Swamp Growing?
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Hey Captain, was it oldsterone who grew on a lake? Like in PVC pipes stuck in the mud or something?
Captain Skunk
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Gantz said:
I couldn't find any of my old pictures but the swamp growing concept was placing your containers of soil mix, right in a few inches of standing water.
Obviously your containers would have drainage holes in the bottoms which allow water to wick up into your root system or drain during periods of rain.
I've seen swamp grows in 5 gallon pails but the high yeilding growers usually used grow bags, or something larger, that would allow unrestricted root development.
As the plant grows larger some of the root mass will actually grow out the bottom of the containers into the water. The upper root system in the container provides oxygen to the plant, so it doesn't drown.
The most difficult part of the grow is hauling your soil and containers into the swamp in springtime. Two Heads had made a swamp buggy.....which resembled a wheelbarrow (sort of).
Another swamp growing concept was sinking a large diameter piece of plastic pipe (6+ inch diameter) into the water and filling it with soil and your plant. Again, additional drainage holes in the containers provide drainage in wet weather.
BC If I remember correctly, Oldster1 was using 5 gallon pails. He pops in once in a while, here or at PG. I'll have to ask if he has any pictures.
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Call me Swampette~
I rule the swamps here in PQ
Styrofoam boxes work well where the terrain is moundy and too wet~
Plant on north/east side of swamp where the soil is 50/50. By that I mean when you dunk your hand in the soil it's not too wet, nor dry~
These placves maintain themselves 'cause they need not ferts nor you. These environments are full of micro organisms that you can smell~People don't take nature hikes near swamps, there are too many mosquitos, black flies, dear flies........
To cross boggy swamps, I use snow shoes.....rat tail.
What else? Ummmm
I rule the swamps here in PQ
Styrofoam boxes work well where the terrain is moundy and too wet~
Plant on north/east side of swamp where the soil is 50/50. By that I mean when you dunk your hand in the soil it's not too wet, nor dry~
These placves maintain themselves 'cause they need not ferts nor you. These environments are full of micro organisms that you can smell~People don't take nature hikes near swamps, there are too many mosquitos, black flies, dear flies........
To cross boggy swamps, I use snow shoes.....rat tail.
What else? Ummmm
G
Guyute54
I might be wrong but didn't alot of the swamp growers place rocks at the bottom of the bucket they grew out of? I think it had to do with drainage so the bottom roots wouldn't get root rot.
G
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I don't plant that close to the edge~If I'm in a moundy bog, there are patches where large containers would work, If you have the time, gas and energy to check-em regularly, then pots and rocks, fine~Swamps are unique as are small islands~Micro climatized around these parts~
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oldsterone-OG
Nice to see my name dropped in this thread, whose entirety I just perused. I have sources though, mainly two heads, and an old overgrower named sasquatch. Those dudes advanced my cause, and I will never go back to the upland again.
I grow in five gallon buckets, the ones my fruit trees come in from the nursery. They are black, and I re-use them every year. My situation is ideal: I live in and own a 40 acre bog that surrounds a private spring charged lake. My water table is constant, even during the serious dry spells. Thus, I can scatter my plots...most years, I bring home 15 -20 females...small time, but with the endless water and natural nutrients, I grow serious buds.
I haul my soil on the ice in my kid's sleds very lates spring, just as the ice is falling apart. I canoe once a week to visit the plants, and harvest with my pontoon, which is so funny and awesome I have to post a pic to crack up Captain Skunk.
I can offer two more observations. One is brought to my attention I think by breeder brad on unleash the green.com. He reminds me that bog water is acidic, and we should throw down some lime into those holes we slip our bucket into.
Please also forgive my environmental observation, which is simple this: nutrient rich soils do not belong in bogs....they should be hauled out as well as in. This is almost impossible to do folks, since on the heart pounding day where we pontoon away with a pile of plants as depicted her, we abandon the grow, and trim trim.
Because I own the land I grow on, and love it so much, I force myself to go out like I did yesterday, and clean it up. I brought in my buckets, wire, and I dumped the soil into the lake so it would not bring the wrong plants into my tamarack peat bog.
These plants were grown in my bog, and they sat in two inches of water all summer long.
