A
Alone
Why not "Plumbers Crack". Or "Toe Cheeze"?
STRAIN NAMES
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blue green
There are soooooo many different corny names now, and sooo many companies selling the same or similar stuff that names don't mean anything.
nukklehead
Active member
Have a Satori crossed with an old Sour Jack ( some old mota freebies ) That will put you down after a big bong rip... All the peeps who dare enough to take that big bong rip go down on there knees to perform the TEBO ( sp?) ... So please dont take my name...
I am/have.................The TEBO!!!!!!!!
I am/have.................The TEBO!!!!!!!!
Have a Satori crossed with an old Sour Jack ( some old mota freebies ) That will put you down after a big bong rip... All the peeps who dare enough to take that big bong rip go down on there knees to perform the TEBO ( sp?) ... So please dont take my name...
I am/have.................The TEBO!!!!!!!!
Urbandictionary-
1. tebo
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TEBO#
to be pregnant
i got tebo by my boyfriend.
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Huh?
I'm dumb. HELP!
names are very important, take this for example...
it's lineage is (Trainwreck x Trinity) x [(Cleaner x Jack herer) x (Romulan x Cindy 99)]= Chernobyl and Chernobyl x Sour Bubble = The China Syndrome pictured above and thats not even as deep as it really goes seeing how the cleaner is quite the hybrid itself... then the Sour bubble which has its own somewhat un clear lineage
so what make more sense... in reality, calling the strain...
This...
{(Trainwreck x Trinity) x [(Cleaner x Jack herer) x (Romulan x Cindy 99)]} x Sour Bubble or....
This...
The China Syndrome
TGA's Chernobyl x BOG's Sour Bubble???
unless you think that all weed is the same, and you simply call it all weed... names are as every bit important as giving different names to different breeds of dog... instead of just calling them all DOG.
it's lineage is (Trainwreck x Trinity) x [(Cleaner x Jack herer) x (Romulan x Cindy 99)]= Chernobyl and Chernobyl x Sour Bubble = The China Syndrome pictured above and thats not even as deep as it really goes seeing how the cleaner is quite the hybrid itself... then the Sour bubble which has its own somewhat un clear lineage
so what make more sense... in reality, calling the strain...
This...
{(Trainwreck x Trinity) x [(Cleaner x Jack herer) x (Romulan x Cindy 99)]} x Sour Bubble or....
This...
The China Syndrome
TGA's Chernobyl x BOG's Sour Bubble???
unless you think that all weed is the same, and you simply call it all weed... names are as every bit important as giving different names to different breeds of dog... instead of just calling them all DOG.
basicly, folks are gettin ripped off HARD (in my opinion). i remember the days (199x) when the dutch "seedbanks" still offered quality... once the laws changed and the seedproduction/"breeding" stopped, it all went downhill, then the big US revival started with the "medical" stuff, and nowdays, the huge part of "comercial/retail" seeds are just polyhybrids and mongrels. basicly, folks cross hybrids with hybrids, grow couple of beans, find 1 in 10 or whatever plants, take a picture of it, and sell the beanz under the impression of selling a stabilized cross where uniformity should be expected....
but hey, let's be honest, it's still an illegal cultivar, with a huge profit in that black market -> scammers heaven...
blessss
ps.: the real sad thing is, muppets who don't know shit about horticulture/biology/genetix pose up like some masterminds/breeders and keep on polluting the genepool, with the same polyhybrids under 1000 different names (see: skunk #1/cheese/rks/lemon skunk/...)
but hey, let's be honest, it's still an illegal cultivar, with a huge profit in that black market -> scammers heaven...
blessss
ps.: the real sad thing is, muppets who don't know shit about horticulture/biology/genetix pose up like some masterminds/breeders and keep on polluting the genepool, with the same polyhybrids under 1000 different names (see: skunk #1/cheese/rks/lemon skunk/...)
B
blue green
Well, a dog that is an unknown mix is just a mongrel.
I understand that names are just a way of telling things apart, but i think there are soooo many 'mongrel' strains that have soooo many expressions that if you mixed up a bag of seeds from several mongrel strains and grew them out together no-one would be able to tell which 'strain' is which.
That is what i meant about strain names being pointless a lot of the time.
Not that i have a better idea though.... people selling seeds need to label their seeds somehow, i guess.
(sorry purple man, i was basically trying to say what you were saying, but less eloquently)
A product name is often dependent on what demographic the seller is targeting. For example names such as: Purple Monkey Balls, or anything with Alien in it's name, would be targeting Teenagers or those in their early 20's.
R.Fortune
R.Fortune
bruceinpacifica
Member
I think I have to agree that genetics are being watered down.
The strains from the mid to late 60's would put your unit in the dirt, at least me anyway.
What's availkable & what I grow today just doesn't seem as strong and/or spacey.
