Sour Amnesia Hortilab

[TheDarkStorm]

here you go...the original picture...the genebank mango haze mother selected by shanti baba in 2002...from f1 seed...before any mango haze seeds were made for mr nice....remember the 122 was already a cutting.
​​​​​​skunk hazeC was rank...most phenotypes stunk like hospital anticeptic....the skunk hazeA was even worse...believe me if it was in ther you would know about it..cus it would completely overpower any mango tones.

 

[CannaT]

Guys its thread about my Haze cutting not about Mr.Nice seeds lineage please stop and admin delete those posts....my cutting aint related to any haze C and Haze C progeny I smoked a lot of it and this is old school haze like it used to be...also the dark storm plant from catalogue is A5 not C5 but it dont metter to me they were brothers so both can pass all characteristics from Haze gene pool...it cant be that Haze A only put some traits and Haze C some traits.....cannabis breeding dont behave like this....

Please stop with Mr.Nice qotes and Shantis pictures....if I want something out of Shanti 2 phone calls and I can have it...

 

[CannaT]

Cosmic Giggle

 

[Donald Mallard]

there u go , all the last few replies were deleted ,
they were off topic and as u said belong on another forum ,,
carry on ....

 

[CannaT]

there u go , all the last few replies were deleted ,
they were off topic and as u said belong on another forum ,,
carry on ....

 

[CannaT]

Man that sounds pretty great. Def liking the orange incense zest type I kno what your referring to. I think the haze males are dominant but some of the narrow leaf afghan genes in some f1s or selfed lines play a bigger role then we think. Recombination, distant relations finding each other.example like C5 compared to afghan haze look same on paper.... but in real life look and smell completly different. I've been researching alot of diverse narrow leaf silk road/middle east types to make killer f1s. Tashkurgan, xinjiang, ravasi khorosan, spin ghar. Many different terpenes with low cbd high thcv is the plan

This is my favourite tipe of Haze (hybrid) that orange incense zest....Yes I also think that...cannabis is very hard to breed for uniformity....traits can be passed from the ancestor which was long ago in lineage....i growed many strains and seeds few of them were which I liked to call uniform crop....very similar phenos...most were all over the place..but this uniformity isnt like tomato or something like that....if i had 3 phenos i will call those seeds uniform....most have 5-6 phenos...cannabis genes are very hard to control.

Sam also say that....he said that after growed and saw billions of plants, also by my small expirence compared to His I strongly belive in that.

 

[Dr.Young]

I just got a fresh batch of MNS Mango Haze.... Super Silver Haze... and some U2 which is EarlyQueen x Haze AC..... I got 6 MangoHaze already cracked in the shotglass about to plant them now.... Excited to compare these Mango Haze to the Nigerian Mango Haze cross I did and have going now.
Also excited to compare SSH to Mangohaze and Im sure i'll find my holy grail for Buzz/Effect... and My holy grail for SOG/growing....

There really is not many pictures of properly grown Mangohaze or SSH online right now done under current LED technology... All of the legendary pictures are from HID grows back in the day... I hope to find something very special, and bring things up to date and maybe inspire some of the younger generation to try these genetics that have been drowned out by mediocre but trendy named things.... I hope to give some insight on to the condition of the current stock at MNS to for those that maybe doubt what is available today.....I am fucking ecstatic right now. Many many years ive wanted to try these seeds straight from MNS.... and to do it with such a high performance setup like the Mars Hydro FC-e300 in a 3x3 tent.... Is a dream..... With the right genetics this light can easily do 2gpw.... So I should have no trouble getting these MangoHaze to show their fullest potential, and take a legit peek into how good the currently available Hazes are from MNS...

 

[Piff_cat]

This is my favourite tipe of Haze (hybrid) that orange incense zest....Yes I also think that...cannabis is very hard to breed for uniformity....traits can be passed from the ancestor which was long ago in lineage....i growed many strains and seeds few of them were which I liked to call uniform crop....very similar phenos...most were all over the place..but this uniformity isnt like tomato or something like that....if i had 3 phenos i will call those seeds uniform....most have 5-6 phenos...cannabis genes are very hard to control.

Sam also say that....he said that after growed and saw billions of plants, also by my small expirence compared to His I strongly belive in that.

Especially since we don't kno which landraces are native, acclimated in New home from wild progenitors, a mix of wild home and adapted home etc. If the in situ areas for wild populations could be determined it would go a long way into detangeling genotype and founder alleles even if a couple wild homes traits were identified they could be applied to in/out groupings. Terp profile and cannabindoid fractions traced by mitochondrial haolotypes could help

 

[CannaT]

I just got a fresh batch of MNS Mango Haze.... Super Silver Haze... and some U2 which is EarlyQueen x Haze AC..... I got 6 MangoHaze already cracked in the shotglass about to plant them now.... Excited to compare these Mango Haze to the Nigerian Mango Haze cross I did and have going now.
Also excited to compare SSH to Mangohaze and Im sure i'll find my holy grail for Buzz/Effect... and My holy grail for SOG/growing....

There really is not many pictures of properly grown Mangohaze or SSH online right now done under current LED technology... All of the legendary pictures are from HID grows back in the day... I hope to find something very special, and bring things up to date and maybe inspire some of the younger generation to try these genetics that have been drowned out by mediocre but trendy named things.... I hope to give some insight on to the condition of the current stock at MNS to for those that maybe doubt what is available today.....I am fucking ecstatic right now. Many many years ive wanted to try these seeds straight from MNS.... and to do it with such a high performance setup like the Mars Hydro FC-e300 in a 3x3 tent.... Is a dream..... With the right genetics this light can easily do 2gpw.... So I should have no trouble getting these MangoHaze to show their fullest potential, and take a legit peek into how good the currently available Hazes are from MNS...

