spiritual ganja

[jahrastafarii]

for me, all ganj is a sacrament. which is why i smoke so sparingly.

when you smoke all day or use concentrates daily you lose the spiritual, psychedelic, and creative aspects of the plant, imo.

this is why i take a month or two long break from ganj every year or so. i'm just past my first week of one right now.

now, there is nothing wrong with daily heavy use, it has its own special aspects. some of the best times in my life in fact. though also some of the worst.

but for me, smoking one hit a day or not smoking for several days and then burning a fattie is what takes me where i want to be.

one of the most profound and enlightening trips i've ever taken was from a very large butter dose and a lay in a hammock. the only time i've ever achieved complete lucid dreaming. i was eating dmt heavily in this same location on separate occasions if that provides any perspective.

so, again imo, the spiritual realm of cannabis is only truly accessible when approached with a low tolerance and a mind eager for the ganj.



oh and pure sativa or sativa leaning ganj helps too :wink:

agreed respect the ganj

 

[jahrastafarii]

Jimi Hendrix was not singing about weed.

yeah it was lsd he was talking bout

 

[The Hatter]

I must first seek the patience to flower over 9 weeks... but man o man I really do wonder if the pot beyond that will prove as we imagine.

i'm just trying to smoke that purple haze jimmy hendrix was talking about... c99 barely makes me tickle and i've had samples from 17-23%thc

for me to get 'spiritual', i'd probably have to go clean for a week and then move right into clearing the 3-footer with hash sprinkled on buds

first time smoking bho was green crack and i still only got 'very high'

C99 and Green Crack are nice but if you want the oldschool sativa experience you really do get stuck with a long flowering period. I've come across some decently heady stuff that finishes in about 10 or 12 weeks but the most insane of the tropical sativas can flower for 18+ weeks.

You'ld be surprised just how much of a difference going a few days without smoking will make. BHO from a good heady sativa is godly. I had some Destroyer BHO which was pretty close to what I would describe as pyschedelic.

 

[chefboy6969]

LSD made by Augustus Owsley Stanley III...Purple Haze, Orange Sunshine and a few others...The king of the Guitar writing about the acid that the king of LSD gave him...kinda cool if you think about it..

peace
Chefboy

 

[RandyCalifornia]

I know it's about acid and all but I like to think of it as my herb song.
"Whatever it is, that girl put a spell on me "

I think with the herb, it all where your head is at. Like the BoboShanti says, you're always trippin, the sacrament just takes it to another level.

 

[jahrastafarii]

always tripping true that

 

[TomCalifornicus]

lol, so embarrassing, hippies...

 

[MAHA KALA]

lol, so embarrassing, hippies...

what a poser...



yes bobo shanti is smoking it all day barnyard, thanks for bringin it up those rastas are smoking it in incredible nature, i envy...

so some say "get a pause" and some like bobo shanti say "smoke it in the morning, and all day" so i guess it depends on person.. when you had pause it can be overwhelming and you cant install yourself to that imo

i smoked pure indica, hashplant1 x dc from moonshine, it smelled like leather meat an incense like bubba and it was so strangely heady, i feel like in the middle of some oriental garden.. more flat than sativa high, but really such peaceful and visionary high.. you feel like you gain new view on nature of the things, so inspiring...

indicas can do it..maple leaf indica sounds good... i smoked marley collie and its MLI x jamaican sativa and high is very meditative too, when you walk the forest... you senses are so sharp, you perceive the beauty

also blueberry is one for meditation imo... very dreamy peaceful

african sativas are not suitable for it imo

 

[satva]

Highland Nepalese frequently gets noted in discussions about spiritual effects of marijuana and Blueberry mentioned frequently for euphoric effects. In my next project I'd like to grow marijuana for a spiritual effect. I have one phenotype of Mango Haze that I'd consider spiritual. The effect is clear, calm, peaceful and uplifting, with no heavy side effects or comedown. I call it Mango Haze - Lemon pheno.

