stick thru base of stem before harvest?

[Bass Akwards]

Screw the yield, go for the goo.

Any healthy soil grown plant should have enough stored in the leaves, and available at the roots, to last for two weeks.

( ... and water too, for that matter ... )

Stress works.

The trick is to apply enough of it.

No more bio-hypnotic "Happy Plant Hoo-Doo".

Slap those plants around and show 'em who's boss.

The easiest way to stress a soil grow is purely mechanical.

Gradually restrict water by constricting the Xylem tubes that run up the outside of the stalk.

It's quick, easy, inexpensive, mechanically quantifiable, and ... reusable.

Ladies and gentlemen, I now present for your enjoyment and amazement: "The Hose Clamp".

They come in every size you'll need, and can apply pressure evenly around the stalk so it's getting tighter and tighter as it's turned every few days.

Let them exhaust the large leaves, let them wilt and turn strange colors, make them squirm.

Do a side-by-side test and see for yourself.

 

[BongCalledYoda]

People who slap around their plants before harvest have NO LOVE FOR THE GANJA! You put all that time into it and you are willing to beat it up in the hopes that it makes it stickier? Grow the strain you want, with the desired characteristics and you shouldn't have to try any misinformed technique... and Every time I have heard of this, people do it to all the plants they have growing, which means that they have no comparison to how great it would have been without the torture.....

 

[BongCalledYoda]

if you want sticky go with a dehumidifier. that will increase resin on the bud sites without the added stress.......just my opinion though, even though I have discussed it with some very well versed growers QUALITY ABOVE ALL ELSE

 

[stoned16]

I read this in a book where native n.z maoris growing herb would drive a nail in a week or two before harvest and purposely treat the plants like crap to stress them into giving more resin...this was in the 80's i think...books called jesus weed(good book)...seems like an odd way to produce more resin!any thoughts from the pros?

 

[baet]

yeah we're not going to do this.
i dont like the idea of beating up my plant, and i really dont want to lose yield.
but thanks for all the comments.
ive been pinching stems and supercropping and LSTing, that mite cause a little stress for more potency, or atleast better nutrient uptake.
i could use humboldt co snow storm for resin, it stresses the plant into producing more resin without haluting growth and maturation. but prolly not, its expensive. prolly just use liquid budswell, with my ageold bloom and EJ bloom and meta K.

 

[Bass Akwards]

Hogwash and hooey ...

Hogwash and hooey ...

if you want sticky go with a dehumidifier. that will increase resin on the bud sites without the added stress.......just my opinion though, ...

How exactly do you propose using a dehumidifier outside?

( In case you hadn't noticed, this is an Outdoor growing thread. )

Why exactly will using a dehumidifier indoors increase resin? It's increasing the stress, doofus!

Low levels of moisture in the air is stressfull! Water stress is scientifically proven to increase levels of THC and other cannabinoids.

This applies across the board to any strain or genetic population, whether cultivated or feral.

If you really wanted to avoid stressing your plants, you'd allow them to reproduce and smoke seeded bud!

Growing seedless plants, not allowing them to act "naturally" is a major stressor! Think about it!

You're already using one stressing technique by growing sinsemilla.

Why not stress the plants a little more and get a different set of cannabinoids?

Water stress is just one of several techniques to stress a plant outdoors.

( Indoor plants can be set off plumb ... tilted with a piece of 1x2 set under the container. )

Chemical stressors, via companion planting or otherwise, are an esoteric pursuit best left to the experts.

 

[Bass Akwards]

Just for the record ...

Just for the record ...

Though the original reasons for doing so were incorrect, there's at least one good reason to dunk the roots of a harvested plant into boiling water.

It won't make the plant material any stronger, or produce more resin, but it will substantially affect the taste by slowing down the drying/curing process.

Back in the misty past, when homegrown really tasted homegrown, there was a lot more emphasis on proper curing. One reason for this was that people actually smoked, and sold, the leaf ... all of it. Every little bit.

It was a fairly simple operation to build a small fire under a galvanized wash basin, dig up the 8 -10 footers, shake off most of the dirt from the roots, and dunk them for a minute or two. Then they were hauled to a shed and hung up to dry. This shock therapy caused the stomata's of the leaves to slam closed, and substantially slowed transpiration. The slower the cure, the better the taste, especially the taste of the leaf.

 

[ArcticBlast]

i thought this is how they made "gold" weed back in the 70's? They put a nail or a stick through the stem towards the end of flowering? Either way, i wouldnt do it

ArcticBlast

 

[Weedman Herb]

sry bro, but this is some old wise tail that an old hippie told you, it wont work. but good luck!

Without those hippies you wouldn't be doing what you are now ... Believe that. The old "hippy" I heard it from was Ed Rosenthal. How do you know it won't work if you've never tried it? I think the Ignorant are trying to sound profound here ... They don't understand it so they are scared and will try to kill it ... just drive a nail or 2 through the stalk or bind it Tight with bailing wire and find out ... or better yet Break/Cut the main stalk half way through a week or so before harvest while supporting it ... and krunchbubble ... that's an "Old Wives Tale" not an "Old Wise Tale" LMMFAO ... y'all can't even get your sayings right ... there is method to this madness ...

