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SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD
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All the info anyone would need about Sdubb is right here. I have a few in flower now. Will take pics when ready.. If you find a Sdubb cut you should see some cameo leaf variegation. Everyone I know with the real cut has this on the leaves. There are pics of this in this thread...
Check out the San Diego's Finest threads. Adub was made by them Dago boys, great shit. Sour Dub X Aliendog Ether
I seem to remember hearing that A-Dub was one of the first palnts tested to crack the 30% mark. That was long before RB-26 was crushing it with the GG#4 and Banana OG.
I think I resolved this spraying mine with eagle 20. I have the original cuts that were given to me I saw this didn't worry but as I always do I veg a bit and spray with Forbid SC and Eagle 20 Quarantine. And they have not shown me any of this sense I sprayed them 3 months or so ago. They have been vegging and bonsai. Call me crazy. Growth Rate is excellent and good as any of my other cuts.
Daddysdank
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Here is a cpl pics of my sour dubble that's ib veg right now,also a pic of some clones I took a few wks ago they are all in solo cups now and vegging I put them in solo as soon as they popped roots as she seems ta be a lil slower in veg..I'll be running a full run of 10-12 of these ladies in a 5X5 under 2 xxl hoods and 1200watts of Hortilux hps in about 60 days as all my plants get atleast 60days veg closer ta 75-80. But here's a few pics and the one with 2 leafs is SourDubble on top and gg#4 on bottom..I'd say it's safe ta say where the glue got her leaf structure..looks ta me like the glue got her leaf structure from the dubble. @Tonygreen let me kno if ya have any problems gettin roots on your girls but you should mine came about 3000 miles and rooted great..
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When I first got the Sour Dubb she had the variegation. First plant I flowered of it, had the variegation all the way thru flower. Since then I have been feeding her with Jack's 20-20-20 in veg, and I don't get the variegation anymore at all.
Edit: here's a pic of one that's at 52 days
Daddysdank
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I've never had the varigation show up on mine but in have always stayed happy since rooted..and I always add a lil extra cal-mag every few earrings,I dnt know if that had anything to do with it or just being healthy all the time they never showed it..I grow in ffof and promix and add extra guano,and throw in some mycos but she hasn't showed up just yet..
All I know have it some where. it never goes away. you can hide it but my cut it comes back always no matter what is done. Plant will be perfect with added N/CA/MG foliar feedings. If I stop it comes back. it shows the most in flower. Sirsmokealot has probably ran it longer than most. His cut has it. It's not everywhere only some leaves have it. Some of the s1 seeds I made have this same trait.
I believe it is a genetic abnormality from the sour bubble heritage. I have observed the same in sour B phenos and i know how hard her genes carry over.
Have a read here...
http://www.plantcell.org/content/11/1/57.full
Have a read here...
http://www.plantcell.org/content/11/1/57.full
My cut of kromes white has the same thing. Any little thing that is off will make it pissed. Keep it happy and not an issue.
Daddysdank
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Actually after looking at PF new picture of the varigation it's seems that my cut does have it.. I have read through this entire thread and seen the pics earlier of it but I only use my phone as I have no internet at my home so I was unable to see them clearly and thought my cut didn't have it,but now I can see these pics alot better and can clearly see my cut does have it. But it only shows up in some leaves here and there even if everything is nice and healthy,but it does seem to show up alot more and faster if I have skipped a feeding for whatever reasons,but thanks for the nice up close pics PF..
Mine showed on Lucas GH micro and bloom in rw... as it vegged. sprayed it and they are getting the same feed and now I do not see it. Ive taken one cut up potted it to 3 gallon coco this is also ware I begin top and begin to use Cyco nutrients so Im curious if I see it again.
TreeTroit funny you mention that. I also Have a phenol I found in a pack of TK X White from Cannarado. I was experiencing this with her as well.
I sprayed her and the same thing She took off with more vigor and it went away.
The reason this all came to mind for me in the first place. For years I experienced issues with cuts in veg getting this plus yellowing between the veins. I tried everything. Cal/Mag Kelp, Aloe you name it...Spraying all sorts of things and watering all sorts of things. Sometimes it went away like a band aid and then other times no change. Asked several people and nothing. I was using my AC water for years. I switched to Tap over night the problem went away. So I begun to think maybe It was pathogens.
