SuperSilverHaze from Mr Nice, Part II...pedro's way

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I'll have to see about the PBP strengths. I used chemical ferts on my last SSH and Skunk Haze. I kept PPMs fairly low...never more than about 750PPM. I feed nearly every time I water so I tend to keep PPMs low. I'll have to see what 30ml/gallon equates to in PPM in my tap water. It may be too strong, but in soil I think I'll be OK at 1Tbls/gal (30ml/gal) I don't like burning plants since that is so much harder to recover from...as opposed to underfeeding a bit.

I respect those who do hydro grows because I have tried them before. Once in the late 80's. My wife at the time made me abort that grow about halfway through flower. Another reason she is now an ex wife Then I tried a ebb/flood early last year that I converted to soil after vegging 5 weeks. I just don't have the time to constantly fiddle with a ebb/flood grow. I also had a hell of a time keeping the pH stable with my tap water. I live in an apartment so I needed to go back to something simple---a soil grow.

But you are right. Hydro grows can be very tricky and unforgiving of mistakes because things happen quickly. If I ever get to where I have some room and privacy, I'll try some form of hydro again maybe.

I'm going to put my two oldest plants into 12/12 tomorrow, the 24th, the other 4 plants will probably go into 12/12 sometime late this coming week, or more likely next weekend.

By the way. I have been to the UK 3 times. I'm 1/8 Scot so I spent most of the time in Scotland. I loved "hillwalking" and did 3 "Monroes" last time over there in 1997. I did Ben Nevis...and tow lesser know ones up near Gairloch where I stayed in a great B&B. They were Slioch and Ben Eighe(sp check) those two were very near Kinlochewe on the West Coast. Spectacular country. How anyone up there does an outside grow beats the hell out of me

later
pedro



PS

What sort of light(s) do you use for vegging and flowering?

I have mine under four standard 48" T-8 fluorescents for veg and 400W HPS or 400W Hortilux for flowering in my 39"x39"x78" Hydrohut "mini" grow tent

 

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Hey everyone

ANYONE can join in this conversation. Don't be shy !!!!!

pedro


And while I'm thinking about it...I'll explain a bit about "clear" pots.

I've used them on and off since the 70's for houseplants mostly.

I highly recommend them for cannabis, especially if you are new to growing plants. The biggest reason is that you can always see how your roots look....very helpful for spotting problems and knowing the right time to transplant. It's simply a myth that light kills roots. Yes you can get algae growth but you'll be transplanting again before that ever gets to be a problem. Lately I have been doing final flowering in 3 gallon black nursery pots. However I have done final flowering in 4 gallon clear pots and never had problems. So try them.

And here's a tip. Spend a few cents and buy something like these Walmart paint pots. They in handy 1 and 2 liter sizes as well as 1 gallon I think.

The big advantage over soda bottles, etc is paint pots have SMOOTH sides. Trust me, it is much easier to remove a plant from a contaier with nice smooth, flexible sides. You have to cut soda bottles off if they have those rippled sides. The paint pots are cheap and easily reusable many times.

The Laffy Taffy are good because they are square with 25% more soil volume compared to a same size round pot. I like 3 liter for initial flowering.

I'm done

pedro

 

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Hey Pedro

Im using a combination of lights in my mother cab I have a 100wt Cfl security light that I start my seeds under it keeps them very short and bushy once vthey are ready to start cloning I move them under 4 20 wt 2ft floros. The 100 wat cfl will however light my whole mother cab good enough to keep 2 mothers in it. When I go to my flood table I hook up a 400 MH. In flower I use 2 400 HPS that are in a single air cooled hood.

Im still experimenting with my setup so you may see many changes as the grow progresses

Im thinking about going to 5 gal buckets filled with rockwool cubes and do a drain to waste run. I flowerted my last mothers this way and being able to move my plants aroung where I wanted, take out of flower room and inspect for Hermi's etc was very nice. It also gives me 3 more feet of flower height and I really want to grow a Tree one time.

 

[greenhead]

Nice looking grow, and I'm sure that's a nice strain to smoke, though I've never tried it.

Quick question, why do you use Beastie Bloomz for the entire flowering period ? Is it because you're growing a sativa and you don't want any N if you switched over to Cha Ching (which has N) after using Beastie Bloomz in the beginning & middle of flower ?

 

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I used Beastie Bloom last grow along with TigerBloom.

What I did was this. I used TigerBloom along with Grow Big early in flowering. I would take a gallon of water. Add GrowBig till the PPM was say, 250PPM. Then I would add TigerBloom till the PPM got to say 450PPM. Then water it in.

As flowering progressed and stretching pretty much stopped. I quit using BigBloom and began to shift to a combo of TigerBloom and Beastie Bloom. I did the same thing. Added TigerBloom to the gallon of water till PPM was 200-300, then added BeastieBloom till the PPM was about 500-700. And later in flower I quit using TigerBloom and used 100% BeastieBloom.

