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Study Shows Microbes Help Produce Serotonin in Gut

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http://scicasts.com/disease-process...shows-microbes-help-produce-serotonin-in-gut/

Pasadena, CA (Scicasts) — Although serotonin is well known as a brain neurotransmitter, it is estimated that 90 percent of the body's serotonin is made in the digestive tract. In fact, altered levels of this peripheral serotonin have been linked to diseases such as irritable bowel syndrome, cardiovascular disease, and osteoporosis.


Researchers at Caltech have now found that certain bacteria in the gut are important for the production of peripheral serotonin. They reported their findings in the April 9 issue of the journal Cell.
"More and more studies are showing that mice or other model organisms with changes in their gut microbes exhibit altered behaviours," explains Elaine Hsiao, research assistant professor of biology and biological engineering and senior author of the study. "We are interested in how microbes communicate with the nervous system. To start, we explored the idea that normal gut microbes could influence levels of neurotransmitters in their hosts."


Peripheral serotonin is produced in the digestive tract by enterochromaffin (EC) cells and also by particular types of immune cells and neurons. Hsiao and her colleagues first wanted to know if gut microbes have any effect on serotonin production in the gut and, if so, in which types of cells. They began by measuring peripheral serotonin levels in mice with normal populations of gut bacteria and also in germ-free mice that lack these resident microbes.


The researchers found that the EC cells from germ-free mice produced approximately 60 percent less serotonin than did their peers with conventional bacterial colonies. When these germ-free mice were recolonized with normal gut microbes, the serotonin levels went back up--showing that the deficit in serotonin can be reversed.


"EC cells are rich sources of serotonin in the gut. What we saw in this experiment is that they appear to depend on microbes to make serotonin--or at least a large portion of it," says Jessica Yano, first author on the paper and a research technician working with Hsiao.


The researchers next wanted to find out whether specific species of bacteria, out of the diverse pool of microbes that inhabit the gut, are interacting with EC cells to make serotonin.
After testing several different single species and groups of known gut microbes, Yano, Hsiao, and colleagues observed that one condition--the presence of a group of approximately 20 species of spore-forming bacteria--elevated serotonin levels in germ-free mice. The mice treated with this group also showed an increase in gastrointestinal motility compared to their germ-free counterparts, and changes in the activation of blood platelets, which are known to use serotonin to promote clotting.


Wanting to home in on mechanisms that could be involved in this interesting collaboration between microbe and host, the researchers began looking for molecules that might be key. They identified several particular metabolites--products of the microbes' metabolism--that were regulated by spore-forming bacteria and that elevated serotonin from EC cells in culture. Furthermore, increasing these metabolites in germ-free mice increased their serotonin levels.


Previous work in the field indicated that some bacteria can make serotonin all by themselves. However, this new study suggests that much of the body's serotonin relies on particular bacteria that interact with the host to produce serotonin, says Yano. "Our work demonstrates that microbes normally present in the gut stimulate host intestinal cells to produce serotonin," she explains.


"While the connections between the microbiome and the immune and metabolic systems are well appreciated, research into the role gut microbes play in shaping the nervous system is an exciting frontier in the biological sciences," says Sarkis K. Mazmanian, Luis B. and Nelly Soux Professor of Microbiology and a coauthor on the study. "This work elegantly extends previous seminal research from Caltech in this emerging field".


Additional coauthor Rustem Ismagilov, the Ethel Wilson Bowles and Robert Bowles Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering, adds, "This work illustrates both the richness of chemical interactions between the hosts and their microbial communities, and Dr. Hsiao's scientific breadth and acumen in leading this work."


Serotonin is important for many aspects of human health, but Hsiao cautions that much more research is needed before any of these findings can be translated to the clinic.


"We identified a group of bacteria that, aside from increasing serotonin, likely has other effects yet to be explored," she says. "Also, there are conditions where an excess of peripheral serotonin appears to be detrimental."


Although this study was limited to serotonin in the gut, Hsiao and her team are now investigating how this mechanism might also be important for the developing brain. "Serotonin is an important neurotransmitter and hormone that is involved in a variety of biological processes. The finding that gut microbes modulate serotonin levels raises the interesting prospect of using them to drive changes in biology," says Hsiao.
 

