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T5 Club... Show Us Your Stuff...
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noyd666
zz another full grid by the looks of it, i use the same heater you have there, i covered that red light at top, mine glows in dark, also when dark can see a line of red glow coming off top of heater, does not appear to have made any diff anyway. nice job.
AK47 just over 7weeks in bloom w/T5s
AK47 just over 7weeks in bloom w/T5s
Noyd;
The 3 pics above are my AK47s, pics are done with flash and lights out. Sorry bout the poor definition. ZZ posted them for me.
Trikes are still clear, the one on the right is gaining weight quickly, and showing quite a few Reddish hairs. About a week or maybe 2 ahead of the one on the left, which has almost no dark hairs and hasn't started to gain weight yet.
I took the one pic with the light down at operating level, to show the folks just how close you can and probably should, run the t5s.
As to the Red light on the heater; the girls seem to think they are in the Red Light district and enjoying it? lol
I am; as always 2LC, and being the cheap SOB that I am,,, I only use T5s, and only grow for my personal use.
ZZ
AK47 just over 7weeks in bloom w/T5s
Noyd;
The 3 pics above are my AK47s, pics are done with flash and lights out. Sorry bout the poor definition. ZZ posted them for me.
Trikes are still clear, the one on the right is gaining weight quickly, and showing quite a few Reddish hairs. About a week or maybe 2 ahead of the one on the left, which has almost no dark hairs and hasn't started to gain weight yet.
I took the one pic with the light down at operating level, to show the folks just how close you can and probably should, run the t5s.
As to the Red light on the heater; the girls seem to think they are in the Red Light district and enjoying it? lol
I am; as always 2LC, and being the cheap SOB that I am,,, I only use T5s, and only grow for my personal use.
ZZ Having a great day. lol Yup, it's AK all right.
This was just frosty leaves, dried at 260*F in oven... lol..... I needed the heat anyway.
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noyd666
smokkkinn lol.
Hush;
I'd be interested in some pic of a vert. t5,,, you bet. How do you plan on hanging the lights? I've been toying with the idea of slanting two 2x4s on about a 5/12 pitch, maybe a bit steeper,,, to get a coverage vertically of about 12-14"s, and 4' long. Like someone once said Pot isn't addictive,,, Growing it is. haha On the other hand, I'm not sure it'd be much of a plus, and it is twice the Elec. ..... Hmmmm
5th;
My closest tips are less than an inch,,, no bleaching...Yeah! Filling out nicely, thank you. And my tubes, and fixture are new, so no lose of lumens from age. My tubes are half and half, cool and warm, alternating by Phillips. I do keep the light tilted a couple of inches and an oscillating fan going to keep the heat from building in/on the tubes, because the reflector is in no way vented to let the heat out. I've read opinions that even that much heat will shorten the life of the tubes. Rather than take a chance, I keep the air moving,,, for the plants if nothing else.
I'd be interested in some pic of a vert. t5,,, you bet. How do you plan on hanging the lights? I've been toying with the idea of slanting two 2x4s on about a 5/12 pitch, maybe a bit steeper,,, to get a coverage vertically of about 12-14"s, and 4' long. Like someone once said Pot isn't addictive,,, Growing it is. haha On the other hand, I'm not sure it'd be much of a plus, and it is twice the Elec. ..... Hmmmm
5th;
My closest tips are less than an inch,,, no bleaching...Yeah! Filling out nicely, thank you. And my tubes, and fixture are new, so no lose of lumens from age. My tubes are half and half, cool and warm, alternating by Phillips. I do keep the light tilted a couple of inches and an oscillating fan going to keep the heat from building in/on the tubes, because the reflector is in no way vented to let the heat out. I've read opinions that even that much heat will shorten the life of the tubes. Rather than take a chance, I keep the air moving,,, for the plants if nothing else.
Right On, it takes a Village...lol
Hush... Anything to do with T5's, PLL's and the such we would love to see as rules are more/less Guide Lines around here...
5th... No problem with bleaching but it will burn any leaf tips that touch the tubes, no big deal I just remove them later. I try to stay about 2" above the canopy and have a fan blowing across that 2" gap for circulation...
Hush... Anything to do with T5's, PLL's and the such we would love to see as rules are more/less Guide Lines around here...
5th... No problem with bleaching but it will burn any leaf tips that touch the tubes, no big deal I just remove them later. I try to stay about 2" above the canopy and have a fan blowing across that 2" gap for circulation...
