My haze hybrids aren't forming buds yet. One is 5 weeks+ in and the other 4 weeks+ If you are feeding them right and have no major light leaks, give them a couple more weeks.

MT

This Skunk Haze is 28 days into flower. No "buds". It is 35 days now and still looks much the same. MANY budding sites that still look like the 2nd picture but more mature.




SuperSilver Haze on Day 23 flower. Buds will fill out later. Till then it looks like "Pistil City"

 

[burninheavy420]

pistil city is what im lookin at...hopefully i am worrying too soon and they will fill out. I burned my baby earlier on but she is doin a little bit better now. My girl is 2.5 months old, tried 12/12 from seed but taking way longer than expected. Man i seen a hydrohut at my store and i wanted one so damn bad cuz it would fit my space perfectly! Need to save some $$$ for that tho..Thanks for the feedback yall

 

[Maj.PotHead]

That's why you need absolute darkness for the "night" cycle.


ok then explain city lights for outside growing in back yards and full moon nights these factors dont seem to bother the plants outside. i have light leaks small 1's and dont even worry about hermi's because of the small leaks i have i've never had a plant herm. now i've growen hermi seed that herm'd but thats all

 

[HappyHemphog]

ok then explain city lights for outside growing in back yards and full moon nights these factors dont seem to bother the plants outside.

Simple. They aren't bright enough to trigger the daylight hormone production. A full Moon doesn't last long enough.

Small light leaks, like low moonlight in nature, are not a problem. Short term bright light exposure like opening the door or taking a flash photo during the dark cycle is the equivalent of a night time lightning storm, again, not an issue.

It's long term exposure to a significant light source with the proper wavelengths that will screw you.

Cheers!
Hempy

 

[greendream69]

Simple. They aren't bright enough to trigger the daylight hormone production. A full Moon doesn't last long enough.

Small light leaks, like low moonlight in nature, are not a problem. Short term bright light exposure like opening the door or taking a flash photo during the dark cycle is the equivalent of a night time lightning storm, again, not an issue.

It's long term exposure to a significant light source with the proper wavelengths that will screw you.

Cheers!
Hempy

good explanation. that explains a lot

 

[burninheavy420]

So light leaks in my setup shouldn't cause any stress? Again light leaks in my setup, not leaks during the dark period.

 

[HappyHemphog]

So light leaks in my setup shouldn't cause any stress? Again light leaks in my setup, not leaks during the dark period.

The only "light leaks" that we growers speak of is light getting(leaking) into your garden during the dark period.

I've no idea what other "light leaks" your referring to.

 

[burninheavy420]

Alright that's good then..The light leaks im referring to are the ones coming from my closet setup. I have to open the door when the lights are on to get fresh air in there and in the mean time im letting light out of the closet..That's the leak im referring to...

 

[chubbynugs]

The leak you are referring to burning is not a light leak dude. It is just light that is not going to your plants. There is nothing negative from light if your lights are already on. Hope that makes sense.

 

[burninheavy420]

yeahhhhh