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NewAgeGenetics
only tapwater?
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useless.gardens
thats sick. im already in the upper 90s. i use a bubble cloner.
and i use the mat, tray, & dome.
the glue roots in a cup. too easy.
just bought a 21 site aero bucket.
want to use it for SOG (one gal container) production. run 10 clones on a 4 week cycle. veg them 16-24".
i have 2 tents @ 3x3 filters & lights all setup & ready to go... itching for something up inside them !
and ive been testing what works in my lab sog. so far : blue dream , jtr, gg4
new possibilities : firedog , berry white , rom-goo
gg4
and i use the mat, tray, & dome.
the glue roots in a cup. too easy.
just bought a 21 site aero bucket.
want to use it for SOG (one gal container) production. run 10 clones on a 4 week cycle. veg them 16-24".
i have 2 tents @ 3x3 filters & lights all setup & ready to go... itching for something up inside them !
and ive been testing what works in my lab sog. so far : blue dream , jtr, gg4
new possibilities : firedog , berry white , rom-goo
gg4
SuperWeed
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Do you trim your roots bro?
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yeah
i've run RO as well and cant tell one bit of differance...the one i have is 25 site it only holds a few gallons of water i just keep the whole thing in a sink & change the water if needed...in the wintertime it always stays perfect ambient room tempyou're tempting me!!
lol ... that one got away from me a bit
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useless.gardens
i trim them. you can do it early. late. the plant is super resilient once the beard starts. in the bubbler, i get a small pineapple, take a chop stick, get a small wad of rooting gel, smear it right above the beard.
of course in the sink i have a solo cup of coco coir, with a two finger wide & finger deep hole, insert cut, push down coco, water in till a touch of run off , fluff top one inch layer with chop stick.
they grow quick. two days under a fluro. then straight to the 250w mh.
im excited to aero clone. cant wait till it arrives.
gear is better than buying seeds.
had KOS c99 (f4) in a cart.
bailed on it for the cloner.
of course in the sink i have a solo cup of coco coir, with a two finger wide & finger deep hole, insert cut, push down coco, water in till a touch of run off , fluff top one inch layer with chop stick.
they grow quick. two days under a fluro. then straight to the 250w mh.
im excited to aero clone. cant wait till it arrives.
gear is better than buying seeds.
had KOS c99 (f4) in a cart.
bailed on it for the cloner.
An aerocloner really changed the cloning game for me. I used a bubble cloner for almost a decade and it did pretty well, but the aerocloner is a lot easier to get some consistency out of. 
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An aerocloner really changed the cloning game for me. I used a bubble cloner for almost a decade and it did pretty well, but the aerocloner is a lot easier to get some consistency out of.
and they're so inexpensive & effective it should be the de fac·to method
Dude, ikr! Those clone kings are almost so cheap, you can just buy a new one instead of cleaning the damn thing!
I freakon hate cleaning it! I run a perpetual grow, so I always have rooted and unrooted cuts in it cycling out constantly. Kinda makes cleaning it a pain in the ass cause wtf am I supposed to do with the cuts in the cloner while I'm cleaning the damn thing?!? 
I definitely need to get a second one. Probably would make it easier with me having to constantly run the thing.
SuperWeed
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If you're gonna grow in a medium, clone in the medium you are going into. So, ez clone to dwc. Coco to coco. Jiffy pellet to peat mix. Rockwool cube to rockwool block. I mean, I can clone anything, in anything, but for sake of simplicity, stick with one thing. Why take even 1 day of transplant shock, when you don't have to?
Lets take coco, for the win.
1. I use 32 ounce clear potato salad containers, with holes drilled in it like an air pot. Seems to me there was some science to the initial rooting container size and that's why I stuck with 32ounces. I can't find the science. I just switched to evernote to keep my journal. Idk. Anyway, you can clone into the ground outside. And the earth is a pretty big container. The container doesn't matter. The environment does.