And yes I did it because I didn't want the haze phenos I had to get any more Nitrogen late in flower. Nitrogen late in flower tends to cause heavily sativa phenos like the hazes I had to continue to make more leaves. Cannabis stores a lot of Nitrogen in the large fan leaves. That is why you should leave as many of those big fans on the plant as long as possible. They act as the plants natural storehouse of Nitrogen and other mobile elements. The plant will draw down on these stores as it matures and dies.

This is not necessarily the case with many of the more indica strains....although I am not an expert on either variety just yet This is my opinion based on my experience and the advice of some very good sativa growers.

Bottom line is there are many ways to sucessfully grow these plants. I tend to like my way because it works for me and is fairly simple and straight forward....which is why I think newbies may want to try my methods. I'm convinced that many folks on here make things too hard for themselves.

I gotta go cook pancakes for me and my g/f.

Back a bit later

pedro

 

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Bump

Hows it growing pedro all is well I hope.

 

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I fucked up today. I had put SSH1 and SSH2 into flower. I was supercropping SSH1 and damn near broke the branch clean off. Second time I have done this. I said fuck it and put a band-aid on it splinting it. We'll see if it stays on. I did this to my SSH last grow and it healed. This break may be worse though.

Worst case, I'll take that whole top off and use the two nodes below it.

pedro

 

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That's it, Pedro! You went and done it now. Plant abuse is against the UN charter and is a death penalty offence in California and Amsterdam. It's a good thing I found this thread. I'm here to help. Go to UHaul and buy a big clothing box. Put the poor defenseless ABUSED plant in the box and tape it shut. Leave your door unlocked. I'll come while you are at work and remove the evidence.
I LST a Satori and broke a branch where it was hanging by threads. 2 words--duct tape! Worked great. Branch grew just peachy. er..herby?

 

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LOL
I hope it turns out ok I guess you know what your doing since this is the second time.

 

[Red_Nine]

Can't ever beat the duct tape. I've used this myself. Just make sure you keep an eye on it when it starts to grow. Good tip.

pedro, very nice grow you've got coming along. I've been debating lately about getting some SSH from MNS so I'll have to check your last grow and follow this one. That pic in your first post looks fantastic! I use those Wal Mart paint cups too. Very cheap and perfect sizes.

 

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Can't ever beat the duct tape. I've used this myself. Just make sure you keep an eye on it when it starts to grow. Good tip.

pedro, very nice grow you've got coming along. I've been debating lately about getting some SSH from MNS so I'll have to check your last grow and follow this one. That pic in your first post looks fantastic! I use those Wal Mart paint cups too. Very cheap and perfect sizes.

Well it was too far gone to save that branch so I topped it again. It'll be OK, just set back a week or so. I'll have pics later on this evening of all six plants.

I really do like those paint pots from WalMart. Very easy to get plants out and reuse. And as I've said many times...I really like being able to see the roots.

You can't go wrong with MNS SSHaze IMO. I would not buy Greenhouse.
SSH is really an easy strain to grow IMO. But that's one reason one should buy quality genetics. $150.00 sounds like a lot of money but it is not when you think about it.

I'm thinking about keeping a male this time for seeds. SSH F2's should be pretty good plants. There will be more variation in the phenos, but hard to believe any would be "poor" plants.

Later
pedro

 

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Hey everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a terrific buzz going and and update on my current Mr Nice/Shantibaba SuperSilverHaze grow

These pics are of the two oldest( I name them in order of sprouting) SSH plants SSH1 and SSH2

This was on Feb 24(First 4 numbers of pic are date US style) I put them in my HydroHut mini to flower. They both sprouted on Jan 31 so they are about 3 weeks old. They were topped and trimmed whenever I did it. See post above LOL.

I tried to supercrop SSH 1 and broke the stem too badly. So you can see what it looks like a few pics down below here I took a few mins ago.

pedro


As always click to enlarge

 

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Okeyyyyyy Dokeeeeyyyyy
Here we are with pics from today Feb 28th
They all six of them got water/ferts today.
All six got 1 Tbls(30ml) PureBlendGrow in a gallon of bubbled tap water along with 1tsp of Liquid Karma in the same gallon.

pedro


A note on color rendition. The leaves look like they are too light of a green on my monitor. I can assure you that these plants are a absolutely beautiful shade green when seen in person.
Here is what SSH 1 looks like now. All its growth will be off those 4 branches. I will shape the plant over the next week or two as it begins to stretch. IMO, doing it early in flower is OK. You don't want to be cutting on the plant after the first week or two.


same plant top view. Plant is very healthy and root development is coming on strong...love those clear pots


SSH2 is really a nice plant. Very healthy and green. Roots doing fine. I don't see anything wrong with it. I'll trim off a good part of the lower stuff when I see how it looks in a few days. Not yet decided if I want to have 4 or 6 main branches.

