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Stoned drivers are a lot safer than drunk ones, new federal data show

RetroGrow

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Turns out driving stoned is safer than driving drunk. But we all knew that:

"A new study from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration finds that drivers who use marijuana are at a significantly lower risk for a crash than drivers who use alcohol. And after adjusting for age, gender, race and alcohol use, drivers who tested positive for marijuana were no more likely to crash than who had not used any drugs or alcohol prior to driving.

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The chart above tells the story. For marijuana, and for a number of other legal and illegal drugs including antidepressants, painkillers, stimulants and the like, there is no statistically significant change in the risk of a crash associated with using that drug prior to driving. But overall alcohol use, measured at a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) threshold of 0.05 or above, increases your odds of a wreck nearly seven-fold.

The study's findings underscore an important point: that the measurable presence of THC (marijuana's primary active ingredient) in a person's system doesn't correlate with impairment in the same way that blood alcohol concentration does. The NHTSA doesn't mince words: "At the current time, specific drug concentration levels cannot be reliably equated with a specific degree of driver impairment."

There are a whole host of factors why detectable drug presence doesn't indicate impairment the way it does with alcohol. "Most psychoactive drugs are chemically complex molecules, whose absorption, action, and elimination from the body are difficult to predict," the report authors write, "and considerable differences exist between individuals with regard to the rates with which these processes occur. Alcohol, in comparison, is more predictable." In heavy marijuana users, measurable amounts of THC can be detectable in the body days or even weeks after the last use, and long after any psychoactive effects remain.

Several states have passed laws attempting to define "marijuana-impaired driving" similarly to drunk driving. Colorado, for instance, sets a blood THC threshold of 0.5 nanograms per milliliter. But that number tells us next to nothing about whether a person is impaired or fit to drive. The implication is that these states are locking up people who are perfectly sober.

A companion study released by the NHTSA identified a sharp jump in the number of weekend night-time drivers testing positive for THC between 2007 and 2013/2014, from 8.6 percent to 12.6 percent. Numbers like these are alarming at first glance. They generate plenty of thoughtless media coverage. They're used by marijuana legalization opponents to conjure up the bogeyman of legions of stoned drivers menacing the nation's roads.

But all these numbers really tell us is that more people are using marijuana at some point in the days or weeks before they drive. With legalization fully underway in several states, there's nothing surprising about this. "The change in use may reflect the emergence of a new trend in the country that warrants monitoring," the NHTSA study concludes.

So, should we all assume that we're safe to blaze one and go for a joyride whenever the whimsy strikes us? Absolutely not. There's plenty of evidence showing that marijuana use impairs key driving skills. If you get really stoned and then get behind the wheel, you're asking for trouble.

What we do need, however, are better roadside mechanisms for detecting marijuana-related impairment. Several companies are developing pot breathalyzers for this purpose.

We also need a lot more research into the effects of marijuana use on driving ability, particularly to get a better sense of how pot's effect on driving diminishes in the hours after using. But this kind of research remains incredibly difficult to do, primarily because the federal government still classifies weed as a Schedule 1 substance, as dangerous as heroin.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...es-new-federal-data-show/?tid=pm_business_pop
 

armedoldhippy

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Kind of incredible seeing the feds put this out.

don't worry. some idiot like Kevin Sabet will be along any minute now to let us all know where all of the information exposed there is incorrect. EVERYONE knows that potheads hit & kill people every day...
 

armedoldhippy

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I've driven after smoking for over forty years. my wife and children, as well as all of my friends, prefer me to have a buzz behind the wheel. police officers that I know have told me that they much prefer folks to smoke instead of drink if they are going out. I drive on average around ten to fifteen mph slower when high versus straight. (I drive slower when drinking too, but that's another story) as one of those type-A personality SOBs that you don't want behind you on a two-lane road, I freely admit my faults. I am in too big of a hurry for some subconscious reason, competitive for no fucking reason at all unless self-medicated. then, I become the guy that flashes his lights to let folks know to pull out, merge, watch for radar/wrecks, etc. I pull over & escort snakes, turtles, and ducks out of the road. I am not saying everyone should do this, but it works for me. JMHO
 

420somewhere

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Just about fits me to a Tee...

Just about fits me to a Tee...

I've driven after smoking for over forty years. my wife and children, as well as all of my friends, prefer me to have a buzz behind the wheel. police officers that I know have told me that they much prefer folks to smoke instead of drink if they are going out. I drive on average around ten to fifteen mph slower when high versus straight. (I drive slower when drinking too, but that's another story) as one of those type-A personality SOBs that you don't want behind you on a two-lane road, I freely admit my faults. I am in too big of a hurry for some subconscious reason, competitive for no fucking reason at all unless self-medicated. then, I become the guy that flashes his lights to let folks know to pull out, merge, watch for radar/wrecks, etc. I pull over & escort snakes, turtles, and ducks out of the road. I am not saying everyone should do this, but it works for me. JMHO

I should have gotten a hundred Alcohol DUI's over the years but I was never stopped.

I don't drink any more but I'm smoking up a storm.

When I was younger the best place to smoke was cruising down the road.

I almost got stopped smoking a joint about twenty years ago. I was driving my 454 Suburban down the road after getting off work at the Rocket Factory smoking a joint and I see a Police Car and I see one cop staring right a me.
So I eat the joint and rolled down my back window (electric) which blows all of the smoke in my car out the front windows.

They didn't see that and they made a U-turn. The one cop stuck his head way out of the car trying to catch a wiff....

I guess they didn't smell anything as they just continued on thier way.
:party:
 

oldchuck

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I have seen two headlines about this study that said the exact opposite: that Cannabis CAUSES MORE crashes. One was USA today and the other was in some Utah paper. Prohibitionists are still at it.
 
I think people just don't know their limits most of the time. Regardless of the substance when we get behind the wheel of a car people's lives are at stake. If everyone was more self aware, shit people wouldn't get in a car and fall asleep behind the wheel.
 
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