SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD

[dank.frank]

I first got Sour Dubb back in 2009 from Ido. I left him with BKGK, Pink Bazooka, KKSC and something else. Right about this same time, I want to say he had just found his SFV x Chem D keeper and it was either finishing up or re-vegging or had just re-vegged and was being mothered out...something like that.

He couldn't remember the name on her - just that it wasn't supposed to be passed around. I was under the impression he was the first east coaster with it. Since I was on a long road trip, I dropped the 3 cuts I had been gifted in 3 different states along the way home.

She spread really quick after that and eventually made it back to me. This was long before the cut had any "dudd" issues.

We had to source her again from the opposite coast a couple years later - and this time the cut came with the dudding. It stayed out of the rooms for a bit until it was sourced a 3rd time and this cut was clean without dudds.

Everytime...it was the same plant / clone. Certainly not an S1. (edited a bit to reflect on what Treetroit said in the post below)



dank.Frank

 

[Treetroit City]

Still curious about the post storm shadow made about the coloring on the fading dubb. Has anyone pulled any reds out of there sour dubb or is everyone growing a s1?

 

[Chunkypigs]

dude, seriously...don't try to put greyskull in the same class of folks as the cookie fam. those guys got weed-famous by trying to rub it's exclusiveness in the face of everyone...afaik there was never an effort to turn dubb into "the next big thing", it was shared freely among respectable friends for them to enjoy for themselves, and to potentially keep others from capitalizing on his special girl(we've all seen first hand what Carte Blanche access creates; look at gorilla glue for example...jw got the bone on that deal.)...

whats wrong with a small circle of friends keeping a special plant for themselves to enjoy? eventually it makes it to the hands of more people worthy of respect...or should scumbags be able to "have" just because they "want"...the way the respect game works, is solid people get love and shitty people do not, literally the epitome of "karma" which I'm sure you are heavily vested in, correct me if I am wrong? or is the issue the speed of reciprocating respect/karma?

Dude you can do what ever you want with your plants, I got more important things to worry about than judging who is worthy to smoke what.

I really respect the example joesy started with the Glue that's why I turned my find loose to everyone, even the a$$holes.

It's called Open Source these days. 800 years ago it was called the Charter of the Forest.

OMG did I really mention Grey and Cookiefam in the same breath???

Without using the satire font??? where's my medicated butthurt lotion?

 

[Grizz]

Still curious about the post storm shadow made about the coloring on the fading dubb. Has anyone pulled any reds out of there sour dubb or is everyone growing a s1?

good question, I really think the cut that you guys have is a s1, the real sour dub never yielded like what you guys are getting , but I am not sure, I recently got her back and I know what I got back is str8 from what I had way back when, will see

 

[Treetroit City]

good question, I really think the cut that you guys have is a s1, the real sour dub never yielded like what you guys are getting , but I am not sure, I recently got her back and I know what I got back is str8 from what I had way back when, will see

You just send her on over when she's ready to go and we'll see what's what.

 

[Hammerhead]

I know my dubb cut is not an s1.. I do have an s1 version lol..

 

[dank.frank]

Dubb was certainly lower yielding. I'd only get about 1.5-2oz per 3 gallon. Considering something like GG#4 would do 3.25-4oz in the same container...Dubb was much more consistent in yields to something like Bubba Kush.

I don't ever recall getting coloring out of her though, to be honest - however, if you look at this pic closely on the right hand side, you can see some color coming out of her in Phillthy's run.

From Phillthy's last run:

Notice there are two plants here. One is in 5 gallon and the other in 3 gallon. Yields are low on her. Even in the 5 gallon, she is topped to 2 mains and a few sides. I doubt there was 3oz on that plant.



dank.Frank

 

[Smokin Joe]

Dans cut is the same cut hammer has. I know this to be fact

 

[whadeezlrg]

Dude you can do what ever you want with your plants, I got more important things to worry about than judging who is worthy to smoke what.

I really respect the example joesy started with the Glue that's why I turned my find loose to everyone, even the a$$holes.

It's called Open Source these days. 800 years ago it was called the Charter of the Forest.

OMG did I really mention Grey and Cookiefam in the same breath???

Without using the satire font??? where's my medicated butthurt lotion?

I think you're missing the point, but that's alright. I can agree to disagree.

 

[Tonygreen]

I reckon if she finishes at 8 you flush at 6? Hell on my Sour B some phenos I gotta start at 5 5.5 they finish so fast.
Sour bubble feeding background probably lends to her wantin to stay green as well. Not everybody can get a fade on sour b she can be a hog.

I am also guessing most try to treat the variegation with several forms of nitrate that can make for a difficult flush sometimes.

All just speculation of course... on my first run now... I dont think ill see color in these temps im gonna have at the end lol...

 

[Hammerhead]

My cut has that Variegation trait. if yours has that its the same 1 I have. It can look pretty bad on some cuts. Fixing them to almost 100% can be done with higher levels of Mg using Epsom.. I have never got any color on mine. I would think it could be done doing a cold flush. This is when I see most plants have color. I have never been able to get good yields.. I know some have said they can do 8-10oz.. I have a nice 1 in flower now. Will take pics when ready..