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When someone has been on antibiotics they can lose their gut flora. People often eat yoghurt afterwards to try and reinoculate their intestinal tract with the lactobacillus culture. It would be interesting to know what antibiotics knock out these serotonin producing bacteria. As a result of this research, will doctors be prescribing replacement bacterial cultures after some antibiotic therapies? Serotonin is a hormone with a really significant role in our emotional state. Has taking certain antibiotics left some people in a state of clinical depression because of this? It will be really interesting to see where this goes.
 

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Serotonin is a hormone with a really significant role in our emotional state.

Not only is it produced in the gut, a large portion of serotonin is resides in the gut (enteric nervous system). This effects emotions, fight or flight, excitement, etc.. our most baseline emotional states. This is also why when you eat psycedelics you have very odd feelings in your stomach.
 

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When someone has been on antibiotics they can lose their gut flora. People often eat yoghurt afterwards to try and reinoculate their intestinal tract with the lactobacillus culture. It would be interesting to know what antibiotics knock out these serotonin producing bacteria. As a result of this research, will doctors be prescribing replacement bacterial cultures after some antibiotic therapies? Serotonin is a hormone with a really significant role in our emotional state. Has taking certain antibiotics left some people in a state of clinical depression because of this? It will be really interesting to see where this goes.

Besides all the pharmaceutical drugs, think about all the food we have access to. Refined sugar and salt, chemically processed food, vegetables with pesticides on them... Everything is made to conserve for a period of time, so we put conservatives in our food, which slow down bacteria growth. Also I wonder what alcohol does to our flora?

You can perfectly compare your gut to living organic soil... You are the plant, depending on your gut for nutrition and good health.
Anything that's bad for a compost pile is probably bad for a human depending on how much the system can handle :)

I'm sure our behaviour is altered in many more ways due to the food we eat, and not always due to the bacteria in our gut. Every distinct culture has a distinct food style as well.
 
I've been dealing with Candida for the past 7 months, and I could agree with what they have published. I have almost got over the physical issues, but am still dealing with the mental issues as my stomach is not fully back to where it should be. Fight or flight happens out of no where over nothing. It is happening a lot less now. Maybe a few times per week.

It has been a long strange trip. Also cannabis smoke has the same alcohol in it that candida produces so I have not smoked in 7 months because it gives me severe anxiety, ocd, etc..... Some weird shit.

It all started with a botched dental procedure and against my better judgment I took some antibiotics. My life has not been the same since.

Interestingly the doctor I am going to had me stop yogurt, and probiotics, and in the past month I have gotten way better then the past 6 months. Who would have thunk it? :) I have been on an extremely restricted diet for 4 months now, and I am finally starting to get back to almost normal. I haven't had fruit, anything with gluten, sugar, vinegar, pickled, soy sauce, tamari, and the list can go on and on for 4 months.

I am feeling better though.

Interesting information.
 

Shcrews

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i thought serotonin was the shit that gets used up when you take MDMA, or is that dopamine

yah, i don't science much.
 

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it is, and amazingly enough it is mostly in our stomach

there are theories that even autism is a serotonin disorder (between mom and unborn child)

feeling good when the system is balanced is like being on low doses of mdma without the mdma being necessary

really helps hallmark the importance of sound nutrition

our body our temple garbage in garbage out
 

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Much of "hippy" science has real causation on microbial levels

from liver enzymes that neutralize stress hormone to gut microbiology producing serotonin our body should reach a healthy homeostasis based on the quality of our inputs not the other way around

in one model we have happy people end environment and less capital in the other we have more things, people and seemingly even ess happiness
 

sprinkl

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The satisfied feeling after a good meal, that's a boost of serotonin, the irritable mood I'm in when really hungry is lack of serotonin.
Serotonin regulates sleep, do you know the feeling when you awaken from a good sleep or somewhere in the middle of the night and knowing you can sleep some more.
MDMA lets you feel an intense connection, and psychedelics like mushrooms and lsd which also mainly affect serotonin receptors make you see/think/feel dreamy stuff, it's interesting how our brain, and gut works.

Could there be nirvana or higher conciousness in really healthy food that we don't know of? /hippy madness
 

Crusader Rabbit

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Not only is it produced in the gut, a large portion of serotonin is resides in the gut (enteric nervous system). This effects emotions, fight or flight, excitement, etc.. our most baseline emotional states. This is also why when you eat psycedelics you have very odd feelings in your stomach.

MDMA lets you feel an intense connection, and psychedelics like mushrooms and lsd which also mainly affect serotonin receptors make you see/think/feel dreamy stuff, it's interesting how our brain, and gut works.


