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Sugar Shack Junk Yard

Maj.PotHead

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hey brotha them shacks look very nice in 4in net pots quite large
 

HairlessCaveApe

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Thanks Maj.! They should get nicer and nicer now that I bumpt up the ppm's. Her Flowers are more solid this time and Im expectin the next ones to be beter and the next to fallow like that. Imma pretty'em up for Ya now Maj.! It's just gonna take as long as it takes for the corrections to catch up with the Flowers. Next set autta be prerty sweet. These ones aint bad rite now! She aditional p&k is givin me a nicer flavour and everything! Imma get it rite Brudda! Im bumpin my ppm's with powder Kool Bloom! Takes the yellow rite outta the leaves. Se Ya later my Brudda! Imma go play with my camera. I got eagle pictures and everything!
 
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Cozy Amnesia

Thats a sweat set up, I wish I could do something like that with all the cooltubes and aeroponics.
 

HairlessCaveApe

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Hey Howdy CozyAmnesia! Howdy DeToke-ville! Thanks for the Kindness! The Tubes are indispensible and the aero could makem eat like crazy!
 

hazy

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Nice to see the setup HCA. Kind of what I had pictured from your descriptions, but seeing the pump and hoses helps to make me understand what's up. Glad you got the cam and pics going. keep up the good work.
 

HairlessCaveApe

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Hey Thanks Hazy! Yea I was goin crazy without a camera! Then when I got the first one I thought "Oily Shitt! I can finaly post pics!" I made a noize like a wookie you coulda herd from miles around when I droped the fukkin thing on the highway. I just couldnt believe it when it wouldnt work no more. I only got 1 pic of my cat, one of my wife and one of my flower room with it before breakin it. --Well this ones THE SHITT! First thing I done with it is I put the li'l strap on it that goes round your wrist. Its a Sanyo and its got 10 mp with all kindsa differant things it dose. Im realy enjoyin it and Im figurin on tryin out somma the differant features it got. Seems like its got a setting for every situation. Im startin to feel comfortable nuff with it to start messin with the settings and stuff. You gotta clikk this li'l window around to the differant icons to make it do diferant things and its still a bit dificult for me but I'l prolly figure it out in a while. I was finally able to send the kidds pics of this li'l ranch too. They said its Fukkin Awsome! Now if only my Mom would get internet. Il send Her some pic's too! If me and my Wife get this place we'r gonna call it "The Flyin Pig Ranch". -Heres a major crazy thing that happened bout a week anna half ago. When we got up in the mornin my wife told me she had a dream that we we'r sittin in a lawyers office with the landlords sighnin pappers and shitt. She sasid we went back to the ranch and she was thinkin"Damn, that was easy" -and the dream was over. She told me bout it when she woke. Then round lunch time a car came up the drive we didnt recognize. It was onna the landlords. He said he wannet to know what we were doin. -Like, are we gettin a loan, or what. I told him I was gonna go to our bank but they wernt givin me no money. Well to make a long storie short, He said he likes us and he'l work with us. He said he'd like to see us get the place. Crazy shitt huh? Rite the day my wife dremt bout it the land lord comes over! Coincedence or not, it made my day. Smater o fact, Im still high on it! Il saee Ya round on the forums Hazy! Blessins on Ya my Breth!
 
Sounds like your landlord is smart HCA. In this economy if he wants to sell the property and he likes and trusts you, then seller financing is the way to go. Just remember, he needs you like you need him--not a whole lotta buyers out there just now. So, don't be afraid to haggle a little.

"Flying Pig Ranch" ?? Either you thought "pigs would fly" before you bought that ranch or you and the misses are really smoking the heck outta some Shack!

Hope you work it out, my friend.

-dTv
 

HairlessCaveApe

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Thanks DeToke-Ville! Yea, We'r really hopin this works out! We got lotsa oaks and some real cool rock outcrops here. We'r realy lovin it. Its good to be out here!
 

Curse

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A true Authentic Aeroponics

A true Authentic Aeroponics

Blessins on Ya Zizu! Aint it crazy how most Folks think aero's a tek where you need to use real LOW ppm's? I dont think theyre doin it rite. Sometimes I get Folks callin bullstutt when I post how heavy I feed. They must be readin podracer threads or somethin. They shure the fukk aint checkin nasa links. Nasa's the first place that showed me bout how heavy you can feed with aero. The nasa studies showed you can feed MAD heavy6 if you got your nute formula dialed in along with your root zone temps and fog droplet micron size. Rite now Im startin my Shacks out at bout 2300 ppm,s. Sounds crazy but thats whats up. I usta feed my Shack at 1900ppms and then let it rize well over 2400 ppm's but these Shacks need to START at bout 2300 ppm's. Now thats crazy. Just keep all your stats in check and youl be alrite runnin crazy high ppm's. Im glad You see that Brudda. Youl grow good Flowers like that. What I do is I keep my eyes on the newest inserts into the flower room when bumpin up my nutes. I watchem for tip burn. If I aint burnin the newest inserts tips, then I can feed stronger. 2300 ppm's and Im bumpin up the KoolBloom today. I aint dilutin nothin. Im just gonna dump an aditional 15-20ml of KB rite into my res. Depends on what it looks like they need. Feedem strong my Brudda!