If anyone thinks they have a fake send me an oz I will tell ya LMAO.

 

[dansbuds]

Tony has the same cut i do , so i know his is the real deal . as far as yields ..... my 2 had over a 3 month veg & were almost 4' tall & topped many many times before flower , so they were exceptionally big plants going in .
the verigation ..... i still haven't been able to get them totally green ! they are some finicky bitches fer sure ! 300ppm foliar of epsom & epson added to the nutes hasn't helped . I was thinking about adding some worm castings on top of my pots for the extra N , but i don't know how that would react with coco & my nutes .

 

[Critter]

My SourDubb first two rounds had no verigation, now a cut is showing it so id say that HH is right on that trait, although my Chernobyl keeper ive been running 6+ year is showing it too this round in veg...things that make you go hmmmm

 

[Critter]

My first run with the Dubb in the main big room not vegd long, temps 74-76

My second run vegged 2months in a 5x5tent under a 1000hps with temps more.. in the night73-75deg in the day78-80deg

second round yielded ok better than the first plant . Much tighter nugs...all have a terp profile similar to gg4 w/ a splash of sourd, no mocha present. I took the last round at day63 and its great smoke day or night,but strong

 

[silver hawaiian]

It's funny, mine showed the variegation this time around, but never before.

Hammer, aside from lots of epsom salts, have you noticed anything else that snaps her out of it? I tried to monkey with mine a bit before flowering, but ultimately just flipped 'em. I could be crazy, but she seemed to snap out of it once she took off in flower.

 

[who dat is]

My cut has that Variegation trait. if yours has that its the same 1 I have. It can look pretty bad on some cuts. Fixing them to almost 100% can be done with higher levels of Mg using Epsom.. I have never got any color on mine. I would think it could be done doing a cold flush. This is when I see most plants have color. I have never been able to get good yields.. I know some have said they can do 8-10oz.. I have a nice 1 in flower now. Will take pics when ready..

If anyone thinks they have a fake send me an oz I will tell ya LMAO.

Tony has the same cut i do , so i know his is the real deal . as far as yields ..... my 2 had over a 3 month veg & were almost 4' tall & topped many many times before flower , so they were exceptionally big plants going in .
the verigation ..... i still haven't been able to get them totally green ! they are some finicky bitches fer sure ! 300ppm foliar of epsom & epson added to the nutes hasn't helped . I was thinking about adding some worm castings on top of my pots for the extra N , but i don't know how that would react with coco & my nutes .

My SourDubb first two rounds had no verigation, now a cut is showing it so id say that HH is right on that trait, although my Chernobyl keeper ive been running 6+ year is showing it too this round in veg...things that make you go hmmmm

It's funny, mine showed the variegation this time around, but never before.

Hammer, aside from lots of epsom salts, have you noticed anything else that snaps her out of it? I tried to monkey with mine a bit before flowering, but ultimately just flipped 'em. I could be crazy, but she seemed to snap out of it once she took off in flower.

I think this begs the question, Does Dubb perform differently in a synthetic vs. organic nutrient regimen? It sounds like all you guys are using synthetic. (didn't you fall off the organic bandwagon Silver?) Does anybody have experience running her in a full on organic setup and still have the variegation problem?

 

[Cannavore]

i dont have the cut at the moment but when i did i never got variegation on her at any stage in notill/rols indoors and out.

 

[Hammerhead]

PBP is 80% Organic 20% Mineral salt. Plants don't know this is not all Organic. I cant see any difference between an all Organic mix and PBP. That's why I have used it for as long as I have.

I have used kiss water only soil mix 100% organic.. Plants still have the same issue. From what I see the MG levels need to be higher but even at these higher levels its still there just not easy to see.. This is the case for most cultivars that have Variegation..Chem D can also be brought back to look good with higher MG levels. If you have a mix with the right MG levels you wont notice this on any plant with this trait.

 

[Grizz]

i dont have the cut at the moment but when i did i never got variegation on her at any stage in notill/rols indoors and out.

I grow in coco and never had the variegation but myself and about everyone that had her back then had duds, seems the dud problem has magically healed itself, whatever it was

 

[Greyskull]

Hey greyskull have you ever seen sour dubb x sour bubble?

Aloha
no man i hadn't seen any of that. maybe some pictures, but nothing that has gotten "reviewed". Always happy to check things out though hahaha.

Still curious about the post storm shadow made about the coloring on the fading dubb. Has anyone pulled any reds out of there sour dubb or is everyone growing a s1?

The Dubb I just flowered out (that looked like it was gonna be 5z and ended up 3 and change hahaha) got the cool red and yellow fade. before (in the pics posted previously) i was growing indoors in a controlled environment... but now I am growing her outside. well, flowering her outside anyways. greenhousing it. but i did get the color fade. almost as prominent as the previously posted pics...

this was my first run with the cut since it had been imported. it was fed biocanna in promix.
its early spring time - we'll see if i can get it to go down with the Dubb I am flipping around the 5th of May (take it down around July 4 but really whatever is 58 days haha) since it will be a summer go 'round.