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Step by step bubble cloner set up (good for newb cloners)
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RuralRoute420
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cortez - you must not be near a superwallyworld
i've found that it takes slightly longer with 70'F rez temps. this i know from past cuttings. also, anyone know why they say NOT to use a dome with these bubblers? i did for this round with the best results yet......what gives? i don't use a timer for 3 gallons of water in bubbler and the 7 1/2 watt walmart heater keeps it @ 80-82'F. i just asked about the nutes couple posts back. i would hit them with the nutes when you see too much yellowing up top. i will leave them in my bubbler for a good 2-3 more weeks. by then i will have them up to 500ppm or so. this will probably make some hydro junkies cringe, but as for the long roots, i every once and awhile will seperate them with my fingers to keep them for getting to entangled.....makes getting them out easier. i'll probably catch some flak for that.
p.s NPS(nopeststrips) rule - mites b gone! can be picked up @ walmart from HOTSHOT for $5. keep in mind, they don't know the long term affects on humans from the dichlorvis, but i use em anyways.
i've found that it takes slightly longer with 70'F rez temps. this i know from past cuttings. also, anyone know why they say NOT to use a dome with these bubblers? i did for this round with the best results yet......what gives? i don't use a timer for 3 gallons of water in bubbler and the 7 1/2 watt walmart heater keeps it @ 80-82'F. i just asked about the nutes couple posts back. i would hit them with the nutes when you see too much yellowing up top. i will leave them in my bubbler for a good 2-3 more weeks. by then i will have them up to 500ppm or so. this will probably make some hydro junkies cringe, but as for the long roots, i every once and awhile will seperate them with my fingers to keep them for getting to entangled.....makes getting them out easier. i'll probably catch some flak for that. p.s NPS(nopeststrips) rule - mites b gone! can be picked up @ walmart from HOTSHOT for $5. keep in mind, they don't know the long term affects on humans from the dichlorvis, but i use em anyways.
You can root cuttings at temps lower than 75-85F of course, they just root fsater at the warmer temps. The 75-85 range seemed to be a strong consensus on OG, my aero-cloner is sitting at 82F right now, with several rooted clones waiting for a new home.
cortez
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Hey everyone: I finally made it too wal- mart and constructed a "heated" version of the cloner.The heater was $14.95 Canadian and another bubble wand @ $5.83.I had a spare container and lid.First I located where the heater would sit in the empty container,pilot holed the first hole and used my 3/4" drill bit to bore the hole for the glass heater housing(the housing is 7/8" this will make for a tight seal).As a new innovation i re-located the hole for the bubble wand to the bottom instead of through the lid(this frees up the lid and cuttings from the silicone tube).The male end of the wand is tapered so drill your hole undersized (again for a tight seal),I would reccomend proper sized rubber grommets for both holes.I just used aquarium grade silicone to seal both holes.NO LEAKS.....phew!!if using silicone, be sure to scuff the area of the container with sand paper where the silicone is going to adhere to.This creates a grab point for the silicone.Use only aquarium grade silicone.Wait 24 hrs and fill er up....plug it in an load her up with cuttings....Holding at 82.... awesome.
frater_indo
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excellent work there cortez and again great info! All the cultivation books I've read have mentioned rooting takes place more easily in a low-80's, so this amendment to the cloner should put you up at that 100% success rate methinks.
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excellent work there cortez and again great info! All the cultivation books I've read have mentioned rooting takes place more easily in a low-80's, so this amendment to the cloner should put you up at that 100% success rate methinks.
cortez
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Medical:This system is soooo easy too put together.Give it a try when your ready.There's not much to lose if it doesn't work out.(it's very hard to fail getting this working) If your growing for meds,this will ensure your medicine is reliably there for you when needed. no worries of whether your clones will take or not,like with other methods.It's like having clones on stand by!
muddy waters
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nice post... so wait, you have to change the water -daily- with a bubbling cloner? i thought the point of adding oxygenation was to avoid having to do water changes as you would if you were just leaving the cutting in a glass of water.
i also think that higher temps = less D.O. = more probability of disease... but i think this may have something to do with one's climate and the amount and variety of spores in the air, that sort of thing.
i used to be an expert, fail-safe cloner in north america. down south the ONLY success i have is in carefully managed cups with coco fiber and sand and a humidity dome, labor intensive, about 14-20 days for root growth.
anyone experimented with adding H2O2 to the bubbling cloner as a disinfectant?
i also think that higher temps = less D.O. = more probability of disease... but i think this may have something to do with one's climate and the amount and variety of spores in the air, that sort of thing.
i used to be an expert, fail-safe cloner in north america. down south the ONLY success i have is in carefully managed cups with coco fiber and sand and a humidity dome, labor intensive, about 14-20 days for root growth.
anyone experimented with adding H2O2 to the bubbling cloner as a disinfectant?
RuralRoute420
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you don't have to change the water at all, i go till i see roots, then i add nutes, and leave them in there till i'm ready, but that's just me...
make sure when you add nutes, turn the heat off, you want your lower temps then >68'F.
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you don't have to change the water at all, i go till i see roots, then i add nutes, and leave them in there till i'm ready, but that's just me...
make sure when you add nutes, turn the heat off, you want your lower temps then >68'F.
cortez
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yeah i change my water because i'm a creature of habit.I've noticed a sligh slime develop when left unchanged(algae),so i just got in the habit changing it daily.The algae is most likely due to the clear container and the cfl in my grow chamber.The clear container gives you the advantage of observing the clones progress without disturbing them....a sacrifice for a reward i guess?
frater_indo
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Might wanna add some H2O2 to the system to keep the algae under control.
RuralRoute420
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20days
20days
rez temps 70'F and dropping slowly
200ppm
20days
rez temps 70'F and dropping slowly
200ppm
Do you guys find that spliting the stems with this technique is important? I notice in your photo above that most of your clones have the bottoms split. Is there some sort of advantage to spliting them?
Just got my bubble cloner up and running too..
Just got my bubble cloner up and running too..
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RuralRoute420
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in my experiences sofar, pretty important, the one's that i didn't split, didn't root in time, so i had to throw them out, now i split them all....seems to work.
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in my experiences sofar, pretty important, the one's that i didn't split, didn't root in time, so i had to throw them out, now i split them all....seems to work.
Hmmm.. I wonder if it has anything to do with the strain. My cuts have only been in my bubbler for about 3 days.. So i really cant judge anything yet. Still waiting.
RuralRoute420
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it's chronic x mazaar on one side and whitelights on the other, 2 seperate strains, when i take the cuttings, i just cut the stems in 1/2 with the scissors, seems to work well, what can it hurt....i think it might have something to do with more surface space that the roots can start on...dunno.
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it's chronic x mazaar on one side and whitelights on the other, 2 seperate strains, when i take the cuttings, i just cut the stems in 1/2 with the scissors, seems to work well, what can it hurt....i think it might have something to do with more surface space that the roots can start on...dunno.