Maybe it's my metabolism.
Cheers
The strains from the mid to late 60's would put your unit in the dirt, at least me anyway.
What's availkable & what I grow today just doesn't seem as strong and/or spacey.
Maybe it's my metabolism.
Cheers
I have to disagree with Bruce. Potency has increased dramatically with hybirdization. Yes, there were a handful of potent landraces, but most of the herb of 20-30 years ago couldn't hold up to what's available today. The purists will insist hybrids "water down the gene pool". Truth is mankind and mother nature have been manipulating the landraces since the beginning.
Viewpoints are starting to change. Most of today's growers want a variety of phenotype expressions to explore. IMHO a good hybrid will produce mostly homoginous offspring with traits of both of the parentals, as well as a few surprises.
Viewpoints are starting to change. Most of today's growers want a variety of phenotype expressions to explore. IMHO a good hybrid will produce mostly homoginous offspring with traits of both of the parentals, as well as a few surprises.
B
blue green
I don't know about the potency of then versus now, what i was trying to say is that if everyone tried to come up with a 'cool' name for every single polyhybrid cross that was ever made, the names become a little pointless.
bruceinpacifica
Member
I agree in regards to the average strain comparison of back then & now. But what I was refering to is those standout landrace strains not the average mex. brick full of seeds.
I should have been clearer.
Cheers
One big difference I see with today's strains vs. those of yester-year is yes, they are more potent, but they're missing alot of the subtle nuanced effects we came to love back then. I can't remember the last time I smoked a strain that gave me the giggles, trails or any other visual effects.
I've started collecting a variety of Skunk genetics, hoping to find one of those
happy old school phenos we called "party pot".
The most potent isn't always the best, but that's what most ppl are looking for these days.
I've started collecting a variety of Skunk genetics, hoping to find one of those
happy old school phenos we called "party pot".
The most potent isn't always the best, but that's what most ppl are looking for these days.
Just one old smokers opinion
Just one old smokers opinion
As far as the new V.S. the old I have an intimate experience with both as in the recent past I’ve grown and smoked both side by side. For me I like both but I must say if given a choice I would have to stick with the old school Colombian sativa. Most (not all) of the modern strains I’ve had are more potent and the taste is sweeter with a more “refined” flavor, however the overall effect is lacking compared to the nasty looking pure sativa. The two buds in the picture were both grown outdoors (not by me this time) in the central highlands of Colombia but that’s where the similarity ends. The bud on the left is from “imported” white widow genetics and smokes just like a seed vendor’s description. It has very good “bag appeal” with frosty sticky buds and a nice manicure. Not much smell but it’s there and the taste is just like the smell almost not there. However the effect is there and really hits me hard, two or three good hits and I’m set, more than that and it knocks me out. The widow has a slight creeper effect that comes on about 5 to 10 minutes after burning the effect is not really soaring or intensely euphoric but it’s overpowering and long lasting with a somewhat clean exit. The White widow is no doubt much “stronger” than the sativa but it has a low ceiling and a quick tolerance build up. Now on the other hand there is this raggedy looking traditionally cured domestic (Colombian) sativa. I can honestly say (having smoked Colombian in the 70s) that this strain has not been changed or inter bred with outside genetics since the 70s at least. She has no “modern” bag appeal; there is no frost and no manicure. It’s pressed and the little bud a little flat with full seeds (viable). The smell takes me back in time and tells me more about the effect; it’s not sweet or fruity at all. The taste is the same as the smell, straight up lumbo no doubt. Now the effect is where this stuff shines. I have to smoke a little more of this to get to where I want to be but I can feel it with just one hit. I take maybe six or seven hits of this and I feel it a little but not really but after 15 to 20 minutes I get the full effect. A warming rush of euphoria fills your body and your mood changes making almost any situation seem better. This warm feeling continues to grow to the point of giggles sometimes, my heart starts racing but I’m very calm and relaxed. There is a little motivation but really it makes me want to do thing on the couch or in bed, it’s not sleepy at all. I get ideas but I’m too lazy to write them down before I forget them. After a couple hours the effect tapers off to nothing leaving fresh and feeling good. Now here’s the main difference to me between the two strains, the sativa has no (known) ceiling and a very slow if any tolerance build up and I get the same fantastic high with every encounter. The sativa is nowhere as potent as the WW but it has a better effect and no ceiling or tolerance, IMHO the sativa is a much better deal all the way around.
Colombian Grown White Widow VS OLD school Sativa!
Peace from Colombia!