Other than Highland Nepalese, any other strains or genetics I should consider for this ~ Spiritual project? I usually work with a couple of strains and make selections based on effect, in this project the effect I'm looking for is clear, calm, peaceful, and uplifting.

PS> Destroyer ~ Highland Thai / Hmong Thai / Meao Thai might be spiritual if crossed to another genetic to create a more peaceful and calm effect. A cross of Destroyer x Pakistani Chitral is a step in that direction.

 

[yesum]

I have heard of Frankie's or piff, nyc haze, etc., as having a spiritual high to it. I got a pack of Chimera's Frankie's to see if this is true for me.

Cannabiogen has a Highland Nepalese which I am going to get and hoping for a zen like experience from that as well.

 

[Bob Green]

Lots of good crosses out for all kinds.

USC has Double Jam a cross of two Jamaicans. They also put out Nepalma a cross of a Nepalese and a 1974 Panama Red taken to an F3.

Cannabiogen has some great lines out. Mextiza, Mangobiche, and Punto Rojo on my very short list for sure. After that its time to save up for Destroyer and Ghana!

Chimera has his Highland Mexican and now Frankies.

 

[Bob Green]

Escobar has Holy Princess that sounds really nice too. Half C99 and half Santa Marta fram Brazil.

 

[satva]

Frankie's or piff, nyc haze, etc., as having a spiritual high
Purday noted Frankincense Haze / Jack had a spiritual high, but his notes on the effects didn't sound spiritual to me. Has Chimera ever disclosed the genetics?

Chimera's Highland Mexican is connoisseur with a frankincense scent in the smoke and a euphoric effect. The smell in the jar is Lime/Mango/Cedar. Highland Guerrero heightens awareness and Blueberry is euphoric. Highland Mexican x Highland Nepalese, should produce spiritual pheno-types.

Mango Haze Lemon/Sweet Floral/Orange Blossom pheno-tpye has a nice calm uplifting Zen experience, without excess energy, psychedelic intensity, or mental stone, but lacks old school magic you'll find in 1972 Highland Guerrero or Destroyer (85% Hmong Highland Thai).

 

[red rider]

For me all cannabis is somewhat spiritual, but some strains in particular are more so. I had some highland Mexican back in the 70s that some claimed made them see god. However the one strain that really was/is spiritual is high altitude grown Colombian Punto Rojo. Then as now this stuff always gives me a feeling of “connection” to things around me. There’s something about that rich volcanic soil matched with the high altitude equatorial sun that produces the most unique resin profile. Almost like tripping the Rojo effect can be felt very deeply. So I would have to say Punto Rojo, your results may vary.

 

[Rinse]

Interesting article on spiritual use:

https://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_spirit6.shtml

 

[Kalbhairav]

From time spent in India/Nepal (three years in total), I have to say I find their weed/hash etc has that element of expansion. I'm highly biased though and also know a lot of the traditions that are associated with smoking in the Indian subcontinent. Nepalese and North Indian is what I'm talking about here, I've never tried the southern types.

It might surprise some of you to know that in India some sects of Sadhu's (wandering ascetics) use Charas (their preferred hand rubbed hashish) for medicine, food, sacrament etc. Meaning, if they don't have food, they'll smoke, if they can't sleep, they'll smoke.... Even more interesting is the fact that they don't use cannabis to get stoned.

The point being is that they're trying to surpass the effect that its giving them. Through yogic technique and concentration they are trying have complete control over their bodies whilst being intoxicated. For example; a Sadhu may smoke for 20 years until he has complete control over that type of intoxication. There is sect that travels around in groups. The head of the group is always sober (having spent the last 30 years stoned) whilst the rest smoke all day everyday.. If one of the group starts giggling, losing control, slouching, getting amorous feelings etc, the head of the group uses his staff to beat the guy until he regains control..

There are many stories of Great Masters mixing all kinds of intoxicants plus poisons, such as arsenic, and drinking the lot and being completely fine. Essentially they are doing this so they have to have greater control over their concentration to exert authority over the intoxication. Think what you will of these stories.....