We don't Make Mistakes, We just have Happy Accidents...lol
Built this extra cab for Males, Veg'n, Clones, Drying and the such, always need a place to stick an extra plant or two. So when I popped 5 - SS Bubblegum and got 2 females and 2 males so I thought. I throw the males into the cab right away and flipped them to 12/12 so I could collect the pollen by hand and then get rid of them before the others go into bloom...
Here they are basking in there Glory...
Did not pay them much attention till they started throwing pollen, it was then I noticed one was not throwing pollen and in fact was a female...lol So I left the two to mother nature and collected the pollen I needed, at 5 weeks I removed the male. So I was able to collect enough pollen to make 1000's of seeds, safe & sound in the freezer and have a sativa leaning SS Bubblegum Bitch that will throw 100's of seeds...
Built this extra cab for Males, Veg'n, Clones, Drying and the such, always need a place to stick an extra plant or two. So when I popped 5 - SS Bubblegum and got 2 females and 2 males so I thought. I throw the males into the cab right away and flipped them to 12/12 so I could collect the pollen by hand and then get rid of them before the others go into bloom...
Here they are basking in there Glory...
Did not pay them much attention till they started throwing pollen, it was then I noticed one was not throwing pollen and in fact was a female...lol So I left the two to mother nature and collected the pollen I needed, at 5 weeks I removed the male. So I was able to collect enough pollen to make 1000's of seeds, safe & sound in the freezer and have a sativa leaning SS Bubblegum Bitch that will throw 100's of seeds...
Well, my plan is actually to mount 54w strips (with reflectors) vertically along the corners of a tall skinny cabinet, and have one single sativa plant growing up in the middle of them all. It should get light all around it until (and if) it gets to the top of the cabinet, but I suppose I could put a CFL up top as well. I just think that when a plant is completely surrounded by light like this, it grows into a better shape, more like what it's genetics programmed it to do. I don't know if that makes sense. But it's why I like outdoor plants so much, although, IMO, indoor plants are always more primo (no dust, pests, harsh elements that "rough up" the plants a bit).
So I want to surround a plant in light. But I don't think LEDs are there yet (plus they are way too pricey), and HIDs simply cannot achieve this unless you have a large room with multiple suspended bare bulbs. So fluorescents become the obvious choice.
See, that's the thing... I am of the school of thought that fluorescents have so much more potential than to be the lights people use when they want to conserve electricity. I actually think that's backwards, anyway... if I wanted to conserve electricity I would use a 150w HPS or something like that, because they are tried and true, and can arguably out-yield 150w worth of fluorescents.
I actually think that the ultimate grow chamber would be using PLL's mounted vertically all around one single plant, and horizontally up above it, which would be very expensive initial cost, and LOTS of watts. But something intuitively tells me it would produce a better quality tree in the end than an HID garden of equivalent wattage that was being used to grow a single tree.
PLL's are basically the shit. I hope everyone in the fluorescent clubs around these parts knows that! I've been doing coral reefs my entire life, even worked for a family business doing aquaculture for a good portion of that time, and I'm telling you guys, NOTHING outperformed the power compacts. (I don't think anyone calls them PLLs accept for pot growers, lol. Everyone else calls them power compacts). PLLs throw out so much intense light that you can use them over a 30" tall aquarium and still get algae blooms on the substrate from the intense light. That means that there is at least a good 2 to 2.5 feet of useable light below each bulb. Then when you stack them up close together, and use multi-faceted reflectors, you have some B-R-I-G-H-T light!!!!!
So I am setting up a vertical cab using T5s as prototypes, then when that works properly, I will design a cab using the expensive PLLs, that will run 840 watts vertically. I think it will outyield a 1000w MH (maybe not an HPS, but since I prefer sativa doms I wouldn't want to use orange light in this cab anyway. I would use a cabinet similar to this, about 18" x 18" x 72":
And I would use 4 of these 210w fixtures, one on each wall, and the door:
If necessary, I could always put a 125w CFL up top, then it would be completely surrounded by light on all sides. But I'm under the impression it wouldn't even be necessary. All that's left after that is a single plant in a 5g DWC bucket. 12/12 from seed, pure sativas... I get a good feeling about this concept.
So that's my stream of consciousness response. Sorry for rambling, lol, but my brain gets going sometimes with the ideas. It's the asperger's, lol...
Also, in case anyone hasn't seen this before, here is the link to a trashcan grow that yielded over 5 ounces using vertical PLLs: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=92259
Someone linked me to it in one of my threads, and it pretty much confirmed my suspicions about what can be accomplished with fluorescents.
Someone linked me to it in one of my threads, and it pretty much confirmed my suspicions about what can be accomplished with fluorescents.