2. Fill with charged coco. Or coco right out of the bag. New coco is best. Old sterilized, fluffed up coco works.
3. Take a large cutting. 6 inches tall at least. LEAVE the Fan leaves, except those that might touch media. TAKE off all side branches, leaving only the two top nodes. You can trim the fans back a little, but I don't recommend it. It's one more wound to heal, instead of feeding on the lower fan to make roots. Usually one or two leaves die back (reabsorbed nutes / translocated to rooting) as the roots grow. Sometimes not. Sometimes, she's a ferrari.
4. Take the tip of your clean razor and run it down the side of the stem, just cutting into the cambium layer. Repeat on the other side. Dip the cut in 10x dip-n-grow. Dip-n-grow is used by the team of arborists cloning the giant redwoods. It's the most powerful rooting hormone on the market and it works. So does spit and honey and willow juice, but just use dip-n-grow. It is even alcohol based to keep you sterile. Love it.
5. Plant your cutting in the coco. Water it thoroughly with regular veg water, until it runs off. Try to keep the ph at about 6ish. Tamp gently around the stem. Give it a good jerk, to release the perched water table. We want a sponge, not a slurry. Use a sterilizer of some sort - u.c. roots, zone, bleach, etc. This is important. I don't care that coco has trichoderma. Trichoderma doesn't do shit when the phosphorous levels are over 50ppm. I'm pretty sure we are always over 50ppm, if we are using any kind of synthetic fertilizer. Someone step up and hit me with different science, if I am wrong.
6. Next big key is temperature in the root zone. 78. 79. Period. Fastest root growth. Use a heat mat with a thermostat. Every study on anything close to cannabis and my years of experience. 78. 79. Try and keep the canopy/leaf temp above 80 and the humidity above 80 for the first few days. Heres what I do. I use sterilite trays, like the kind they keep snakes in, I use one to hold the clones, and one as a dome. I leave it cracked. Always have some air flow. Mold sets in fast, even in a "sterile" environment. Plus, we want to encourage some transpiration, so that the plant can continue to grow. This is key. Most people don't pay attention to this. If you are a small time grower, use a potato salad container, drilled out the same, as a dome. Works a treat.
7. After 4 or 5 days, you should be able to remove the dome.
8. After 7-10 days, these things could go in a cornfield.
Now if you are a dwc guy and you are going to something like the undercurrent- here's a tip. The net pots - if you cut out the center of the raised platform, it will hold a standard size cloner collar. No rocks. No media. Yay. So you can go right from a cloner (never use a dome on a cloner btw, just keep your humidity at like 60-70), into dwc. Pretty neat. It also gave me a reason to bust out the propane torch, without dabs. Heated up the razor knife and sliced right through the net pots.
All these tips apply to any method of cloning. Subtle differences, soaking the rockwool at ph 5.5, soaking the jiffy peat pellet at 5.5, charging coco, etc. The key is airflow, canopy and root zone temperatures, the health & vigor of the cutting. Then, you have the proper pruning of the cut to promote growth and healing, instead of senescence.
In 2007, I had a BOG Blueberry root a Jiffy Peat Pellet, in 3 days. 72 hours had roots outside the pellet. Cannabis wants to live. All we have to do, is give her a good home.
Lets take coco, for the win.
1. I use 32 ounce clear potato salad containers, with holes drilled in it like an air pot. Seems to me there was some science to the initial rooting container size and that's why I stuck with 32ounces. I can't find the science. I just switched to evernote to keep my journal. Idk. Anyway, you can clone into the ground outside. And the earth is a pretty big container. The container doesn't matter. The environment does.
2. Fill with charged coco. Or coco right out of the bag. New coco is best. Old sterilized, fluffed up coco works.
3. Take a large cutting. 6 inches tall at least. LEAVE the Fan leaves, except those that might touch media. TAKE off all side branches, leaving only the two top nodes. You can trim the fans back a little, but I don't recommend it. It's one more wound to heal, instead of feeding on the lower fan to make roots. Usually one or two leaves die back (reabsorbed nutes / translocated to rooting) as the roots grow. Sometimes not. Sometimes, she's a ferrari.
