sour diesel sativa?

[hidingtree]

ok , lets see ..... is sour diesel in people's opinion :
1) a sativa dominant plant

2) an indica dominant plant

3) a certain ratio of each ....

ok so we're talking the original sour diesel cut from (we'll call him kid here
kid in albany . we could include REZ's sour diesel too . i don't know that it is exactly the same or if it tends to be more sativa than the original . i can't quite afford the ibl seeds yet. (bought some D39 though ) any way enjoy .
but lets not have a pissin match though . just peoples opinion .

well according to the story , sour diesel is comprised of the following make up,not exactly sure .
so anyone who knows better please correct me .
ok so in the make up of sour we have (allegedly)

Chemdawg (unknown- possible 100% indica )(although could be an equatorial /tropical strain(sativa ) showing indica dominance through an affie or other mountain climate strain .maybe its 50/50 and its that killer combo -who knows . ?)
Mass Superskunk (50-70%indica)
NL (from sensi- indicates pure indica 100%)
DNL ( maybe 50% indica (cus it was a skunk which usually would tell me there's afghani in it .. unknown by me though .maybe more of a ratio of indo )
ok so if the orig is alledged to be the above ..then i would say that the orig sour is indica dominate ... although many speak of REZ's ibl as more sativa???
ok so now is the time to post your thoughts on this .please remember this is really opinion based since some factors in the making of the sour (whether forced ,mistaken, or by natural means ) is kind of unknown genetic lineage .if we would like we could include personal smoke experience (haven't smoked REZ's yet. but i will, oh yes ,some day i will (yay!)). also we could include growth pattern/structure flowering times etc. (the flowereing of some of REZ's ibl seem to be a bit longer than kid's original . however as i mentioned before i havent smoked Reservoir's ibl taken at 65 days( or at all) so i dunno ) it is of quite legendary status ..... and it is one of my favorite smokes . it brings back that memory of the first hydro skunks/afghani's i ever tasted ... it was funny though cus at that time(80's) i would smoke out with these old school brickweed heads who were twice my age and they would swear " that shit is laced with somethin'! that was some funny sheeeet !

many blessings, hidingtree

 

[Guest]

Well you tell me







Rez's work

 

[stoney420]

when i think of sour d i dont think of indicas thats for sure... spacy sativa buds... In veg they look like indica dom but once in flower they show there sativa structure.... You could probably find a more indica dom pheno out of the seeds than you would see out of the cut.... peace

 

[hidingtree]

wow ... those are NICE! ok so they show the sativa side of REZ's work . does any one have an indica dom pheno? i see more indica from the cut of orig . i don't have many good pics of any vegginr right now ... but heres the difference i notice with leaf structure (excuse the coloring ... ph soared and temps plummeted with this run )


the difference of the leaves is what i notice .... this pic has the fatter more indica type leaves .agree? they are similar yet different . this is the original clone of sour diesel which was gifted to me by some one close to the origination of the sour .i'll post a pic of one in veg a bit later . many blessings, hidingtree

 

[hidingtree]

ok so here goes .
here's pics of some fresh sour diesel clones :



notice that mutant leaf ? it happens on variable nodes of the plant and has since i was introduced to it . no one really knows why .it doesn't grow out of it either .
ok the sour mom i have now (sorry it was recently cut back to make some clones and reduce its size hence the three fingered leaves all over it .):



here is a sour clone that was in stasis for a long time and is now re engaging in vegetative growth ( looks like it had trouble deciding what to do . )

 

[hidingtree]

hmmm . hey stoned silly . dam dude that does look bad ass the more i look at it ... it does indeed have a slight variation . leaning definitely toward the sativa side ..... wonder who in the mix exhibits that trait through the sour diesel (ibl or v3 i'm assuming ) ya? they look skunky as a skunkbutt r they?heee ! blessings , hidingtree

 

[Guest]

I had 2 pheno's the 1 you see (sativa 75 day) and the other was indica/kush sided and finished in 60 days.
I use that indica/kush for seeds matched to an SD male with trichs all over his balls lol..

I grew out those seeds and used 2 kickass males and pollenated the sativa pheno SD ibl.

I now have 2 girls (culled 10 or more no room) growing from those seeds and a vial full of pollen from 2 of her bros. I just used some on 1 or 2 of his sister buds.(pervert) lol

I love Rez SD taste so I am crossing a bud of every girl I have to it.