 

[BongCalledYoda]

Mr Bassakwards.... I had not noticed it was an outdoor thread and apologize for the dehumidifier comment in that regard, but indoor it makes the buds produce more resin to cover the bud sites and protect them from a harsh climate.... And climate stress is not even in the same ballpark as crucifixion bro...

 

[baet]

i agree that the stress produced from a nail or knife probably would produce a little more resin, maybe more potency maybe. and i actually mite try it on one of my plants, side by side, why not. theres a lot of evidence for it, but the opposition doesnt seem like theyve tried it yet. i dont like the idea, but the results make some sense.
im sure if it worked magic, more people would know about it and be talking about it, and be practicing this technique, i think theres pros and cons for doing it, loss of yield and likelihood of herm with some strains are the cons.
so it'll probably remain and old hippie technique, no disrespect

 

[ReeferRon]

I tell ya what. I've put some thought into it, and I'm willing to do a "stoner" double blind study and check the validity of the technique first hand. I being an open minded and willing participant for anything that produces higher quality herb. I have a pretty nice little camera so I would also be willing to start a thread and document the entire procedure from cuts too harvest. I will need 2-3 weeks to free up some space and get my ducks in a row, but I will try anything twice....

Would anybody be interested in following something like this? If so let me know. Like I said I would need a little time to prepare and we could use this thread to decide which of my cuts I should use and suggestions about how to go about said experiment.

Any questions about my genetics or set up just ask and feel free to jump in with recommendations and tips!

Now its got my blood flowin!

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

IMO, it sounds like one of the dumbest things you could do to your plant, ever.

 

[ReeferRon]

IMO, it sounds like one of the dumbest things you could do to your plant, ever.

Perhaps if you had one plant... what if you had 60? Would you risk one or two for the cause? If not, your close mindedness amazes me. Have to be open to a multitude of ideas to be a true thinker...IMO.

 

[baet]

reefer ron start a thread my friend, side by side, same genetics same everything, id watch every bit of it!
what genetics do you have to work with, and indoor outdoor? i think any genetics would be fine, just get sum cuts and get it going.

i think it mite be a little rediculous, but not stupid, and i hear people saying similar techniques are improving resin and potency.

 

[exploziv]

I'll try this as a comparison between 2 similar outdoor plants of same strain.

 

[supersonic]

Pruning branches and manipulating stems
(Starks, Michael: Marijuana Chemistry, genetics, processing, potency. Berkely, California, 1970). 31-32.

Pruning the top of mj plants is custom in Brazil. But in the Bengal area of India, the lower branches are removed when the plants are about 3 minths old. The Nepalese supposedly trim the tips, remove the large leaves and shake the plant from time to time; the resulting mass of twisted leaves and flowers is called latta, probably very similar to the colas of mature sensumilla.

Splitting the base is another practice believed to increase potency. In India farmers reportedly twist the base of stems or the flowering tops sometime before harvest. In Mysore they twist the stem of the 2 months old plant, then bend it horizontaly and sometimes tie it in that poosition to encourage side branches. Still another custom, reportedly practice by Burmese is to split the stem about a month before maturity and insert a piece of wood, then gather together the flowering tops and push them into basket. The basket is inverted over the tops and left there for final month of flowering.

In Mexico, farmers insert a slivers of acote (type of pine) through the root of plant below ground level when the plant is about 4 feet high. They claim that these prevent formation of seeds and give mj a pine flavour, both highly unlikely.

In some parts of Western Himalaya, the plants are stripped of all or nearly of all of their leaves in order to stimulate the formation of numerous small, leafy shoots. These shoots are supposed to be stronger than the old foliage. While no experiemntal work has been reported on this point, it certainly seems worth investigating.

The Tepehua of Oaxaca, Mexico produce extremely potent mj by growing the plant in hostile environment and by severe pruning. They pinch of the shoot tips of young seedling, thus removing the apical meristem with its high concentration of auxins (plant grow hormons). This leads to the production of many lateral meristems (side shoots). The new lateral meristems are pruned once a week to produce a small urn shaped bush. Shoots that would ordinary fill the interior of this urn are also removed. The exterior looks almost crystaline due to heavy resin accumulation and many plants develop a red pigmentation. The leaves change from the ordinary palmate shape to verticillate or whorled (like the spokes of a wheel) balls of entire ( smooth edged) leaves and abortive (incomplete or immature) flowers. When the blood like colour begins to appear, two wooden splinters are inserted through a stem just above the ground at right angles to each other. At present there is no evidence that this latter practice has any effect on potency but it is interesting that the stems are similary bruised or impailed by various Asian farmers.

To sum up, though many people around the world prune mj plants or split their stems, there is no scientific proof that these practices increase potency.
However as discussed latter, any kind of stress tends to increase potency, somewhat, though usually at the cost of decreasing the total yield.

 

[Wfw1]

Which brings this whole argument full circle. Stress can increase potency, but effect yield. Is this not the same battle we fight with every technique to try and benefit our grows?

You can't have your cake and eat it too!

If your selling it, leave it the F alone and get as much as you can. If your smoking it yourself tend to it as you see fit to get the best product for yourself. Simple