super lights.. anyone?

[Aeroguerilla]

Im on this webpage right now called portlandled.com they have a section called super lights and they use these 300w magnetic induction lights the guy claims it will compare to 1000w hid. so how bout 3 of these over a 4x8 900w instead of 2000 over the same area, hes says i will see the same results if not better. thinking of grabbing 3 there only 600 a pop. anyone have any knowledge or experience with these lights?

 

[perpetualnewb]

http://www.goodmart.com/products/1317476.htm, there is a ink for a 400 watt light cheaper than their portlanled's 300. also after some reading seems it works the same way as fluorescents (exciting phosphors) but instead of using a filament it uses rf. you got me thinking about them though, high cri, low lumen drop off over life, low energy use.

 

[Lazyman]

Never trust the advice of someone trying to sell you something. How many lumens does it make? Let's see a color chart and the data sheet and we can tell you if it makes enough PAR watts to grow herb.

If you want to look at other experimental lighting tech, check out microwave plasma bulbs too, crazy stuff but not good for growers.

 

[Lazyman]

Hmm i found this on the Mland site: http://www.mlandglobal.com/prod_dtl.asp?id=899

30 lumens per watt, so a 300 watt light puts out 9000 lumens, which is just awful. They claim it's 96% efficient over HPS at 16%, but still:

1000W HPS = 140000 lumens, at 16% = 22400
900W Super lights (3) = 27000 lumens, at 96% = 25920

Just seems awfully convenient, my guess is the low light intensity would be similar to LED's, good fro vegging but not enough for flowering big tight buds.

 

[magiccannabus]

This tech has been around for quite some time. Nobody has really invested enough in it to make it achieve what it definitely is able to, which is a lot more than what they're doing with it now. Using induction to excite phosphors or one kind or another is a great idea, and probably the future of discharge lighting, but the prices are nuts right now. This sort of powering technology could be used on sodium, metal halide, or mercury vapor, but again, not much money being put into it. These companies only drive the new technologies when the old ones have paid for themselves.

 

[Aeroguerilla]

my buddy has the 300w led that they have on there page and pulled 8oz off of 8 plants ak47, nice nice buds better looking then under hps, not nearly as big tho. but imagine 3 of these units over a 4x8? or 3 400w superlights over a 4x8? that would be nuts they claim that the 400w superlight rivals the output of 1600w hid. if hes getting 1/2 pound off one 300watt light with no supplemental light then with 3 overlapping im thinking 2lbs is achievable..thats a savings of 1100w if using 2 1000w which means a. no heat signature, b.no high electric bill... ima try these out i think, test run

 

[Balazar]

Aeroguerilla. I think that this will be an excellent experiment. I have tried the LED lights before with some success but nothing like the results of my 1kW lights. The heat is the most extensive and expensive thing to deal with. I would jump for joy if a lighting system was found that eliminates heat and power consumption hurdles in the grow area. I say go for it.

 

[Lazyman]

Yeah an oz a plant isn't bad, I could fit 32 of those in a 4X4 under ~1.5 of those LED things, but boy are they pricey. I'd need 12 of them at least, at what, $400 each? Ouch.

 

[Lord Doobie]

I just came from some doods site that's about to market these lamps but he wanted to check the flowering first with cannibus
He mentioned the 30 lumens per watt question in this thread

There are 200, 300 and 400 watt models coming

The 400 watters output is over 60000 lumins and our quantum light meter peaks out at 3 ft. away from the bulb that is 2000uMols(par light) compared to a 400 watt HPS our meter peaks at 1.5 feet away and keep in mind that the induction lights are way cooler than the HPS this means they can be placed only a foot from the top of the plants.

I saw a fellow ICMAG member in the thread above...

 

[asde]

i saw it in the led thread and hoped for somewhat 50+lm/w but 30lm/w with the graph they show on portlandled should be ~19-23% efficiency, with 300w it MAY be able to yield as much as an hps same wattage but for sure it wont get close the 1k hps - not really the superior bulb we are looking for :|