Starting Line-ups for 2015 OD Season

[mikeandnaomi]

Pineapple Chunk very tasty looks great grows hearty 9 out of 10 for everything except potency 7 out of 10..
you love smoking it for the flavor and aroma ... solid buds top to bottom. Yield is very good.

 

[mikeandnaomi]

My outdoor run this season ....


Vietnam Black
Malawi
Thai
power flower
Pakistan
Orient eXprEss

For those growing barneys pineapple chunk - GOOD CHOICE. will be the best looking plants in the garden.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

My outdoor run this season ....


Vietnam Black
Malawi
Thai
power flower
Pakistan
Orient eXprEss

For those growing barneys pineapple chunk - GOOD CHOICE. will be the best looking plants in the garden.

nice list..i see u got some Ace genetics as well..i got their rotten panda before they sold out of it..im a true skunk lover and i hope its resistant bc all other skunks i have tried here just dont have no outdoor resistance..i am trying the early skunk this year as well though so hopfully i get some good skunky stuff..still looking for that early to mid 90s skunk..we use to call it here red hair skunk

 

[Grizz]

without insulting anyone , why do you guys use seeds rather than cuts ? seems the goal would be to grow proven top shelf bud as to hit or miss with seeds. im just curious

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Not all of us have the luxury of access to elite clones. No dispensaries in my neck of the woods, that's for damn sure.

 

[plastochron]

without insulting anyone , why do you guys use seeds rather than cuts ? seems the goal would be to grow proven top shelf bud as to hit or miss with seeds. im just curious

the ultimate dilemma. i'm not sure if increased vigor can be attributed to the taproot or the combination of young chronological plant age and the momentum gained when a seedling is grown in optimal conditions. don't get me wrong, one can make a similar argument for momentum demonstrated by extremely healthy cuts in ideal conditions (though it's physiological age in that case).

i have seen all 4 sides of this die... that is the 'typical' cases of less than vigorous clones and highly vigorous but less than top shelf meds from seed, as well as vice versa.

i am going to run some clones this year (gg4, forum, blue dream, harletsu) but will devote most holes plants propagated from seed.

having had my fair share of successes and failures in this decision making process i have arrived at a few guiding principles:

1) if you are going big with any particular line (or even a single parental lineage - especially the papa) make sure you have experience with it; pop enough beans and flower enough plants to familiarize yourself with the uniformity and the most prominent co-occurring traits so you can make an informed selection of what to plant.

2) avoid s1's or highly inbred lines. just one man's opinion, but if you are going to roll the dice with a seedling you have never seen flower you might as well choose a cross that has the greatest odds of producing a super vigorous plant. for instance, a few years ago i ran a shit ton of OGR's wifi and the white s1; predictably the wifi was super vigorous and less uniform while the white was less vigorous (particularly evident by looking at root mass during the first transplantation). of course going with F1's will likely mean that you are going to deal with more variation, but i have found that some hybrids yield fairly predictable phenotypic diversity.

3) when in doubt, plant hybrids with chem daddys. there is a reason that chem/chem crosses are frequently the go to studs of many breeders.

i'm going to rock a little bit of my own seed gear this year, but will mostly rock ganja rebel's various chem/og/sour lines and gage green's joseph og crosses... i really want to try more of their other crosses, but i keep coming back to the jo.

if i come across some gg4 crosses i may have to rethink my whole game plan though.

on another note, i just want to thank you josey for creating and disseminating gg4. nowadays it seems like so many slick charlatans and opportunists with questionable ethics get ahead faster than the rest... and although some of them are taking advantage of gg4 as well, 100x as many deserving patients are accessing it too... and for that we owe you a debt of gratitude.