Bogglegum
Blockhead
Romulan
Trainwreck x Suge kush
Oguana x Suge kush
M Tundra x G13
and whatever else I grow...

 

[Guest]

maybe its the closest thing to a sat most have had in a known strain,,,

tried SD and its indica

 

[Guest]

i know of the albany sd clone only cut ... she is more sativa & grows in an upright sativa manner ... has branches with medium lenth nodes ... dense buds along the branches , not just at the top of the branch ... deep diesel fuel aroma ... pic forthcoming

peace ... nexus

 

[Guest]

now ive not grown diesel.. the buz i had from smoking it alone implyd indica.

i have no clue about any cuts ill have tot ake your word for it :O

good to know tho i know you know a sativa c99xssh

 

[Guest]

Well maybe I should have shown some pics of my reworked SD..

 

[hidingtree]

hmmmmm....

hmmmmm....

:wink: .... do agree with nepthaze on the indica ... BUT, remember because of the notable potency of the chemdawg ... and its exact lineage being unknown this is best kept as AN OPINION ONLY THREAD ! so , no need for anyone to prove anything about anything . too many times we have had the battle of the posts . it kinda ruins the thread people . so tell the stories , post the pics , do the deal yo . i can only go by what i know of personal experience with this . i had original diesel when there was a kid at a music event that had it.i had never heard of it . and some old timers were like yup that kid has the bing bang zoom and has sure made a name for himself . and i was like wha? no way . then i smoked it and was sent back in time to 10 years prior and was like dam dude no way ... he was from the area of upstate so that coincides with jj's story sort of .... the sour part though has been told to me a couple different ways .... the bagseed story is believable but some others may know different ....... :wink: many blessings all , hidingtree

 

[hidingtree]

damn stoned silly they look good . do they have the slight mutant leaf trait ... ?and r u gonna tell me how they smoke or what ?( the skunk lookin one's ya posted first

hey nepthaze! ya know whats funny ? you said "tho i know you know a sativa c99xssh" how did you know ..... did somebody tell you? whats funny is that one a me m8's brought 2 clones of sour diesel from another grower .... and one of them was a c99 hybrid instead of a sour .... haven't run it through yet but we'll let ya'll know . many blessings,hidingtree

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I'm of the opinion, from growing the IBL and V3 and smoking the cut, 60/40 sativa/indica. Just my opinion.

 

[JJ-NYC]

The Sour came out of my friends room. It's a certain mix of both, but more sativa dominated. No one is really sure of the exact breeding origins of the Sour. I first thought it was a Underdawg/Daywrecker X DNL cross, I now believe it is a Chem Dawg X DNL cross. I believe it's the DNL and not the Mass. SS because i've grown out both strains and they both have characteristisics of the Sour. I have not grown out Mass SS so my opinion could change. But we know the Mass SS does not have the same strech as the Sour. Mass SS grows shorter and has fatter buds. Where does that sativa growth come from? It has the same growth structure as the DNL, its growth and exoctic flavor combined with the flavor and strength of the Dawg is the Sour Diesel in my opinion. We do know that all three strains were present in his room at one time so we will never really know the real truth.

 

[hidingtree]

hey JJ! that is cool you are here . what is the lineage of the DNL and what is the age of it ... i.e. seed from some source some time or ????? blessings , hidingtree

 

[Guest]

I sure can tell you how it smokes.. The high is very unsativa, it hits hard and fast. With major lung expansion..The problem is it only last me 1 hour as compared to Bogglegum which last 2 hr..

I am looking to use SD's great taste and 1 of my other girls to kick it up a notch.. thats why I am crossing it to everything...

 

[hidingtree]

and did the sour you speak of have the mutant leaf? that to me has been a trademark of the cut i have for as long as i have had it ....

 

[hidingtree]

yo stoned silly ! i can't wait to see those romudiesels or dieselromu's or what ever they're gonna be .peace .
yeah that chemmy taste .... it keeps growin on ya don't it?

 

[Guest]

I wouldn't say Chemdog was 100% indica like in the first post, not even close IMO. It's leaf structure is certainly indica dom but stretch and bud structure look like it's more on the sativa side of the family tree.