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mysticls

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anyone dabble in the market?? i used to play with stocks years ago and than real estate started booming so i put my $$ into real estate.. now real estate is dead so I am going to start playing again :D anyone read any good books lately?? i am reading Rule #1: The Simple Strategy for Successful Investing in Only 15 Minutes a Week!
 

Dr Dog

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I follow the markets
I took a course years back in the stock market

I dont see how real estate is dead. Sure it is more of a buyers market and there is an issue with bank foreclosures, but lots of cheap properties to be had

This is when you increase your portfolio for cheap, and when the market turns around( and it will, people need a place to live) you will be a slum lord for sure!!

To quote Lex Luthor ine Superman Returns. "The most valuable thing is Real estate, it is the one thing they are not making anymore"
 

NOKUY

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real estate will never be dead.

it's the only commodity that there is only so much of (they cant make more), and therfore will always be in demand.

i have a head for stocks, but have been scared to jump in...prolly never will with stocks, but will invest in land in alaska...cuz you peeps will all wish you had alaska land someday.
 

mysticls

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well the real estate market is really slow right now, yes its a great time to buy but one can only buy so much and acquire so much debt and still live in their means. I have some extra cash and I am gonna play around in the stock market a bit. Been doing a lot of reading with this guys book and doing a bunch of research online and seems to have a pretty solid plan. I am gonna invest a grand and follow his steps / thoughts and see where it ends me..


www.ruleoneinvestor.com
 

TNTBudSticker

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Real estate in the stock market ?

No such thing....

Unless you want something tied to Real Estate which is still going down and no bottom yet...Interest Rates are still being cut,writedowns in the billions are showing up.

The DOW is down Double Digits this year,,,,,I'm up Double Digits right now.

Hitting close to 20% this Year.Unless I get out right now and sit in cash and find something to tickle me silly then I'll use less cash to invest...U.S.A is paying 3% or less for having a savings account which is not very good return on your cash.
 
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TNTBudSticker said:
Hitting close to 20% this Year.
:badday: It's too bad that 20% is inflation. here is a link to a short video on price vs. value.
 
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TNTBudSticker

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Shenanigans said:
:badday: It's too bad that 20% is inflation. here is a link to a short video on price vs. value.

Gimme inflation...I'll make money...Gimme recession,I'll make money

I'm UP exactly 19% percent in one month...not bad for a month work

My best gains ?? My $52.00 stock went to $85.00 per share and thats just one stock,or my $6.52 went to $13.05 and still rising.

I eat weed too.

As Ron White says "You can't Fix Stupid"
 
It's a tough market to jump into right now, esp. with the dollar being as weak as it is. I invested in a variety of mutual accounts and did pretty well for myself, but who cares since it's a long term plan anyway.
 

mysticls

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TNTBudSticker said:
Real estate in the stock market ?

No such thing....

Unless you want something tied to Real Estate which is still going down and no bottom yet...Interest Rates are still being cut,writedowns in the billions are showing up.


lol.. real estate in the stock market? i was saying that i used to dabble in the stock market and than the real estate market started booming so i got into that and now that the real estate market has slowed down a lot i am starting to get back into the stock market
 

mysticls

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TopoftheTree said:
It's a tough market to jump into right now, esp. with the dollar being as weak as it is. I invested in a variety of mutual accounts and did pretty well for myself, but who cares since it's a long term plan anyway.


mutual funds are okay i guess... i dont see a point working 50+ hrs a week, saving as much $$ as i can.. just so i can sign a check to some 'big wig mutual fund guy' and hope he invest my $$ wisely..

i'd much rather do my own research, get my own info, and base my investment decisions on what i see.. not what some one else see's
 

TNTBudSticker

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I was reading a book where some guy spend $2500 for 100 Mutual funds and only 3 Made him money...so careful there,They do take money away from your gains.

MadMoney By Jim Cramer is a Good Book,( he has 3 books out)he tells about the mistakes he made.

This guy Lost $400 Million dollars but made $525 Million.Made 30% every year for 15 years after Costs.

If Invested in Wal-Mart when it first came out...your $10,000 becomes $30,000,000 or was it $300,000,000.

You can buy Stocks online for $7.00 per trade...

Is it good to get back inside the Market? Hard to tell Right now,most,some are sitting in cash right now,,,just waiting for the right time.

You Should have got in back in may,june 2006 when it took off...BUT really depends on your stocks,companies.

Since housing,Real Estate is weak,,,Homebuilders,Home Improvement are at their lows right now and (IT) could be a good time to jump...BUT Not all cash...invest 1/5 per position then buy more later...(HD,LOW) Home depot,Lowes

Most folks go all in....worst way to lose money.

You can buy direct from a good company and save money there.

I smell Oil someplace... :::Sniff:: Yup,,,It's Oil !!
 

Carbon

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Check out Alan Greenspan's book The Age of Turbulence. It's GOOD! He sums up that all things being equal and there is no drastic shock to the markets that there will be a return to inflationary times, increased conceptualization of the economy and a whole bunch of other stuff. The book is really good and very relevant.