I was prescribed Prozac, a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor, for chronic back pain. It was an experience. The elevated serotonin levels left me more easily agitated with problems in concentration. It felt kinda speedy and in some aspects could be compared to tripping. Coffee worked to amplify the effects. Finally figured out what was going on and quit cold turkey which was another kick in the head. It was later explained to me that I metabolize Prozac differently than most people.
 

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I stole this pic from a post of Madjag's.


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All you have to do is find a very happy person and eat some of their shit...think I'm fooling,look it up.
 

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That gut feeling

With a sophisticated neural network transmitting messages from trillions of bacteria, the brain in your gut exerts a powerful influence over the one in your head, new research suggests.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/09/gut-feeling.aspx

Antibiotics: Killing Off Beneficial Bacteria … for Good?
http://www.wired.com/2011/08/killing-beneficial-bacteria/

Extreme Diets Can Quickly Alter Gut Bacteria
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2013/12/extreme-diets-can-quickly-alter-gut-bacteria

Mother's diet modifies her child's DNA
http://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2014/mothers_diet.html


Research by CHORI Scientists Indicates Causal Link between Vitamin D, Serotonin Synthesis and Autism: Dietary Interventions Will Have Relevance for Prevention and possibly for Treatment of Autism http://www.childrenshospitaloakland.org/main/news/230.aspx


Mothers' diets may harm IQs in two-thirds of babies
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-harm-iqs-in-twothirds-of-babies-8626229.html
 

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http://www.nature.com/news/bacteria...mazon-village-1.17348?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews

Bacteria bonanza found in remote Amazon village

Genes for antibiotic resistance among those found in most-diverse human microbiome.

An isolated American Indian group in the Venezuelan Amazon hosts the most-diverse constellation of microbes ever discovered in humans, researchers reported on 17 April in Science Advances1. Surprisingly, the group's microbiome includes bacteria with genes that confer antibiotic resistance — even though its members, part of the Yanomami tribe, are not thought to have been exposed to the drugs.

“We knew that the microbes living on Yanomami would probably be more diverse, but we were surprised by the extent,” says Maria Gloria Dominguez-Bello, a microbial ecologist at New York University and an author of the paper.

The work adds to a growing body of research on the microbiome. Studies have suggested, for instance, that the microscopic communities that occupy the human body could be a new source of drugs2. And comparing the composition of different groups' microbiomes has given researchers clues about how humans lived and migrated long ago3.

But scientists still do not understand all the factors that determine the make-up of a person's microbiome. “We do know that food, environment and chemicals play the big roles,” says Sarkis Mazmanian, a microbiologist at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. The wide adoption of antibiotics, rigorous hygiene and processed diets is thought to have have cut down the genetic diversity of microbiomes in the developed world.

This makes the microbiomes of individual Yanomami particularly interesting, Dominguez-Bello says. The researchers took oral, faecal and skin samples from 34 people in a small Yanomami community that was unknown to the Western world until 2008, when it was spotted by helicopter. A medical team made contact in 2009, but the group remains relatively isolated. (Mindful of this, only one of the study's authors interacted with the villagers to collect the microbe samples.)

When researchers analysed the microbial DNA in those samples, they found that the average Yanomami's microbiota had twice as many genes as that of the average US person. More surprisingly, the Yanomami microbiome was even more diverse than those reported for other indigenous groups in South America and in Africa4.
Hints of modern medicine

The scientists were also intrigued by the discovery of genes that cause resistance to both naturally occurring and synthetic antibiotics. Kenneth Kidd, an evolutionary biologist at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, says that it is difficult to draw any conclusions about how this resistance arose, however.

Although relatively unaffected by the outside world for 11,000 years, some Yanomami groups have been widely studied by anthropologists since the middle of the twentieth century. Those who participated in this study had crossed paths with few outsiders — just a few medical personnel — but, Kidd says, “microbes move much faster than human contact”. Soil exposure and trade could bring in enough antibiotics to induce resistance mutations, for example.

Still, the paper is a landmark work, says Mazmanian. “Many people have speculated that ancient microbiomes were much more diverse,” he says. “With this sequencing, it’s like we have a snapshot going back in microbial time to show it.”

And the research may yield more discoveries: the study's authors have cultured and stored the microbes they collected and plan to further study and characterize them.
 
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