I grow in five gallon buckets, the ones my fruit trees come in from the nursery. They are black, and I re-use them every year. My situation is ideal: I live in and own a 40 acre bog that surrounds a private spring charged lake. My water table is constant, even during the serious dry spells. Thus, I can scatter my plots...most years, I bring home 15 -20 females...small time, but with the endless water and natural nutrients, I grow serious buds.
I haul my soil on the ice in my kid's sleds very lates spring, just as the ice is falling apart. I canoe once a week to visit the plants, and harvest with my pontoon, which is so funny and awesome I have to post a pic to crack up Captain Skunk.
I can offer two more observations. One is brought to my attention I think by breeder brad on unleash the green.com. He reminds me that bog water is acidic, and we should throw down some lime into those holes we slip our bucket into.
Please also forgive my environmental observation, which is simple this: nutrient rich soils do not belong in bogs....they should be hauled out as well as in. This is almost impossible to do folks, since on the heart pounding day where we pontoon away with a pile of plants as depicted her, we abandon the grow, and trim trim.
Because I own the land I grow on, and love it so much, I force myself to go out like I did yesterday, and clean it up. I brought in my buckets, wire, and I dumped the soil into the lake so it would not bring the wrong plants into my tamarack peat bog.
These plants were grown in my bog, and they sat in two inches of water all summer long.
Greens
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Hey check out my outdoor thread (manitoba outdoor crops). All my plants are grown in swampy land and they don't require any watering at all. I think I explain my technique in my thread, but I'll take a look. We get some crazy hot and dry summers here, so this method has really made it possible to do some nice grows.
Later,
Greens
Later,
Greens
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oldsterone-OG
And Greens, next summer I will be rocking my bog with 12 of your GG beans; thanks again. We have a few things in common, and it begins with great early strains out in that guns over your head vegetation.
What kind of vape do you use Greens? I am a fan of the aromazap, since it looks halfway normal on my bookshelf.
What kind of vape do you use Greens? I am a fan of the aromazap, since it looks halfway normal on my bookshelf.
Greens
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Hi oldsterone, yes indeed, swamp growing is where it is at! Who wants to water their plants out in the wild? Not me...lol.
For vaping I use my Vriptech, Valloon, Volcano, Vapolution, and also the titanium oil vape. For herb, I pretty much use the Vrip as much as possible and the vapolution for travelling or camping. The valloon or volcano is only used when there is lots of people around so I can pass around the tokes quicker than with the Vrip. For personal or just a few people, I always hit the Vrip because it delivers larger, more tasty hits that get me more high. Also, I toke all my honey and budder in the titanium oil vape.
For vaping I use my Vriptech, Valloon, Volcano, Vapolution, and also the titanium oil vape. For herb, I pretty much use the Vrip as much as possible and the vapolution for travelling or camping. The valloon or volcano is only used when there is lots of people around so I can pass around the tokes quicker than with the Vrip. For personal or just a few people, I always hit the Vrip because it delivers larger, more tasty hits that get me more high. Also, I toke all my honey and budder in the titanium oil vape.
Tropical
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I'm a vapor lover too. I got my Volcano several years ago before there was much real competition. I've been loving it ever since.
I've heard that the Vrip gives bigger hits, but I find the Volcano sooo easy to use that it might be worth it to just take a few extra hits. I have bad insomnia, so I get myself so stoned every night that I pass out. I would be nervous if I had to deal with the glass, water, and heat gun every night while I'm in that stoned stupor.
I only know a few other people who have tried both the Vrip and the Volcano, and they all said the Vrip had an edge in taste and bigger hits. Is that your opinion too, or do you think the difference is huge?
I've heard that the Vrip gives bigger hits, but I find the Volcano sooo easy to use that it might be worth it to just take a few extra hits. I have bad insomnia, so I get myself so stoned every night that I pass out. I would be nervous if I had to deal with the glass, water, and heat gun every night while I'm in that stoned stupor.
I only know a few other people who have tried both the Vrip and the Volcano, and they all said the Vrip had an edge in taste and bigger hits. Is that your opinion too, or do you think the difference is huge?
bushmaster113
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bump. Lets get some pics of this seasons swamp growing set ups going.
quadracer
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this is an extremely interesting method of growing, and I must admit that I am excited to try it out. This and Rare Groove's thread on the swamp gungi growing...