 

[Grizz]

the ultimate dilemma. i'm not sure if increased vigor can be attributed to the taproot or the combination of young chronological plant age and the momentum gained when a seedling is grown in optimal conditions. don't get me wrong, one can make a similar argument for momentum demonstrated by extremely healthy cuts in ideal conditions (though it's physiological age in that case).

i have seen all 4 sides of this die... that is the 'typical' cases of less than vigorous clones and highly vigorous but less than top shelf meds from seed, as well as vice versa.

i am going to run some clones this year (gg4, forum, blue dream, harletsu) but will devote most holes plants propagated from seed.

having had my fair share of successes and failures in this decision making process i have arrived at a few guiding principles:

1) if you are going big with any particular line (or even a single parental lineage - especially the papa) make sure you have experience with it; pop enough beans and flower enough plants to familiarize yourself with the uniformity and the most prominent co-occurring traits so you can make an informed selection of what to plant.

2) avoid s1's or highly inbred lines. just one man's opinion, but if you are going to roll the dice with a seedling you have never seen flower you might as well choose a cross that has the greatest odds of producing a super vigorous plant. for instance, a few years ago i ran a shit ton of OGR's wifi and the white s1; predictably the wifi was super vigorous and less uniform while the white was less vigorous (particularly evident by looking at root mass during the first transplantation). of course going with F1's will likely mean that you are going to deal with more variation, but i have found that some hybrids yield fairly predictable phenotypic diversity.

3) when in doubt, plant hybrids with chem daddys. there is a reason that chem/chem crosses are frequently the go to studs of many breeders.

i'm going to rock a little bit of my own seed gear this year, but will mostly rock ganja rebel's various chem/og/sour lines and gage green's joseph og crosses... i really want to try more of their other crosses, but i keep coming back to the jo.

if i come across some gg4 crosses i may have to rethink my whole game plan though.

on another note, i just want to thank you josey for creating and disseminating gg4. nowadays it seems like so many slick charlatans and opportunists with questionable ethics get ahead faster than the rest... and although some of them are taking advantage of gg4 as well, 100x as many deserving patients are accessing it too... and for that we owe you a debt of gratitude.

good thinking and I do understand not having excess to clones but seems to me getting a good genetic strain in seed form then grow 20 or so indoors and find that keeper and take 100 or more cuts for your outdoor grow would really enhance your crop.

thanks for the kind words.

 

[Cannavore]

Probably just some Strawberry Diesel x Blockhead. Maybe a couple autos that I made to have some extra smoke.

 

[Noonin NorCal]

Got the beans soaking now, Critical Kush from Barney's. Quantum Kush from TGA Subcool and have one single Phantom Cookie seed. Plus a few local Sour Diesel clones. Also have Sour Diesel cuts for the light dep.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

without insulting anyone , why do you guys use seeds rather than cuts ? seems the goal would be to grow proven top shelf bud as to hit or miss with seeds. im just curious

i use seeds joesy i wish i could get cuts here..still in illegal state with all the rules of guerilla farming..

i would also like to thank u for a fine cut that i will prolly never see until someone makes a cross and then some seeds of it,but what i have seen of it that fker is supurb..would love to get my hands on one someday

 

[XxCaptiankushxX]

Final batting order will be.

Light dep- original headband
Sour diesel

Full term- headband
Sour d
Tahoe og f2 bag seed
Blue dream
Triangle kush f2 bag seed
Sky lotus- bodhi
Super snow lotus- bodhi
Lotus Larry - bodhi
Prayer tower- bodhi
Purpetrator- archive
Sleestackx skunk
Kandy kush- reserve privada

Going to be an exciting year. Soil is balanced to Albright ratios. Plants should be very very happy.

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

without insulting anyone , why do you guys use seeds rather than cuts ? seems the goal would be to grow proven top shelf bud as to hit or miss with seeds. im just curious

Without insulting anyone....

I like the variety found in seed. I got plenty of places I can get clones nearby, but none of them have what I'm looking to grow for my personal stash. With seed, sometimes you strike out, sometimes you find a great plant. It all depends. I just try to grow them the best I can and hope the breeder did his job and the plant comes through for me.

So many interesting strains available in seed form these days from proven breeders and I like to support them in their efforts. It's nice to have a chance at growing something really exceptional without all the expectation of a hyped up clone that may or may not be the real thing.

With seed, there is very little question as to where your latest wonder plant came from. Unless you get a clone from a reliable source, you really don't know what you got since you didn't grow and then select the plant it came from.

If I were a commercial grower or someone who relied on income from growing, I'd most likely feel differently about the whole thing.