First I would like to say am I the only one who hates reading posts that don't
have any spaces or breaks between the entire post...


Hairlesscaveape I hate to be the one to burst you bubble but I have gone thru most of the pages in this topic and you are incorrect on some of your stats
of a true aeroponic system.. First off the reason your ppm level is so high is becuase Quote from acticle

""If the micron sizes of the nutrients are too large then the roots will be saturated and oxygen starved. On the other hand, if the micron sizes of the
droplets are too small; they can not be absorbed by the roots without being supplied in such a great volume that saturation occurs defeating the object
completely""

A true aeroponic system you should be using about 50% to 40% the amt of nutes you would with other systems. Also your results I'm sorry to say
are not anything special.. here's a link of a simple 2600watts pulling out avg 5-6 pounds from Dirt and you should be doing better then a dirt grow with hydro.

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1286588&fpart=14


Even on a movie like see more buds they avg 4.5-6.5 pounds from a hybrid DWC/AERO but it uses like a lawn sprinkler in it.
So far what I have read on your yeilds is about 1 pound per light and alot more hassle to keep everything dialed in..

Here is an article from

Urban Garden Magazine I think you and others might be interested in..

http://www.urbangardenmagazine.com/...ht=ajaxSearch_highlight+ajaxSearch_highlight1

Here is an acticle about true Aero growing Read the entire article they use 99.9% air and 0.1% water mix ratio...
 

Zizu

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Haha! Nice first post. Thanks for the link..... to an article filled with regurgitated information from two manufacturers. First off the Amazon is low pressure system and completely different. Secondly the Atomix is nice but costs thousands of dollars, I didn't see any evidence that a plant can't utilize higher ppms in a high pressure aero environment? I saw some manufacturers who are trying to sell a product emphasizing that you can save some money on nutes by purchasing a multi thousand dollar system. I've always let my plants tell me what they want and they seem to want more in my aero system sooo thats what they shall get. Despite internet articles to the contrary. As you pointed out in your post HCA's grow system might not be anything special but who am I to judge? I know what is special is his willingness to openly share his work and what he has tried with anyone who asks and I think that is quite special indeed.


And if reading a couple posts without spaces is the cost then I consider it a great deal!
 
And if reading a couple posts without spaces is the cost then I consider it a great deal!

Hear, hear.

Seriously Curse, that is some dipshit behavior coming onto a forum like this and have your first post take that tone. So, let me explain something to you. No one gives a shit what you think.

members who are respected and listened to around here earn that respect by sharing what they know, not being presumptuous, and showing what they can do by providing photos and explanations of their work.

I'm just a relative novice around here, but I suspect that I've forgotten more about how to grow weed then you'll ever know.

Don't worry about convincing me though, I'm gonna think you are an A-hole no matter what. I would however review your conduct before expecting to get any respect around here among those you haven't offended yet.

