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Strange Slime buildup on roots
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It's all good posting anything beneficial for the community here.
I took a look at the product root assist. Those tea packets look too small to me. What you begin with is what determines what you end up with. More initial material used equals many more microbes. Something such as the brown slime algae requires a massive microherd army.
I should know, I'm the one who battled the unnamed at the time snot slime without any information to be found on the internet anywhere. I researched it for years. I discovered its name, origin, and how to deal with and slay it. This slime club thread documents the journey and is one of if not the most epic threads in any mj website forum.
That company producing the root assist appears to be just another company attempting to profit off of what they discovered here thru my work. When I see things such as: add to rez every 3rd day, fridge for up to 10 days, use a funnel and cheese clothe, use GH Ancient Forest, etc., I know it's all bitten from my work here documented years ago.
Adding to the rez every 3rd day is what I figured out was best through experimentation and observation under microscope. Same with fridging it up to 10 days. Those directions were found no where else. In addition nobody was making teas specifically for hydroponic systems when I developed a tea recipe that anybody could gather the ingredients from available products on the market and make it themselves for FREE.
Don't be fooled guys and gals by all the plagiarism elsewhere from my work done here in the slime club thread. My hydro tea recipe has been mistakenly been going around by the name Heisenberg Tea at rollitup.org. No doubt it was lifted from this thread and the post was started over there in 8/2010 after this thread died down. My tea was documented here in 2008. The RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions name was attributed to me by members in this thread when I gave the hydro tea recipe to the community for FREE.
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You don't need to buy anything else from anybody except for my hydro tea recipe. Unless, you have some mutant nasty microbe that is resistant to the tea. That is what I have been working on the last 5 years since I made the first hydro tea recipe. If you have experienced the slime, nobody should have to suffer thru it when the information is here for free. Nobody should be holding out the information from our fellow growers for profit or praise.
I haven't been in the forums for a few years and I have come to see how wildly successful my hydro tea recipe has become. Every mj website has people plagiarizing my work and many offering products for profit. Even retailers are taking advantage.
That's how incredible my tea recipe is. I'm sure tens of thousands of crops have been saved by now. Before and still, no product available at a hydro store can produce the results of my original hydro tea recipe.
Don't buy anything except what is needed to make your own RichyRich Hydro Tea that is below in my signature.
If you think you may have a mutant microbe infestation, you may be interested in my two other threads. Start off by going to the Rot Club thread. It's all about root rot and other root problems. It's going to be just as epic as this thread is. Link below.
Can't tell if you have root rot or the brown slime algae, come on in ?!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319
I'm going to be requesting a lock on this thread because it has become to bloated, but do read it and your growing skill will increase dramatically from the information contained within from all the members that contributed.
Please, DO NOT POST HERE ANYMORE. The continuation has been taken to the new thread linked below.
GOT SLIME? Slime Haters Club (part 2 to Strange Slime build up on roots)
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=6262194#post6262194
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Brother, to come back so fast and be offended is lending credence to you being a shill promoting your products for profit. If so take a hike and what did you not understand about not posting in this thread anymore. By the way, your avatar associated with your handle is the same as in other handles in other mj websites pushing their tea products, hmmm.
You do know that you can use simple division to find out the appropriate amount of my recipe to use for 1 gallon right? (rhetorical question btw) And btw, how many of those damn packets would I need to use for a hundred gallon rez? How about if I have 5 rez's? Answer, too damn many and I don't even want to think of the price for one week of tea packets.
Yes the idea is to help fellow growers with slime. That's why I dedicated years here finding out what it was and I shared it all for Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Why else am I back starting 2 more threads dedicated to slime and root rot? I know what I had at the time and I didn't try to capitalize on it. Damn right it's personal when people are trying to profit off of what is here for Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to help fellow growers. Weeeeeeeeeeeee that is fun to say. What happened to stoner love???
There is nothing much that is going to be better. As I've even told people in my threads, even using EWC and a sugar source will do them good.
