SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD

[RB26]

chiquita banana = renamed Orgnkid Banana Og ... fact. fwiw. more than likely to create an illusion of exclusiveness...Progressive options cuts are far from exclusive.

If CB is a renamed from ORGKID cut we should know this. I know RB26 did not find this in seeds. He got the cut from another. I'm not sure who named her CB?.. If Progressive options cuts are more exclusive that's the bottom of the barrel witch would mean CB is worse then those witch I doubt big time.. I would never grow something from Progressive options myself. All I can report on CB is she is right in the terps "ALL banana".. THC test to 30+%. Yields are great.

Please lets get the discussion back onto Sour Dubb. Last few pages have been off topic.

well I have tried rb's CB, and if it was different from orgnkid's cut I'd be completely shocked, they are closer to the same than sfv is to larry by smoke test alone.

it may be a coincidence, but PO was putting out a large volume of banana OG cuts in 2009ish, thats when I got it.

here are some of my old pics, your description thoroughly applies to the banana og cut as well

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one other trait I would look at is the large trich heads and the almost "grainy" feel they have when breaking up dried/cured nug.

I suppose if I may have a vested interest in the exclusivity of a strain I may be a bit quiet about all I know as well...but who knows, we only know the history we are told. results, on the other hand...speak for themselves.

I do know that orgnkid's banana og never really gained the momentum that CB has, mainly because of the timing/emergence of the concentrate market and the emphasis on different terps...it certainly broadened the so-cal demand for anything other than og...that and there were no predominant "brands" that were flagshipping her, unlike today.

I'd be willing to bet that you and rb would also agree if given the opportunity to try both.

Lol, why are you clogging up HH's awesome thread with this?

I've been completely upfront about this strain and given out all the origin information I have available to me. I've said personally on MULTIPLE occasions that CB is likely to be a specific pheno from OGK Banana OG, but I've admitted I do not know for sure.

FACTS: The cut was given to my friends about 6-7 years ago. We obtained it out of the LA metro area. We've been growing it ever since. We got the cut from friends that were straight hustlers, and had absolutely no interest or information about the lineage of the cut. It came to me named CB, so I kept calling it that. I didn't rename it for branding purposes to gain exclusivity.

Slymer is a specific pheno of Chernobyl but I don't see you giving them shit... there are dozens of examples of renamed strains ie. pretty much every OG out there... Who cares?

 

[Hammerhead]

Thanks for that info RB. I think CB has to be a diff pheno from those original OGK Banana seeds or possibly an s1 someone made. There had to be more seeds of Banana OG? The 2 plants dont resemble ea other at all imo. At some point I will get a terpene test done.. If any have a Banana OG they could test we could compare. I will post any relevant info about CB in your thread. It doesn't belong in here.

Thanks again

 

[whadeezlrg]

Lol, why are you clogging up HH's awesome thread with this?

I've been completely upfront about this strain and given out all the origin information I have available to me. I've said personally on MULTIPLE occasions that CB is likely to be a specific pheno from OGK Banana OG, but I've admitted I do not know for sure.

FACTS: The cut was given to my friends about 6-7 years ago. We obtained it out of the LA metro area. We've been growing it ever since. We got the cut from friends that were straight hustlers, and had absolutely no interest or information about the lineage of the cut. It came to me named CB, so I kept calling it that. I didn't rename it for branding purposes to gain exclusivity.

Slymer is a specific pheno of Chernobyl but I don't see you giving them shit... there are dozens of examples of renamed strains ie. pretty much every OG out there... Who cares?

well right off the top, if you're going to whine about thread clogging why not shoot me this in pm? or is there some kinda of double standard/exception for you?

what you're saying is you have no idea/proof/anything solid about the lineage of cb, yet for whatever reason you are reluctant to accept the possibility that a strain that is literally identical in every way as a finished product could in no way be the same cut as something that was gaining momentum/easily available in the area in the same timeline. it's unique enough a flavor that a coincidence(or an s1 for that matter) is pretty unlikely, I'm sure you could agree if you had first hand experience with a verified orgnkid's cut(which you might, unknowingly at least) what do you have to gain by denying the possibility, anyways?

I'm not saying/never said you renamed a thing, but someone most definitely did. do you know how your source obtained the genetics? through seed selection or by mother stock? your response leads me to believe you are under the impression of the former- my argument to that point is first off the uniqueness of the strain and it's terps and the low percentage of likeliness to replicate an identical profile even in an s1 form unless there is a ton of seeds being popped or a ridiculous amount of luck involved. more likely imho; is that you recieved something that had been victimized by the los angeles medical name game that was actually a pretty widely available cultivar in that area around that time.

Naming specific phenotypes found in an already named cross is standard practice in this industry, while seed hunting. in this case you are assuming without any grounds that the cut you run is more than likely an s1 of an already established strain, and you may have/may not have taken the personal liberty to rename it for whatever reason you may or may not have. In the case of most OG cuts, you have a bunch of more than likely s1's(plenty of side by sides done, differences noted and known at this point) that have been coined something else, many times by the actual person that popped the seed/found the pheno(Larry Og for instance?). Sure, there is a possibility that there are a few cuts that have a few names, that usually happens when someone breaks their word or other dishonorable happening occur. So, "Who Cares?" A lot of people do actually, being accurate in our endeavors is important, and I would assume a person such as yourself that is building something big in this industry would recognize the importance in being a consummate professional by every definition of the word, especially if one wants to be taken seriously as a horticulturist by their peer's.