dTv
 

HairlessCaveApe

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Hey Thanks Zizu. Thanks DeToke-Ville. Its ok tho I think He's growin Mushrooms. Im jus kiddin, I actually apreciate the criteek! The only thing that realy buggs me is how could anybody not like it when somebody dont leave no spaces? I LOVE it when nobody leaves no spaces! AND -How the fukk could anyone who Hates reading posts that dont have any spaces or breaks between the entire post actually read threw mosta the pages in this topic? Did You meen on this thread? If Ya did, how the fukk did Ya get threw it all withou goin fukkin crazzy? It musta drove Ya nuts readin threw alla them pages just goin on and on and on without na spaces or breaks between the entire thread! Damn Brudda, You ok? Im sorry bout that. I didnt meen to fukk Ya up like that! --But anyhow. I apreciate Ya pointin this out to me and Imma seriousyl make an honest effort to use proper paragraph form in the future! -About them ppm's tho. Naaa. Dont believe everythin ya read. Like I said before, contrary to popular beliefe, aero is a heavy feeding gardening method. The reason most folks think it aint is because theyre gettin theyr info from people runnin sprinkleponic systems and callinem aero. Or theyre gettin theyre info from people runnin aero wrong. Theyre gettin theyre info from people that are runnin theyre root zone temps all outta wakk. Thats why most folks think aero is a week feedin tek, Because most folks misrepresent theyre sprinklsponic systems as aero systems and say things like"I can only run 800 ppm's in my aero system". Straight up Curse, if Ya do it rite, aero's a heavy feedin tek. I feed way heavy. And Ya shure didnt burst my bubble or nothin. I dont mind my yields at all! Me and my Wife are giggly and smiley alla time! We dont get that lb per light tho. We still smilin anyhow! We hit bout a bit beter then half that tho but every other week. So we'r hittin a bit over an lb per month with 2400 watts flower room light. I know it dont mesure up with the gpw chart. It dont bug me tho. I like doin it like this because I like hittin every other week. I dont think I could do good with a harvest every other month. I needem closer together. I also like the fact that I found a formula that works for all stages of flower. I feed everything from one rez. I kinda like that too. Im not to fond of veggin either. I put my cuttings into flower 4 weeks after cuttinem offa mom. Im not tryinna break a record here Curse. Im just medicatin and payin the bills. It suits me to be on a scedule like this. Im shure that if I wanted to go for weight Id prolly do much beter. But if I was goin for weight I shure wouldnt be runnin perpetual. Id shurly veg longer. Then Id load up all 16 holes in the flower room. I shure wouldnt puttem in 4 at a time. Id puttem in all at once and adjust theyr feedin accordingly. With the perpetual I run thats imposible. I have to feed new inserts into the flower room the same ppm's I feed the mature Flowers. Thats a trick Brudda. But I like it this way! I aint complanin! Its realy clean too! The only explanation for my ppm's bein so high and my Flowers eatin it, is because my aero's proper! My fogs micron size is between 5 + 50 and its chilled down to 66degreez! Now if I can just get my paragraphs in proper form.
 
Hahaha HCA, don't you love it when people come to your thread and tell you whats up and how to do it? I think he said you need a shave too......

Glad you like your new place, sounds similar to the move me and my girlfriend made into a place with a couple of acres.... Bet you will enjoy the space!

Keep up the good work man!
 
Hey Thanks Zizu. Thanks DeToke-Ville. Its ok tho I think He's growin Mushrooms. Im jus kiddin, I actually apreciate the criteek! The only thing that realy buggs me is how could anybody not like it when somebody dont leave no spaces? I LOVE it when nobody leaves no spaces! AND -How the fukk could anyone who Hates reading posts that dont have any spaces or breaks between the entire post actually read threw mosta the pages in this topic? Did You meen on this thread? If Ya did, how the fukk did Ya get threw it all withou goin fukkin crazzy? It musta drove Ya nuts readin threw alla them pages just goin on and on and on without na spaces or breaks between the entire thread! Damn Brudda, You ok? Im sorry bout that. I didnt meen to fukk Ya up like that! --But anyhow. I apreciate Ya pointin this out to me and Imma seriousyl make an honest effort to use proper paragraph form in the future! -About them ppm's tho. Naaa. Dont believe everythin ya read. Like I said before, contrary to popular beliefe, aero is a heavy feeding gardening method. The reason most folks think it aint is because theyre gettin theyr info from people runnin sprinkleponic systems and callinem aero. Or theyre gettin theyre info from people runnin aero wrong. Theyre gettin theyre info from people that are runnin theyre root zone temps all outta wakk. Thats why most folks think aero is a week feedin tek, Because most folks misrepresent theyre sprinklsponic systems as aero systems and say things like"I can only run 800 ppm's in my aero system". Straight up Curse, if Ya do it rite, aero's a heavy feedin tek. I feed way heavy. And Ya shure didnt burst my bubble or nothin. I dont mind my yields at all! Me and my Wife are giggly and smiley alla time! We dont get that lb per light tho. We still smilin anyhow! We hit bout a bit beter then half that tho but every other week. So we'r hittin a bit over an lb per month with 2400 watts flower room light. I know it dont mesure up with the gpw chart. It dont bug me tho. I like doin it like this because I like hittin every other week. I dont think I could do good with a harvest every other month. I needem closer together. I also like the fact that I found a formula that works for all stages of flower. I feed everything from one rez. I kinda like that too. Im not to fond of veggin either. I put my cuttings into flower 4 weeks after cuttinem offa mom. Im not tryinna break a record here Curse. Im just medicatin and payin the bills. It suits me to be on a scedule like this. Im shure that if I wanted to go for weight Id prolly do much beter. But if I was goin for weight I shure wouldnt be runnin perpetual. Id shurly veg longer. Then Id load up all 16 holes in the flower room. I shure wouldnt puttem in 4 at a time. Id puttem in all at once and adjust theyr feedin accordingly. With the perpetual I run thats imposible. I have to feed new inserts into the flower room the same ppm's I feed the mature Flowers. Thats a trick Brudda. But I like it this way! I aint complanin! Its realy clean too! The only explanation for my ppm's bein so high and my Flowers eatin it, is because my aero's proper! My fogs micron size is between 5 + 50 and its chilled down to 66degreez! Now if I can just get my paragraphs in proper form.