Now be gone most probable shill...
richyrich, you seem to be the one offended. Are you trying to say that you are the first one in the world to use tea's? I highly doubt it. I'm not sure if you know, but there are many thousands of growers and some have been making advances in this industry behind the scenes for many years without ever going on the internet. Just because you personally can't find any information yourself on the internet doesn't mean that you were plagiarized. I don't know why you are so focused on who did what first if your true cause is to help the community. If some other company uses a tea that has a different recipe than yours, you can't say that they stole it from you. It sounds a little crazy. I can guarantee you that you were not the only one battling the slime back in 2008. Many growers have seen the slime for many years before that and there has been Chlorine Treatments for this for many years in the hydro greenhouse community. So now you want this thread closed because you think you are the only one with all the answers? There are many answers and you do not hold the keys to all of them. There are many ways to deal with these specific problems.
it is on rollitup, when I was researching this slime issue and I come across the thread on rollitup in witch Heisenberg himself was giving advice and was corrected by another about this tea, then he tried it for himself and made a thread about it afterwards. he didn't give that person credit either but they never laid a "claim" to it or anything nor did they say how they learned of it. but when I got hit with this I spend hours for a couple days reading all this stuff, I read this thread until richy took his leave so upto pg 40-45ish. so I doubt he wouldn't say that he did learn it from one of his own members, its still online. One more thing the tea wont reverse slime unless cleaned first and bleach did not seem to cut it, to do the cleaning before treating with tea, however I did not run bleach in my lines and pumps with rez full, I think I should have put water and bleach into rez and ran it with the plants in too, then drained and treated with tea. my battle goes on still.
You are right. I am the one offended and I even stated so. What did you see otherwise to lead you to think not. Offended for people trying to profit off a free community asset!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the one first saying I combined the specific ingredients to make a specific hydro tea. No shit there were plenty of teas being used. Where do you think I got the idea. But none of them could beat the worst case of slime which I had. No microbes from the stores could do it either. I unlocked the right recipe and gave it for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
No duhhhh, other people were battling the slime before 2008. Find me something from prior to my post in 2007-2008 that has a name for the slime. Thats a direct challenge. Provide the proof and I will stand corrected. Chlorine treatments for the slime you say. What about the chlorine resistant slime like you've had. What do you do then.
I didn't say anybody stole anything. I said plagiarism is rampant and most disturbing is the ones trying to profit from the idea yy tricky marketing hype when my tea does it all. Oh my I said "my" tea. What else should I call it if that bothers you. Should we just call it Super Magical Hydro Specific Tea. Would that make you feel better. Maybe we should not call your antibiotic treatment "your procedure" as you state yourself. It may offend strangely touchy people. Luckily of all the thousands of people that read this thread and the others, not many feel the need to reply as such. I wonder what that says.
I would like this thread closed because its way to long, bloated to all hell and people do not read it all which was the deal years ago when it was really active. Look at how many people have viewed this thread. It's easier to go to the condensed portion in the 2nd thread started.
Statements as such from you:
"So now you want this thread closed because you think you are the only one with all the answers? There are many answers and you do not hold the keys to all of them. There are many ways to deal with these specific problems."
That's a clear sign of covetousness, resentment, immaturity, spite, rivalry, envy, and on. No need for any of that. That attitude from you is becoming clearer in your posts. Perhaps, that's why you and doneit had a little tirade just yesterday.
Surely there are many ways to deal with one problem. I found two as outlined in this thread. You seemingly found a third by using antibiotics that you post openly but condemn others for speaking of it. Along with the direct challenge to you above, find me solutions pre 2007 that would get rid of the slime as effective as my two discoveries and yours. (oh no I took credit again, shoot)
Don't skimp out to the two challenges. Correct me. I can handle it.
I have much respect for what you are trying to do. Don't get me wrong. But just because you can't personally find something, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The world is pretty large. I hope that your process helps out lots of growers. Thank you for your time. Going back and forth isn't going to help the community further. Now that all the information is posted, it is up to the viewer.