4. Take the tip of your clean razor and run it down the side of the stem, just cutting into the cambium layer. Repeat on the other side. Dip the cut in 10x dip-n-grow. Dip-n-grow is used by the team of arborists cloning the giant redwoods. It's the most powerful rooting hormone on the market and it works. So does spit and honey and willow juice, but just use dip-n-grow. It is even alcohol based to keep you sterile. Love it.
5. Plant your cutting in the coco. Water it thoroughly with regular veg water, until it runs off. Try to keep the ph at about 6ish. Tamp gently around the stem. Give it a good jerk, to release the perched water table. We want a sponge, not a slurry. Use a sterilizer of some sort - u.c. roots, zone, bleach, etc. This is important. I don't care that coco has trichoderma. Trichoderma doesn't do shit when the phosphorous levels are over 50ppm. I'm pretty sure we are always over 50ppm, if we are using any kind of synthetic fertilizer. Someone step up and hit me with different science, if I am wrong.
6. Next big key is temperature in the root zone. 78. 79. Period. Fastest root growth. Use a heat mat with a thermostat. Every study on anything close to cannabis and my years of experience. 78. 79. Try and keep the canopy/leaf temp above 80 and the humidity above 80 for the first few days. Heres what I do. I use sterilite trays, like the kind they keep snakes in, I use one to hold the clones, and one as a dome. I leave it cracked. Always have some air flow. Mold sets in fast, even in a "sterile" environment. Plus, we want to encourage some transpiration, so that the plant can continue to grow. This is key. Most people don't pay attention to this. If you are a small time grower, use a potato salad container, drilled out the same, as a dome. Works a treat.
7. After 4 or 5 days, you should be able to remove the dome.
8. After 7-10 days, these things could go in a cornfield.
Now if you are a dwc guy and you are going to something like the undercurrent- here's a tip. The net pots - if you cut out the center of the raised platform, it will hold a standard size cloner collar. No rocks. No media. Yay. So you can go right from a cloner (never use a dome on a cloner btw, just keep your humidity at like 60-70), into dwc. Pretty neat. It also gave me a reason to bust out the propane torch, without dabs. Heated up the razor knife and sliced right through the net pots.
All these tips apply to any method of cloning. Subtle differences, soaking the rockwool at ph 5.5, soaking the jiffy peat pellet at 5.5, charging coco, etc. The key is airflow, canopy and root zone temperatures, the health & vigor of the cutting. Then, you have the proper pruning of the cut to promote growth and healing, instead of senescence.
In 2007, I had a BOG Blueberry root a Jiffy Peat Pellet, in 3 days. 72 hours had roots outside the pellet. Cannabis wants to live. All we have to do, is give her a good home.
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Is that home made, or something off e-bay?? What was cost?
~star~crash~
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it's the clone king!
it's the clone king!
https://www.amazon.com/Clone-King-Aeroponic-Cloning-Machine/dp/B008NBTXWY
pretty standard item for any grower
it's the clone king!
https://www.amazon.com/Clone-King-Aeroponic-Cloning-Machine/dp/B008NBTXWY
pretty standard item for any grower
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SuperWeed
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see... this is why...ur superweed
Sorry, I got high and rambled.
I like tapwater for the ez-cloner too. I find that I have to add bleach at .1ml per gal at about the halfway point though... Must be the water out here.
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Sorry, I got high and rambled.
that's all i do,,ha ha
here's chem/diesel clone @ day 51 moving right along quickly looks to be a good yielding plant
here's one of the Cinderella 99 females from a seed pack
HA HA those are the best posts,same thing forme i had to add bleach or slime.so went back to coco for clones.Sorry, I got high and rambled.
I like tapwater for the ez-cloner too. I find that I have to add bleach at .1ml per gal at about the halfway point though... Must be the water out here.
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HA HA those are the best posts,same thing forme i had to add bleach or slime.so went back to coco for clones.
she's about ready ... Chem/Diesel
rockymountainJ
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Sweet thread starcrash!!
Subbed for sure!!
Subbed for sure!!
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useless.gardens
delicious looking chem pics. cant wait to check ur smoke report.
just found an hso bubba kush seed in my stash.
in a shot glass already.
just found an hso bubba kush seed in my stash.
in a shot glass already.
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