LOTFLMFAO--classic. the complaint and your response--the first half of this--should be a sig.

And I just wanna reiterate what you are saying HCA, because it sounds to me like you're trying to create a system that is as simple as possible yet pretty tricky. Babies goin into the same soup as the mature plants is a new one on me.

I think one of the really cool things you are doing here is demonstrating to peeps some of the trade-offs one makes to design a system that fits their particular needs. I would not have thought it was a good idea to run a perpetual aero where all plants are nourished from the same rez. Noe have I ever been advised to feed plants in ANY system @ 2300 ppm! But now I know it can be done.

And yet more weed-growing dogmas, like grains of sand through the hourglass, are tumbled on the heap of outdated and overturned nuggets of consenses wisdom.

-dTv
 

Zizu

Member
I'm also running a single res with the same nutrient solution from start to finish. My goal was to have one res I could run on multiple varieties in all stages of flower. All I need to finish is my Veg area and I'll be ready to switch to a multi stage system. I'm now trying to decide how to get rid of my cloner by setting up a cloner that uses the same res....... I guess we'll see how things root in 2300ppm?

If that works I'll have hit my goal of one res running all stages of growth including clones. Hmmm. Without media unless you count a little hydroton for the moms.
 

HairlessCaveApe

Active member
Blessins on Yas Bruddas! Its easy to understand how others would call bullshitt when somebody posts about runnin ppm's so high. Especially in aero. I read all them articles bout the low ppm's and shitt. I foundem to be wrong. I tried low ppm's and they just didnt work. Deficincies all over. I tried to do it the way everybody says to do it. It didnt work for me. I did beter wingin it then listinen to what the general consensus was bout aero.
Lemme just start another paragraph here... Ok now, here we go. I think I got that rite. Alrite, Well anyhow. -I saw deficiencies all over the place feedin low ppm's so I bumped it up. Thats what worked for me. What I found out about how heavy you can feed with aero confirms what I read in a couple NASA studies where they found that when you keep your stats near perfict you can feed mad crazy heavy in an aeroponic system. I believe those studies as oposed to the ones claimin that ya need to feed low ppm's in aero because my own personal findings support the studies that show that heavy feeding is appropriat in an aero system.
So lets see if I got this paragraph thing rite. -So in summination, I just think that the Folks who say ya gotta run low ppm's in an aero system are runnin theyre systems wrong. Mabey theyre droplet size is too big and theyre not gettin any aero benefit, but only the benefit roots get when theyre covered in a thin nutrient film(NFT), I think thats what happens in most cases. I think lotsa Folks think theyre runnin an aero system because theyre sprinklin drops of water on roots. They dont know that's just nft. So they quote ya nft ppm's and say theyre runninem in theyre aero system. I think thats the biggest problem with the misinformation thats perpetuated round aeroponics. I think lotsa Folks run nft and think its aero. Them aerogarden people dont help. Not the Folks usinem, the folks makin and sellinem. They autta get sued or somethin. Theyre basicly an nft system where the nutes run down the roots in a thin film. NFT. Not aero. Good Folks see theyre advertizin and it says "aero" so naturly they think that whenevr ya hang roots and squirtem its aero.
Well just one morte paragraph. Lets see how this paragraphin works out..I cant see it yet till I push the submit reply button so I dont know if I did it rite yet. But here it comes anyhow.. --So its cool if somebody disputes my posted ppm's. I can shurly understand. But when somebody busts on me for my paragraph form, That realy cuts me to the core. Its ok tho. Its something that needed to be done. From here on I will shurly put a whole lott more effort into my paragraph form. Thank you Cursed. It hurt me a li'l bit. But something good will come outta it. -I will master paragraph form by kliking the proper icons on my screen with my mouse. If it aint rite this first time, please have patients. Im new at this.
Now I think my ice is froze so Im gonna go an shake a jug! Many Many Blessins my Bruddas! Imma go an shake a jug!​
 
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