It sounds like you never cleaned your equipment and systems properly before. You may or may not find that your problem is or is not resistant to chlorine. Most likely it won't be. Here is a thread of mine that may be able to help you. Please understand that if you have to use these treatments, it is to be used for the equipment when you have a chlorine resistant pathogen and not intended to be used on plants used for food consumption. I feel like I should add this information to this thread in case it gets closed:
Get rid of “The Slime” aka “Brown Slime Algae” aka “Cyanobacteria”!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=267488
I’ve seen the slime many times throughout the years and have tried many things to eradicate it and now I found the secret. The Slime is known as Brown Slime Algae but don’t be fooled by the name because it is not an algae. People have thought for many years that it was an algae but electron microscapy has shown that it is actually a Cyanobacteria. Anyone who has had to deal with this slime knows how nasty this stuff is and it multiplies like crazy within 24 hours. The Slime comes from your drinking water and can be very hard to get rid of. Some people can get rid of it with a good Bleach or Physan20 but I’ve had the slime for years in 3 of my EZCloners and no matter how much Bleach or Physan 20 that I use, it just keeps on coming back stronger. Every time I get the slime I have to resort to going to the grow shop and buying a new easy cloner which is why I currently have 5 ezcloners. I believe that if you have the slime and you tried to clean it with Bleach or Physan 20 and it didn’t work, it is because the specific slime that you have has built up a resistance to chlorine. There are organic approaches in keeping the slime at bay but it is still there waiting for the opportunity to take hold of your plants.
Here's a couple of pictures of some cuts that have "The Slime":
Here are pictures of new cuts that came from the same EZ Cloner that was covered with Slime after I gave my Erythromycin treatments for 6 days (cuts were in the cloner for 10 days):
The slime looks like clear, brown or yellow snot. In this post, I will explain how to get rid of the slime forever. The first approach that I would suggest that you do is to quadruple the dosage of bleach or physan20 and run your cloner or equipment for 24 hours with the bleach or physan 20 after soaking the lid or equipment in the bathtub for 6 hours with bleach. If you continue to get the slime after that, then you will know that the slime that you have has become resistant to chlorine and you will have to take the more extreme measure.
Here is a picture of the Erythromycin product that I use:
The extreme measure that you may need to take is an antibiotic treatment and the antibiotic that I’m talking about is Erythromycin. If you must take this extreme measure, do not take this lightly. You do not want this slime building up a resistance to Erythromycin and becoming a Super Slime. You will also want to wear gloves, goggles, a mask and long sleeves so that you don’t inhale or get any erythromycin on you. You can buy Erythromycin at a store that sells exotic fish. You will need to give at least 4 treatments over 4 days and you will want to finish all 4 treatments so that the slime isn’t able to build up a resistance. If you are trying to clean out your cloner, it is important to take out the sprayers and clean out the inside of the manifold. I was surprised to see that inside one of my manifolds, there was slime everywhere. Take the manifold to the bathtub and fill it up with hot water and just keep shaking out the dreaded slime. You should know when it is all gone because when you fill the manifold up with water and turn it upside down, you will see water coming out of every hole where the sprayers were. If you still see a clog then that will be a sign that you still have slime in there. If the slime is stuck inside one of the sprayer holes, you can use a toothpick to stick in there to release the slime back into the manifold and then continue filling it up with hot water and shake the rest of it out. After you are done with washing everything out, you will want to unclog any sprayer and screw them back into the manifold and fill up the Cloner or equipment up with just water and add your first treatment of Erythromycin. You will continue to add your Erythromycin every 24 hours for at least the next 3 days but to be safe I would continue treatments for a total of 6 days. Make sure when you are treating your cloner or equipment that your pumps are turned on so it will clean the inside of the pump and manifold.