I love to go to camping along some mountain lakes, and often go rafting too. Now I can find some good sunny spots that won't have to be watched for long periods of time, and have it be relatively safe from thieves, and still produce some medical grade herb.
I love to go to camping along some mountain lakes, and often go rafting too. Now I can find some good sunny spots that won't have to be watched for long periods of time, and have it be relatively safe from thieves, and still produce some medical grade herb.
bushmaster113
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Ya it is quadracer! I will post pics of my swamp spot and its preparation friday or saturday.
Cheers!
Cheers!
bushmaster113
Member
No pics, but I am in love with my bog spot. I have ~ 5 gallon nursery pots I cut the bottoms off of, dug in a few inches and filled with MG soil... and I have some trash cans I cut the bottoms off of which each hold 1 huge bag of MG soil.
Those cans are going to produce some ridiculous plants. I only took 4 trash cans with me, but I love em. I plan to put 1 of each best strain in each can. So probably a Super Silver Haze, Sour Diesel IBL, a True Blueberry, and then I have to decide between which of the following plants gets a big can all to herself: Sweet Tooth #3, Critical Mass, Kali Mist, AK-47, C99, or Mist of Destruction.
Any suggestions?
Those cans are going to produce some ridiculous plants. I only took 4 trash cans with me, but I love em. I plan to put 1 of each best strain in each can. So probably a Super Silver Haze, Sour Diesel IBL, a True Blueberry, and then I have to decide between which of the following plants gets a big can all to herself: Sweet Tooth #3, Critical Mass, Kali Mist, AK-47, C99, or Mist of Destruction.
Any suggestions?
OutdoorGrower
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My swamp over the winter
Greens
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Remember to cut the bottom off of the buckets or containers you are using so the roots have access to the water below. Some people just drill a few holes in the bottom and that works too. However, if you are going to be gone for long periods of time, you are better off with the bottom cut right off so the roots can penetrate the swampy soil in case the water level drops dramatically in semi-drought situations (that happens often here in the Canadian prairies).
It is best to fill the containers mostly with coco coir. Coir is much easier to transport than anything because of it's compact size. I use 20 gallon containers with the bottom cut out and I place one large coco block in each container (that's almost enough to fill it). I come back a week later to let the coir absorb water and expand. I put in a little top soil, worm castings, tropical bat guano, and a half cup of dolomite lime and mix it in with the coir. Then, my planting beds are complete, sitting about 1.5 feet above the swampy ground. The coir wicks up moisture from below, but because they are sitting above the ground, there is enough air in the containers for healthy growth. If the water lever drops dramatically, the tap roots will grow right down into the swampy ground to get to the water.
I usually feed with Earth Juice Catalyst whenever I visit and I give them earth juice bloom as soon as I see the pistils starting and again a few weeks later.
OK, good luck with everyone's swamp grows...
Greens
It is best to fill the containers mostly with coco coir. Coir is much easier to transport than anything because of it's compact size. I use 20 gallon containers with the bottom cut out and I place one large coco block in each container (that's almost enough to fill it). I come back a week later to let the coir absorb water and expand. I put in a little top soil, worm castings, tropical bat guano, and a half cup of dolomite lime and mix it in with the coir. Then, my planting beds are complete, sitting about 1.5 feet above the swampy ground. The coir wicks up moisture from below, but because they are sitting above the ground, there is enough air in the containers for healthy growth. If the water lever drops dramatically, the tap roots will grow right down into the swampy ground to get to the water.
I usually feed with Earth Juice Catalyst whenever I visit and I give them earth juice bloom as soon as I see the pistils starting and again a few weeks later.
OK, good luck with everyone's swamp grows...
Greens
PHL8T ME
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Hey, thanks for the tips. I was planning on using my own compost with about 15% peat, 10% horse poo in the mix. A dash of lime, some 3/4 inch holes all over the bottom of the buckets. Question-should I dig in the buckets a few inches? Last two years I've had buckets tip over near flowering time because the plants got so big. I guess I could pound a cement form stake through one of the holes in the bucket.......Hummmmm?