So I thought why not spray Actinovate, Eagle 20, and Forbid and so I did and now I spray anything I get new with these as well.
Is it not a known fact if it is disease or virus it can spread through the seeds? Im not saying Im right by any means Im just sharing my experience.
TreeTroit funny you mention that. I also Have a phenol I found in a pack of TK X White from Cannarado. I was experiencing this with her as well.
I sprayed her and the same thing She took off with more vigor and it went away.
The reason this all came to mind for me in the first place. For years I experienced issues with cuts in veg getting this plus yellowing between the veins. I tried everything. Cal/Mag Kelp, Aloe you name it...Spraying all sorts of things and watering all sorts of things. Sometimes it went away like a band aid and then other times no change. Asked several people and nothing. I was using my AC water for years. I switched to Tap over night the problem went away. So I begun to think maybe It was pathogens.
So I thought why not spray Actinovate, Eagle 20, and Forbid and so I did and now I spray anything I get new with these as well.
Is it not a known fact if it is disease or virus it can spread through the seeds? Im not saying Im right by any means Im just sharing my experience.
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It doesn't degrade the quality its just a visual thing.
Spraying with E20 or a Miteacide won't make the plants healthy unless you had PM or Mites. It's just a coincidence you notice an improvement after you sprayed IMO..
Spraying with E20 or a Miteacide won't make the plants healthy unless you had PM or Mites. It's just a coincidence you notice an improvement after you sprayed IMO..
Im sure you understand I do all of this a preventive. And give the plants plenty of time to get the chemicals out of their system. But I guess Im the only one to think disease so Ill chalk it up to coincidence then..thanks
First time I ever saw that leaf coloration was on Chem D and then later in other chem family line plants and seed lots.
I actually use that as an indicator when sorting seeds lots to isolate more chem leaning offspring. I've always said - it's simply a Mg thing. Maybe that is not the case - but it always cleared up if I watered a couple times with epsom salt.
I never experienced it with Sour Bubble or it's lines - but as you can clearly see - it happens on the Sour Dubb...
That has always been on of the things I think gives indication as to the father of Sour Bubble being a ECSD generation.
I grew a LOT of Rez seeds...a lot. I only ever saw that discoloration, consistently, on his chem line offerings or on the actual family of chem clones themselves. (not that I've grown them all...but those I have)
I can't honestly say if that is the case across the TopDawg offerings built on chem lines. I've grown the Corey...but don't honestly recall seeing that anomaly in the leaves...and there is no doubt of her chem heritage!
So, I've never been concrete on WHERE it comes from, but I've always maintained it is caused by a lack of Mg - not anything else. Just Mg. (based on my own experience - not saying everyone's garden is the same, obviously)
dank.Frank
I actually use that as an indicator when sorting seeds lots to isolate more chem leaning offspring. I've always said - it's simply a Mg thing. Maybe that is not the case - but it always cleared up if I watered a couple times with epsom salt.
I never experienced it with Sour Bubble or it's lines - but as you can clearly see - it happens on the Sour Dubb...
That has always been on of the things I think gives indication as to the father of Sour Bubble being a ECSD generation.
I grew a LOT of Rez seeds...a lot. I only ever saw that discoloration, consistently, on his chem line offerings or on the actual family of chem clones themselves. (not that I've grown them all...but those I have)
I can't honestly say if that is the case across the TopDawg offerings built on chem lines. I've grown the Corey...but don't honestly recall seeing that anomaly in the leaves...and there is no doubt of her chem heritage!
So, I've never been concrete on WHERE it comes from, but I've always maintained it is caused by a lack of Mg - not anything else. Just Mg. (based on my own experience - not saying everyone's garden is the same, obviously)
dank.Frank
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I have Corey growing now... I have never seen this on anything but the Sdubb and her sibling's. Chem D was so bad I didn't keep it. I just cant stand ugly plants. I have never had a MG deficiency look like that. Its only on some leaves right next to perfect leaves.
Daddysdank
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Just thought I'd throw a pic of the Dubbs up that I just up potted to a #5 from a #2 as she was getting root bound on me..went ahead and up potted her as her roots seemed to be alot thicker than the glue that I'll be up potting in about 2wks..even though she's a lil smaller but we all kno how the glue can stretch out.
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