When you are done with your treatments, make sure that you throw out your neoprene collars and buy new ones to avoid possible contamination and also because the collars can hold the Erythromycin. You should also throw out any filters, tubing and air stones and replace them with new ones. Next you will want to dump out all of the water / Erythromycin solution and thoroughly wash out your cloner or equipment with water including the pump and manifold. Make sure to run your pump when you are cleaning it with water. Now you will be bacteria free and The Slime will be gone forever. From this point on, you should also consider using bottled water or boiling your water for 20 minutes on the stove and letting it come back to room temperature and only add back that water to the cloner to avoid getting another case of the slime.
Although I did my testing with clones in the cloner, it was just to see what the results were. I was amazed that the clones made it but I took all the clones and put them into the trash. I do not advise anyone to use Erythromycin on plants. It is up to us to make sure that our patients smoke quality products that contain no harmful products.
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Oh boy, the same strange attitude.
You didn't have to feel to post it in case the thread gets closed. I already linked your thread on the previous page 84 at post # 1253. No concern to be had brother. Here it is again.
I'll remove my request since you guys are intent to further bloat this thread.
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Using little boy terms to call names. How cute. I'm strongly assuming you wouldn't be looking for teas as you stated/promoted if you know that ZHO and root excel don't make sense. You know where I read that same discussion, at t-h-c-f-a-r-m-e-r where several guys promote and sell tea products there. Making the marketing rounds, a?
No wonder why you are so offended. You seek profit over giving. Acting like a nice guy offering a product to try that is gonna cost a pretty penny when a recipe is right here that can be had dirt ass cheap and has proof time and time again.
With your low post count for being a member from July 2013 and only since then, and your constant compelling need to come back here strongly implies to me you are a shill. Shill away if it makes you happy. Go ahead and bloat this thread further. Heisenberg is a plagiarizer and that is objectively speaking. Perhaps, if you were not to laze to read this entire thread you would know that.
Enjoy your inability to handle your emotions from people behind screens on keyboards.
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Be gone shill. Go back to t-h-c-f-a-r-m-e-r and managing your products website. You would know if it sells itself. You have to keep on throwing in the name every chance you get. Like I said, had you not been lazy and shilling, took the time to read the thread you would find several instances of me saying you could get away with just EWCs and a sugar product.
Whoa, whoring out cheap ass EWC and sugar, LOL. You can even use just EWC and great white. Or even better EWC and the super good and super cheap microbe blend at fungi.com that will have way more beneficials than what you are promoting and cheaper guaranteed.
That's right folks, get on over to www.fungi.com and look for the following. It's only $5.95 for an ounce. That will go a long way with a bag of EWC for $5 and a $3 dollar bucket. Oh damn it's going to hurt your business. Perhaps, you can buy your supply there to repackage for more money.
Credit goes to Jomofo for the tip off to the site.
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That should make you happy.
Hey people, want to spend unnecessary money, go on to skunklab instead of fungi.com.
Snypes,
Regardless, if you think the world is so big and somebody must of had a way, which I sure couldn't find on this huge worldwideweb, and I was desperate, nobody gave a damn to share it. If a cure existed somewhere you best believe it was bottle up for profit somewhere. You got that right, people here will decide for themselves.
How would you know if my posts are good or not. You don't take the time to read the entire thread here. Shilling involves popping in and out of threads so you wouldn't know. Perhaps if you were out of your teens or twenties your reading comprehension would be better.
If you are not a shill I apologize, but from my experience your actions indicate shill.
If you keep going in the direction that you are going, you are going to see why everyone has to change their usernames every so often because of how many people get banned here so easily. Your method of approach of this subject is going to start to turn off people. No one cares who came up with a method first. People only care about fixing their problems. There are many people that would rather buy a product from a store and not mix 10 different things themselves. It's just how things are in all the products that grow shops sell. We can make everything that the grow shop sells but most consumers don't want to make their own products. They prefer to buy them instead. Maybe take a step back and smoke a joint and continue your work tomorrow. I don't think you are seeing things clearly.