Just one old smokers opinion
As far as the new V.S. the old I have an intimate experience with both as in the recent past I’ve grown and smoked both side by side. For me I like both but I must say if given a choice I would have to stick with the old school Colombian sativa. Most (not all) of the modern strains I’ve had are more potent and the taste is sweeter with a more “refined” flavor, however the overall effect is lacking compared to the nasty looking pure sativa. The two buds in the picture were both grown outdoors (not by me this time) in the central highlands of Colombia but that’s where the similarity ends. The bud on the left is from “imported” white widow genetics and smokes just like a seed vendor’s description. It has very good “bag appeal” with frosty sticky buds and a nice manicure. Not much smell but it’s there and the taste is just like the smell almost not there. However the effect is there and really hits me hard, two or three good hits and I’m set, more than that and it knocks me out. The widow has a slight creeper effect that comes on about 5 to 10 minutes after burning the effect is not really soaring or intensely euphoric but it’s overpowering and long lasting with a somewhat clean exit. The White widow is no doubt much “stronger” than the sativa but it has a low ceiling and a quick tolerance build up. Now on the other hand there is this raggedy looking traditionally cured domestic (Colombian) sativa. I can honestly say (having smoked Colombian in the 70s) that this strain has not been changed or inter bred with outside genetics since the 70s at least. She has no “modern” bag appeal; there is no frost and no manicure. It’s pressed and the little bud a little flat with full seeds (viable). The smell takes me back in time and tells me more about the effect; it’s not sweet or fruity at all. The taste is the same as the smell, straight up lumbo no doubt. Now the effect is where this stuff shines. I have to smoke a little more of this to get to where I want to be but I can feel it with just one hit. I take maybe six or seven hits of this and I feel it a little but not really but after 15 to 20 minutes I get the full effect. A warming rush of euphoria fills your body and your mood changes making almost any situation seem better. This warm feeling continues to grow to the point of giggles sometimes, my heart starts racing but I’m very calm and relaxed. There is a little motivation but really it makes me want to do thing on the couch or in bed, it’s not sleepy at all. I get ideas but I’m too lazy to write them down before I forget them. After a couple hours the effect tapers off to nothing leaving fresh and feeling good. Now here’s the main difference to me between the two strains, the sativa has no (known) ceiling and a very slow if any tolerance build up and I get the same fantastic high with every encounter. The sativa is nowhere as potent as the WW but it has a better effect and no ceiling or tolerance, IMHO the sativa is a much better deal all the way around.
Colombian Grown White Widow VS OLD school Sativa!
Peace from Colombia!
A
Alone
I totally agree.
I just grew a crop of Critical+ = Skunk#1 x BigBud.
It stinks out a whole room with that old school skunk smell that really brings the "real heads" back, way back, to the early 80's.
Just this morning I had a nug on me in a med vial and opened it up for 3 seconds then closed it while in my pocket.
The puertoricans that were near me mentioned that the smell was like that old-school skunk they remembered and havent smelled that in along time. I then left the lobby promptly before the security gaurds started sniffing down the source. LOL.
Its not the most potent, but sure is enjoyable to smoke. Those subtle nuences in the effect of her makes me feel like a teenager again.
I myself am looking to expand on a collection of Skunk genetics. I want the older versions. Im sure they are hard to come by these days.
I have a cut called Island Sweet Skunk.. Don't know the origins really and it's not really a skunk, but of all the strains we have it's the most old school tasting I have had. Remember however, old school for me is before the green nasty took over the country in the late 70's...
Mr. Grimbo smokes his pot, cured brown...
Mr. Grimbo smokes his pot, cured brown...
Hey Mr Grimbo, M. Emery was hyping ISS as Vancouver's "best of the best" back in 2004/05, said it was the perfect party weed, social/upbeat/happy, and it reminded him of summertime.
As for the brown vs. green debate, you'll recall that pretty much all of the weed in the 70's was brown, and occasionally gold or red. But once in a while there was that pale lime green indoor sensi from Cali, and that shit was deadly potent. But as strong as it was, it seemed to be missing some of the elements of being high we were used to.
The weed scene is always evolving. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes thru a retro phase. Now that I think about it, Retro would be a great name for an old school strain!
As for the brown vs. green debate, you'll recall that pretty much all of the weed in the 70's was brown, and occasionally gold or red. But once in a while there was that pale lime green indoor sensi from Cali, and that shit was deadly potent. But as strong as it was, it seemed to be missing some of the elements of being high we were used to.
The weed scene is always evolving. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes thru a retro phase. Now that I think about it, Retro would be a great name for an old school strain!
Well, I gotta' admit as much as I hated the weed in the 80's.. overpriced and like you said, it just didn't do what I was used to after having gold for so many years... I am absolutly supportive of this "new school" I have found in the last ten years or so. The cuts, the variety, and I still have the option to slow moist cure in jars to "rot" out all of the green for lack of a better term...
My guys have some great varieties however I just got the news yesterday, "Mr. Nice" which was by far the most tastey in the bunch, has been lost to root rot and wasn't backed up.
Mr. Grimbo