Legendary lines are those,I prefere more Mango Haze to SSH...I will follow your grow .good luck with it !

Never smoked Nigerian Hz by top dawg but heard its great one of the best !

 

[wumpyc]

What lights are you using? Tuning in. All the best with your grow

 

[CannaT]

What lights are you using? Tuning in. All the best with your grow

Hi,Philips Master Son-T Pia Green Power 600 W

 

[CannaT]

 

[CannaT]

D55....7-10 days more..

First 3 weeks was 12/12...than only 10/14...so Probably I will have it under 70 days...will not hurry with harvest...if its need more I will give more.
last 5 days just mix of tap/ro around 400ppm.....they start to drink less and less.....so harvest is close.

 

[flower~power]

 

[LostTribe]

Today I start with flowering nutes 9-12-36 + cal/mag and bit of ME.

Feeding from begining was just watering with tap water.

at 10 day I ad 1-1-1 at aorund 700 ppm

Then at day 14 bit of calcium nitrate at 900 ppm

An today 9-12-36 + cal/mag and bit of ME. at 1200 ppm.ppm will increse till 1600 ppm max at week 6 then again lowering in week 7 and more down in week 8

I think that it will be 10,5 weeks max flower so i plan to make this feedding regime.

Nutrients,tap,RO...

from now till 49 day will be this feeding then around 50-56 day PK boost 2 times....at aroun 1100 ppm

and from then just TAP,RO..

Looking absolutely delicious man! Thank you for including the feed amounts.

What medium are you growing her in?

Are you feeding nutes daily since day 14? or how often?

I had some issues when I started growing the hazes especially NH as I was feeding same as other plants unrelated to the hazes. In hydroton I found that if I went above .8 or .9ec they started to tip burn. I am soaking 3 more MNS Nevil's Haze and have a couple more OHaze I started.

Thanks for the info!
LT

 

[CannaT]

Looking absolutely delicious man! Thank you for including the feed amounts.

What medium are you growing her in?

Are you feeding nutes daily since day 14? or how often?

I had some issues when I started growing the hazes especially NH as I was feeding same as other plants unrelated to the hazes. In hydroton I found that if I went above .8 or .9ec they started to tip burn. I am soaking 3 more MNS Nevil's Haze and have a couple more OHaze I started.

Thanks for the info!
LT

Hi,LostTribe

Im growing her in soil with bit of coco for better air flow.

At peek of flowering on 9-10 weeks cultivars I give nutes every watering but no more than 1.0 EC....when giving nutrients I put RO and mix them with cal/mag when using salts...organic just in tap water....soil can lower the PH but cant make it UP so 7.2 PH in soil is very good. But I like to put a bit of Nitirc acid for lowering a bit of PH and for micro feeding of N in flower while water with tap mine is around 7.3 ph.

Sometimes I give boosters (means higher EC no more than 1.6 at week's 4 and 6 before that I flush the supstrate and let it dry but not very dry...last feeding was at day 49...with NPK+ME,cal/mag at EC 0,66 +,Bi* *izz organic NPK bio grow I gave them 4 ml/L all together were 2,3 EC...but orgnaic nutrients are 1/3 at best usable right after give them to it ,was around 1,6. EC in reality...and after that I mix 50/50 tap,ro ppm around 400 to flush them...

I dont water every day I water or give nutrients every 2-3 day...I give them a lot water then wait till its very dry than again like flood and dry out.

this is nice grown I think little bit underfeeded I lose yild but get more flavour. ...yild dosent meter cuz its only for my use.

Yes Hazes are very hard to grow I also have trouble with this Haze50% in soil she eat N like crazy.....she got new soil,I added CalNitrate and still eat all this and start yellowing in week 4....rely crazy so key with hazes is calcium nitrate all the long till real flowers start to build up I think.

 

[Piff_cat]

Have you tried supplementing foliar calcium? I find flowering the haze they want less and less nitrogen but love calcium all way thru. Since calcium is immobile it can become a limiting factor fast. I find dolomite lime w kelp and humic acid really helps when cutting down n. I also think your plant looks great and imo stress at end of bloom leads to potent herb. Just better when planned lol

 

[CannaT]

Have you tried supplementing foliar calcium? I find flowering the haze they want less and less nitrogen but love calcium all way thru. Since calcium is immobile it can become a limiting factor fast. I find dolomite lime w kelp and humic acid really helps when cutting down n. I also think your plant looks great and imo stress at end of bloom leads to potent herb. Just better when planned lol

I dont like to feed plants foliar while they flowering...in vegetation yes, but not in flower.

it is difficult to predict and make patterns in working with living beings, so I work more or less by instinct and as needed, I am not a proponent of too much fertilizer in the soil ... because the soil as a medium is extremely complex.

I think that in hydroponic cultivation this can be more pronounced, because many more parameters are under our own control.

 

[Piff_cat]

yea i can see your point with the foliar in flower for sure. i suppose cal nitrate dance mat be just a trial and error thing til ya find the balance for the individual cultivar

 

[Piff_cat]

have you ever considered it could be nl1 x haze? its always been strange that the initial haze f1 was never preserved. even if it wasnt the best combo alot of people must have purchased it as it was first haze release. regseeds has it on here, check out one of the pics. the fade on fan leaves and bud structure looks similar...