HH- ever notice how my glue looks different than yours does as well? I believe it's called phenotypic expression, you know, how a plant expresses different traits depending on a cumulative impact of environmental factors including temps, rh, airflow, light saturation, nutrients, etc. that's really why my emphasis has been about comparing finished products more than anything....the only other way to be accurate is a side by side in the same environment; and if you really want to be a stickler, I'd say it wouldn't be completely accurate until at least a full generation of getting acclimated to a new environment(assuming one or the other was sourced from another garden)

 

[dank.frank]

Just because it is of interest to me...

When I came across something labeled as "Monkey Paw" and it was straight up over ripe BANANA with nutty/creamy undertones...I've accepted this name was wrongly applied and whatever that strain is/was remains a mystery to me.

I've had Banana OG and it is more candy sweet banana than what I came across as Monkey Paw. So I'm of the opinion there IS more than one banana terp cut going around.

I know Subcool's Qleaner was said to toss out banana phenos, but I've never grown out the few packs I bought back in '09 ish.

I'd like to believe the CB and the Banana OGK are something different. That allows me to maintain the fantasy that maybe some day I'll still might come across whatever was in that jar labeled "monkey paw"...



dank.Frank

 

[Storm Shadow]

Banana OGK str8 garbage compost weed ... Terps are more like an unripe Banana peel .. pure fools gold

 

[stoney917]

Banana og

 

[Hammerhead]

Please guys if you must post this info put it in his CB thread.

 

[dansbuds]

I think your wasting your breath Hammer

 

[stoney917]

I thought I posted them pics with my post in the Chiquita thread??? How they ended up here is got my head spun.... Speaking of jaws I just burned a cannon of dcap... 98 bubba x white mustang x chemD...

 

[stoney917]

Back on topic some throw back dubb

 

[dansbuds]

I thought I posted them pics with my post in the Chiquita thread??? How they ended up here is got my head spun.... Speaking of jaws I just burned a cannon of dcap... 98 bubba x white mustang x chemD...

wow !!! you actually got some of them to grow ??? i went through 25 & NADA !!! still have 5 left ...... dunno why , maybe hoping for a miracle ....

NOT knocking Jaws/Puma .... love his work !!! but the Decaps were a bust for many a grower .

 

[B4URTIME]

Just obtained the Sour Dubb looking forward to running it in the garden!

 

[stoney917]

wow !!! you actually got some of them to grow ??? i went through 25 & NADA !!! still have 5 left ...... dunno why , maybe hoping for a miracle ....

NOT knocking Jaws/Puma .... love his work !!! but the Decaps were a bust for many a grower .

I don't grow dubb anymore.... Is one of my favs to smoke but damn never could get an acceptable yield from her ... Tried for 3 yrs.... That room gave me 1@k when my og hit 2 n limewarp n Marley pushed n touched 3... N that was my best .... Its the only thing I ran that I ever got less then 1per.. Made up my mind she just not worth the space... My old ecsd is much better in every regard except for an extra month flower...

The dcap I got was a cut found by and grown by member here.. Passed back to jaws ... Not a game changer but nice bubba Dom smoke with fuel back... Probably the best cut found from what ya saying... I never cared to much for it but shit had me confused enough to post banana pics in the dubb thread .... Rotflmao...

 

[Hammerhead]

This is the last SDubb for awhile. I have a lot of new test varieties to flower.

 

[stoney917]

This is the last SDubb for awhile. I have a lot of new test varieties to flower.


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I gotta ask.... What's new on your plate?????

 

[Treetroit City]

This is the last SDubb for awhile. I have a lot of new test varieties to flower.


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Just culled my last dubb from the veg room. Taking down the last one in flower on Friday. Always bitter sweet thinning the herd but I had enough of her as a grower. The shops seemed to like her well enough to pay top ticket prices but that's not enough if I don't enjoy growing her.

On to bigger and better things...

 

[Hammerhead]

I gotta ask.... What's new on your plate?????

lot's of my stuff needs to be grown. New crosses are being made. New stuff from Bodhi and Snowhigh in veg. Always to much going on for this old man.

 

[oceangrownkush]

I'm keeping her around on a persie smoke and occaisional pollination basis. Quick enough to be the little side light smoke plant, genetically predisposed to throwing game changer champion daughters.

 

[Critter]

Im gonna stash away my dubb in a solo then a 1gal to prune after these two i got big going finish. i got more than enough smoke of her and so many other great things on my plate to play with. But SourDxPlatinum Delights shall be made., The GG4xplat D has shown some killer plants so far so i imagine some good ones will show with that pairing as well

 

[Cannavore]

i'm going the HH route lol. starting look look into STS.