Spirituality comes in many forms and sometimes one persons spirituality is another’s creativity. I think cannabis makes one more creative because it alters and hightens the senses. The problem with intoxicants is that the spiritual feeling is only there when you take something. I believe the most wondrous, unexplained spiritual experiences are experienced when the senses are lessened and concentration is heightened. When you have a spiritual experience outside of intoxication it can be far greater in potency (just my feelings on the matter)..

 

[satva]

Thanks Red Rider, Cannabiogebn's Punta Rojo is on my list. Do you know how the effect of Punta Rosa compares to a Highland Oaxacan? In the 1970's, the high quality commercial ~ Red Colombian was stronger, stoney, and denser than Highland Oaxacan which was, for me, clearer and more spacious. I'd guess Cannabiogen's Punta Rojo is from high quality genetics.

Kalbhairav, that sounds like a rugged group of Sadhu's I doubt I'll be joining that sect of wandering ascetics, anytime soon. I prefer the uplifting and spacious qualities of the effect more than intoxication. I have fond memories of Nepalese Temple hash from the 1970's.

 

[red rider]

Punto Rojo

Punto Rojo

Thanks Red Rider, Cannabiogebn's Punta Rojo is on my list. Do you know how the effect of Punta Rosa compares to a Highland Oaxacan? In the 1970's, the high quality commercial ~ Red Colombian was stronger, stoney, and denser than Highland Oaxacan which was, for me, clearer and more spacious. I'd guess Cannabiogen's Punta Rojo is from high quality genetics.

Con mucho gusto satva! You know the Colombian. In the 70s I never saw very much quality Mexican (maybe because I lived in Texas). Most was absolute garbage that would only buzz you at best.
Colombian at the time would always get you stoned even if it was dirty. I'm not saying there wasn't good Mexican around but it was like trying to find RKS now days. I don't know anything about Cannabiogen seeds or how they would grow outside of their native habitat but its certainly worth a try. Some times I get dark red bud here (Bogota) that's grown at low elevations and it's super potent but always with a dirty finish unlike the high altitude stuff. Remember genetics are only a third of what makes unique quality cannabis, you have to have that sun, soil and altitude to reproduce authentically.

Peace

 

[Weird]

I know this thread exists but have avoided it for some time because I felt the topic overwhelming to post in, because simply I could talk for hours about the subject. (and it is cumbersome to explain things i easily perceive when others simply do not)

There is a reason they used to call it "buddha"

I have grown (and continue to grow) several very spiritual and psychedelic sativas as well as very "spiritual hybrids" (psychedelic sativas crossed to introspective kushes for example)

The experiences I have had on them, including the dynamic and exponential effect they have when coupled with psychedelics have been shared with others. Simply put the same experience I have had was shared verbatim by others.

This goes way beyond medicinal value and effecting the state of one's being.

One such experience my crown chaukra opened the contents of my being poured into another persons, and we watched it happen. My gnostic belief was shared as tangibly as a cup of water, and it was seen as well as felt, the epiphany came after that it was similar to ancient artistic representation of enlightenment (golden radiation).

Im sure many people will read this and think its bullshit but im sure everyone knows someone who got "paranoid" after smoking a racey sativa.

Smoke some of that racey sativa on a headful of acid and you will scratch the surface of the gateways psychedelics coupled with weeds that can be open in your mind, not suggesting everyone goes for a psychedelic shitfit, but it certainly illustrates the point.

certain psychedelics can effect your sense of smell and your ability to perceive sublime effects including psychological influences, and I am sure many breeders and growers use this additional intuitive capacity to their benefit. DJ has been vocal about it iirc.

not to say the psychedelic experience equates to spirituality but those who deny spirituality cannot deny psychedelia and psychology as well, both of which lend insight into our being, which is ultimately a reflection of our spirituality.

there is a reason so many of us have trusted our internal compass in regards to our relationship with this plant and why this is emerging as humanitarian right.

If you look at our consciousness as if it were a balloon, you can look at marijuana as a method of expanding that balloon beyond its latent state.

certain strains effect expansion more than others

 

[red rider]

Everyone needs a good trip once and awhile to put things in prospective. We need this.