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MROrganicGreenz

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I've been trying to research and understand what to expect with this future stock of seeds. So If I'm correct the BB X WR will be f1 stock with more uniformity to one another , to where as an f2 generation starts to differ more, and so on? So I should have 16 different variants of seed from that mom? So technically I could pop 16 seeds and. Get a good feel of the stock it offers?

Heya,

I'm afraid this is a little bit toooo much of a simplification. While Mendels Rules can be partly applied to selfing, it isnt such an easy fit. Have a look here: https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/107/7/635/2622950

There are also some aspects you cannot consider, since they are totally random. Crossing over happens all the time. Plasmatic heritage, heterosomal heritage, polysomie and some other things I cannot go into depth also.

The Dunnett square in your example is only working with two traits. There are thousands of genes and a lot of them are involved in the phenotypical expression.

You also have to differentiate between genotype and phenotype. Dunnett square shows you 16 genotypes, but 4 phenotypes. Which still doesnt mean that you will see all combinations by 4-16 seeds. Selfing a F1 can result in big surprises and isnt calculatable. Just pop a few and then a few more. Can be gold but also can be shti. You never know. But dont expect homogeneity. There could be 2 meter high sativa leaning plants as well as 50 cm one-headbud-indica plants. Im really excited for your results. Keep us updated
 

stinkybudz420

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White rhino x Blueberry has great germination. Dropped them into rockwool
today. I'll only be keeping the winners, and my legal limit . Will hunt through the blueberry s2 seeds another time.
 

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ChefGreen

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If it's not old stock for sale right now, possibly a business partner still breeding? Or someone purchased the company name perhaps?
They were one of the last to pick up stock from Xochi. The packs are official. Turkle going (Day 31 F) blue triangle just out cloner. 2nd run with both…first run did not survive our humidity later in flower. They don’t have any of the Espirtu or hard hitters. They gave Stagger D as a freebie 🤯🤯
 

Boo

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Matt and I have been friends way before he started G&M...he sent me about 15 different strains he was working with at the very beginning...mr.wu, highland queen, TK, many strains you don't hear about as much as his newer gear...next run will be G&M gear...
 

stinkybudz420

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Matt and I have been friends way before he started G&M...he sent me about 15 different strains he was working with at the very beginning...mr.wu, highland queen, TK, many strains you don't hear about as much as his newer gear...next run will be G&M gear...
That's awesome! Grow those bad girls out in memory of your friend.
 
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ChefGreen

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I have an espiritu soaking in water right now but I don't see it opening yet. Day 2. My last one of thise too :( 🙏
Free stagger d ! Rocking! When I ordered my blueberry s1 seeds he tossed me a free pack of blue triangle. Feel free to post a pic of your g&m stuff. This thread I personally won't be continuing, but I'll certainly stop back in to see what's up if people comment. Started a clean thread with a new title since what I'm doing is no longer goat and monkey. Love that man's works. I wouldn't have my favorite plant without him. Makes my days so much easier.
Espirtu is a slow germination..took us 6 days to tail her.
 

ChefGreen

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I have an espiritu soaking in water right now but I don't see it opening yet. Day 2. My last one of thise too :( 🙏
Free stagger d ! Rocking! When I ordered my blueberry s1 seeds he tossed me a free pack of blue triangle. Feel free to post a pic of your g&m stuff. This thread I personally won't be continuing, but I'll certainly stop back in to see what's up if people comment. Started a clean thread with a new title since what I'm doing is no longer goat and monkey. Love that man's works. I wouldn't have my favorite plant without him. Makes my days so much easier.
Blue triangle just out of cloner…probably flowered in 5 weeks.
 

stinkybudz420

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Blue triangle just out of cloner…probably flowered in 5 weeks.
I'm eager to try that ! I haven't grown one yet myself. I hear it's tasty. Heres a few pictures I found on G&M Facebook page one of which is for BT. Thought they were pretty funny/awesome so I saved them to my phone 😂
 

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Cannavore

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I only purchased the blueberry because his other plants I'd grown were amazing. Could had gotten BB seeds for 5$ other places, figured it had to be a special plant. I've been trying to trace the plant through the forums. I read matt had said he received the clone labeled blueberry from bodhiseeds. That's far as I've gotten so far. If anyone's knows more please feel free to chime in! TIA
Years ago bodhi mentioned he thought it was a Blueberry x Bubba or something like that but more recently I think some folks were saying it originates from Dutch passions blueberry seeds
 

stinkybudz420

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Years ago bodhi mentioned he thought it was a Blueberry x Bubba or something like that but more recently I think some folks were saying it originates from Dutch passions blueberry seeds
I've smoked plenty of bubba k, i could maybe see or taste some of that unflunce on this plant however the prodiminant flavor comes across as blueberry. It really has a lot going on in that department, many flavors coming together just right. I would like to have it tested to find out what she's holding for terps & cbd . The shop near me does have a machine to test for 50$ however it's not good enough to show specific terps.
 

stinkybudz420

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This was the s1 yesterday for a visual. I haven't really trimmed it in the past week or so just some LST to slow and strengthen her growing. I was going to flower it next run and keep clones (thats how i cycle) . Instead I have some queens to deal with so it will have to wait.
This plant has been feed advanced nutrients with distilled water. I've had good results with it however they just discontinued my ph perfect coco line 😂 . I bought more while I could but next year I may have to switch it up.
 

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stinkybudz420

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I noticed my plant does not have long thin fans like the mom did in the first picture ( off the G&M website ).
The 2nd pic is from g&M website as well.
3rd and 4th pic are of the bbs1 just before the seed run.
 

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stinkybudz420

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Years ago bodhi mentioned he thought it was a Blueberry x Bubba or something like that but more recently I think some folks were saying it originates from Dutch passions blueberry seeds
I was reading more into the history of blueberry. Says dj short created it in the 70s through thai / purple thai /Afghani.. I had also read that Dutch passion recieved their Blueberry from dj short? So I was thinking this has zero bubba and it's just an s1 of the original blueberry plant (an f1 seed?) created long ago. To me this s1 seems to be an Afghani leaner by the looks of it. I'm not familiar with thia or purple thai as I've never smoked or grown any. Someone told me that selfing an f1 can bring out exciting things. If that's true , I think I've found one.
 
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