HB.

 

[Noonin NorCal]

I always found that seed plants are a lot more heartier then clones, plus yield is more at least thats the case when we run outdoors...

 

[Smoke Buddy]

without insulting anyone , why do you guys use seeds rather than cuts ? seems the goal would be to grow proven top shelf bud as to hit or miss with seeds. im just curious

Its a reasonable question. Living in NorCal I can get most clones and I have grown indoors for years from clone. In that time I was also collecting seeds. I'm no spring chicken and I am wondering when I'm going to get to some of these old goodies? If not now it may never happen since some of the seeds are getting old. The other thing is, you are more likely to grow a plant well OD than ID so a seed has good opportunity to show its potential... a very generalized statement. There will be potency duds here and there.
this years OD plan, Ill start 12-18 looking for 6 to go :

Res Chemdog Double D.
OgRaskals White Bubba Femmed
5K OG x SD-IBL
Pure Kush x SD-IBL

 

[Grizz]

I understand what you guys are saying, especially smoke buddy, I have so many seeds that I know I will never get the chance to grow, I guess what im getting at is every year the market gets flooded with outdoor from cali here and like 80% of it isent very good, it goes cheap and every customer is so tempted to buy it and some do, but there always disappointed with the quality, I am guessing its probably grown from seed . there just to much variance in seeds for me to dedicate a whole season to hit or miss genetics. I know your going to find gems but the so so's are there also. I just know if I was doing it I would want a proven strain that yields well, high potency, mold resistant that I could get top dollor for,

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

I understand what you guys are saying, especially smoke buddy, I have so many seeds that I know I will never get the chance to grow, I guess what im getting at is every year the market gets flooded with outdoor from cali here and like 80% of it isent very good, it goes cheap and every customer is so tempted to buy it and some do, but there always disappointed with the quality, I am guessing its probably grown from seed . there just to much variance in seeds for me to dedicate a whole season to hit or miss genetics. I know your going to find gems but the so so's are there also. I just know if I was doing it I would want a proven strain that yields well, high potency, mold resistant that I could get top dollor for,

malawi would be a good strain for u cali folks..i wish i could grow it here..dubi showed a pic in the Ace fourm that it tested 26 or 28% outdoor grown..my personal go to strain is delahaze..its got potency,massive yeilds and super mold resistant.. i been growing it ever year since 2012 and lowest yeild i have had on it was 15oz and that was my own error bc i was using miracle gro on it..this year is gonna be grown with veg+bloom to see if it will make a huge difference.
i was doing some reading last nite and a guy from the farm used organic and chems together during the whole grow and his plant was just massive..i always thought that chems/organic couldnt be used together that it would be canceling its self out but after reading that diary he had i have changed my mind..i think there is more to explore in the chems+organic route combined..of course i only read that chems/organic wouldnt work never tried it..he was using nectar of the gods,dyna gro and veg+ bloom and the growth rate from 1 week in just exploded..u would have thought he was growing a auto with how fast that bitch grew each week

 

[TheOutlawTree]

Full season-

Sour D
Gorilla Glue #4
OG x Chemdog

Maybe a couple blue dream's

 

[ghostmade]

Subbed

 

[dannykarey]

Great lists guys!!! This season should be a good one weather permitting of course

Great question Joesy, and you have a some great points....I agree with you.

For me, it's just easier for my situation to use seeds.....yes you get some variance ofcourse, but I just make bubble out of the so-so's and keep the best to smoke....I don't sell

Getting close, snow is starting to melt finally!!! plus zero, daytime temps are the norm.........Can't wait to finally get out there and start!!

Cheers,

Danny

 

[Guyute54]

Got a few things Started and hoping to put out

Karma Genetics:

Karma's OG
Polar Bear
White Snake
White Biker

The Real Hash:

Animal Cookies x Super Skunk
Urkle x P.C.K.

Bodhi:

Golden Triangle
Lotus Larry
Synergy

Greenpoint:

Purple Goji x Stardawg

Humboldt Seeds:

Blueberry Headband

Cannaventure:

Flaming Cookies

I'm sure I'll be adding to the list as time goes on