Top of SSH 2


OK here are pics of the 4 younger plants. They are 3-6 days behind SSH1 and 2. They have sorta caught up with each other in size though. I'll be transplanting Friday evening or Saturday. I'll be topping all these when I transplant them.

SSH3(left) still has some funky looking brown spots on lower leaves. However, the rest of the plant looks OK. This one has had problems all along it seems. They are all in the same soil.

The lesson here is "Don't get too upset when this happens."

If the plant has what it needs to grow, and this one does...just be patient. Don't go adding this or that "amendment" trying to cure it. I KNOW what's in my soil and it ain't lacking anything. This plant is probably just a funky, finiky phenotype. This sorta thing on lower leaves early on doesn't worry me if it stays down there. If the plant continues to do this, then I'll worry.
SSH4 is doing OK.


SSH5 and 6 are also doing just fine.


Here they are all together. You can see here they are all looking pretty much the same. So although SSH3 has some "issues" it is not like it is some kind of "runt". It is growing well in spite of the lower leaf issues. This is a powerhouse strain from Shantibaba. A few spotted leaves won't hold it back

 

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Looking good.

I will update mine this weekend. I plan on pulling about a dozen clones tonight.

 

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Hey fellow stoners!!!

I just did a bowl of some Ice I grew last winter/spring. Not bad. Taste and smell really improve with age.

Anyway.... Here below are SSH3,4,and 5 in that order. Compare them to yesterday's pic above. I topped them and pruned off a good bit of lower growth. Each has 2 nodes at 90 degrees and the then I topped it on the node above those two. The idea is to make a candelabra shaped plant with six major branches growing off of the main stem. As each of these 6 branches grows upward, I'll trim off the new budding branches so that growth is more focused on the upper part where the top colas will form. I like to leave those big fans if I can...as long as I can. The big fans are a major part of the plant's "in-house" nutrient storage systemfor mobile elements like Nitrogen. I like to leave them when I can.

If all this is as clear as mud, hang loose, it will be as time goes on and you see the pictures. The reason for all this effort is my limited grow space. Ideally, I want three nice bushy or maybe semi bushy plants for my 39"x39" footprint. Topping should keep them under 44"...at least I hope so. I had to do a bit of LST'ing on my haze pheno. She would have been at least 52-54+" if I had the room to let her go. So the idea is to try to keep my plants really vigorous and healthy, BUT do it in a way where they don't get out of control.

Superior genetics will grow before your eyes if you dial your grow in well. I don't think it is too hard, but you do have to pay attention to your plants every day. Get a feel for how they grow....pay attention to not just leaf color, but things like shape....turgidity...does it feel nice and firm? or does the leaf and stem feel "wimpy"? If you pay daily attention to your plants, you learn heaps about them. Every grow is different. Your plants aren't ever going to grow exactly like mine or anyone elses.

rambling on aren't I?

I will be making up a new soil batch tomorrow AM.
I'll have some pics of how I like to screen my local/regional soil mix to get the "crap" out of it. I use a gold panning screener with 1/2" mesh. It is made to nest fit in the top of a five gallon bucket. I run my worm castings through there too. You might be surprised at the crap you'll find. This crap doesn't make the soil "bad". just rocks and roots and shit is all. BUT it takes up precious space in your pot....and contributes NOTHING to the plants health. So I"ll sit in front of the TV and listen to all the political lies and bullshit being spewed out by ALL of them...and sift my soil.


pedro

 

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Sounds like you are using a version of pistl whippt's pruning technique, Pedro. I've seen some really huge buds using this method. I've never tried it because until recently I've never seen pictures of it. I'm pulling a chair a little closer if it's cool.

 

[BadKarma]

Hey pedro hows that re-veg going back there?

 

[Guest]

Hey pedro hows that re-veg going back there?

Hey Bad K!

The reveg isn't going anywhere. I suspect I didn't leave enough leaves, but there weren't any leaves left down low. I didn't decide to reveg till the last minute. Otherwise I would have left more down low. Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

All six plants are now in 3 liter pots. I transplanted SSH3-6 this morning. SSH 1&2 are in the back in this shot. So now it's just wait and see what I get for females. SSH1&2 should show sex this coming week,probably by the weekend.

pedro

 

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I hope there all girls, good luck.

 

[Aquaman2112]

Well just found this Thread I am growing Some SSHxG13 I put the seeds in water to sprout on jan 10th I have taken Clones and put the bigger ones out to flower.. & Sex them out also growing some of JLP Pheonix #1 and some Blue13xNorthernlights/Sweettooth and today I put some Bogglegum seeds in the dirt

Aqua~
SSHxG13

SweetBlue the Blue13 cross



Sexing out some others



A Group Flowering Shot


Gotta Love Florida Sunshine

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