Also think of scenarios of the future that are negative, generally a continuation of the same, or a really improved future eden. Invest according to those scenarios. For example if there is a war what will happen? What happens if things just move along and evolve slowly? If bio technology works to improve the worlds food supply and decrease disease. Investors can invest for shocks but it is hard to have the capital to properly invest in a number of sectors that will give you a proper portfolio. For instance one hundred shares of a $100 stock is ten thousand dollars and that only represents one organization in one sector. The best think I can recommend if you want to dabble in the markets is really believe in what you are BUYING or SELLING. If you love something and believe in it, find the market leader in that product or service and make sure it has global reach.

I have found from my forays that the hard part is knowing that once I have paid the market price for a piece of a company, I have a certain portion of the company. My money is nothing now. I own a bit of a company and that company is in a shit storm of competing factors that will cause its value to move around. I try not to look at the stock price too often because it just causes tones of anxiety.

There is a lot of tactics getting in and out of positions also. Usually a trader will only put down a fraction of his capital on the first trade and then execute further trades according to the movement of the stock. From what I understand finance is evolving very rapidly and if I were to want to by real estate I could buy it on the financial markets for instance the Dow Jones real estate index or a number of similar products.

Getting into future contracts and options and shorting bonds cause the rates are going up all can make serious money or loose serious money. People get their heads handed back to them all the time. It's too much fun!

Also when you are feeling flush and happy and start threads it's probably time to take some profits and move along and don't think you can out smart the pros cause they are at the screen all day every day with twitchy trigger fingers and they don't care who they run over for a buck.

Sorry for the long rant, I do this to my friends and family all to often and they just look at me like I'm talking gibberish.

Do you know any other forums for this kind of thing?
 
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mysticls said:
mutual funds are okay i guess... i dont see a point working 50+ hrs a week, saving as much $$ as i can.. just so i can sign a check to some 'big wig mutual fund guy' and hope he invest my $$ wisely..

i'd much rather do my own research, get my own info, and base my investment decisions on what i see.. not what some one else see's


True but when you
a) trust the guy who's investing your shit (close family friend)

b) are young and can afford to wait 20-30 years for your investment to mature and settle

you're set. I dont know, this works for me, but if you're looking for quick money then you're definitely right. Research it yourself and invest in something you deem fit and you could make some quick money. If time isn't of the essence there are other options.
 

HerbMan26

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I swing trade forex but i've been watching GOOG and i'm gonna go all out with my buy and hold portfolio when it hits the bottom. Real estate is really weak right now and is it going to rally? it sure will, but its going to take a while before investors feel comfortable enough to jump back in.Until then i'm staying away from Real estate or related industry and find better use for my capital. Does anyone here trade forex? And to answer your question about books, Common Stocks And Uncommon Profits" by Phillip A. Fisher.
 

TNTBudSticker

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GOOG is NOT a good time to be in because Tech is selling ( Went down $15.00 today) Even Yahoo is down and the rest of the Tech sector

HD- HomeDepot $27.75 to $28.50 today on a semi-good housing report

You can do Scottrade online for $7.00 a trade with $500 in your account...


VISA IPO is coming out SOON....Long waited IPO

For Comparison..Look at MA ( Mastercard) ....Not to say Visa will do the same thing.Since it's gonna be the largest IPO in History at 20 Billion U.S.A

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/25/ap4691274.html?boxes=topstories
 

TNTBudSticker

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Needed to say that TECH like Microsoft,Apple,AMD,Intel is a better time to buy in the Summer or at the end of Summer since folks are gearing up for Christmas.Alot of everyone is selling Now...The Big Boys booked their profits and are long gone now.
 

minds_I

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Hello all,

I think some bear plays are good for now, list till the talk of ressession or even stagflation change and a bull market takes over.

I am down with investing in china developement as well as India and Brazil.

I am down with 20% in gold and gold mining stocks (GLD and AUY)

I am down with McDonalds (MCD) and YUM foods. As well as Pepsi (PEP).

I have 20% in Research In Motion (rim) and I am down with google. Google may rebound if yahoo/micrsoft merger gets difficult and spendy.

I also think ag plays are good both the equipment and the fertilizer companies are looking good.

Also, the energy sector in coal is looking good from what I have read lately.

Do not misunderstand, I just read this stuff on Marketwatch. I also watch CNBC...good info there.

minds_I
 

dbuzz

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don't bother, unless you have few hundro thous dollars...find some other assets. look into roth IRA.
 

TNTBudSticker

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Wow...Did ya see Google -GOOG today ?? A $40.00 drop today AND yesterday,close to $100..YIKES!


Google didn't file their quarterly reports for the last 2 years until last quarter or two. ( Old News)

Buddy of mine got out at $700 and still has a few shares around the $300 mark

Wonder if he's gonna get out if it passes his benchmark or if GOOG goes under $400?

I like stocks under $10.00 and Yes China stocks were on fire the last few months because of the Olympics.

minds_I...Those are cool stocks...YUM,PEP paying dividends stocks,,,brings the cost basic down.Food stocks as long people still eat,drink.

Wow..just in....... Google today confirmed reports that it is building an undersea fiber optic cable that will link the U.S. and Japan for $300 million.

I'm not Hot on GOOG at all... :joint: Wonder if the news will help Google

I like the Ferts sector too...On Fire !!! It's HOT BABY ! ITS HOT !!
 

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