Soil nutrient question...

[the protege]

HEy all,
It's me again! Right now the hydro grow is going pretty well, and the Capt. has me using GH Flora nova with Pure Blend. MY question is what soil nutes do you all use? Would pure blend (the original, not the pro) be ok by itself. I am using organic potting mix, with perlite, and earthworm castings in it.

I may mix some blood and bone meal, if I decide to flower it. This may become a mom, it just depends. THis is a superfruit/blueberry, in two of them, and g13 in one of the others. So Hopefully the g13 and one of the superfruit blueberry's is female, and branches alot so it has the superfruit dominance.

Ok done rambling, so what do you all use? THanks in advance

the protege

 

[LeeroyJackson]

I have no idea about your question of choice of those particular nutes to use as i dont use any of them.

I will in the future though, when i can afford to buy more gear. Pure Blend sounds like the go.


At the moment I just use a local source of liquified kelp,blood and bone,fish emulsion, liquid potash,and a few flakes of epsom salts.

Im trialling out a soil-less medium of 50/50 peat and perlite, no soil nutrients or soil added, only slowly watered nute solutions through fast draining soil.

Mainly because im trying to keep gnat numbers down and i wanted to see if it were possible to keep it a liquified fed medium only, no soil nutrients for the gnats to play in.

So far its ok but ph is a little high,
im adding some peat moss in the next transplant to acidify it a little bit.

Good luck on your grow, you sound like youve got the right components of a nice growing soil.

Hope to see pics of your G-13.

 

[ncgreenthumb]

I grow in soil and I have had very good results useing AgeOld nutes.They are all organic as is my soil,I use Fox Farm Oceanforest soil & the AgeOld nutes and the only other thing I ever need to add is sometimes some epsom salt if I get a Magnesium problem.

 

[the protege]

Thanks for the replies, I would have gotten the ocean forrest potting soil, but it comes in to big of a bag for me. I dont' grow much, so I only needed enought to fill a couple pots or so. but thanks for the advice

the p

 

[Harry Gypsna]

ye, but if u buy buy the big bag, u got plenty 4 future pot filling, and its cheaper than buying little bags over and over

 

[strain_searcher]

soil and nutes

soil and nutes

I use an all organic local nursery soil that has evrything from bat guano to micro this micro that ,mushroom compost. It smells so rich and then I will add soome seedling soil to fluff up the mix and deter gnats. I also add perlite.And then for flower I add some tomato bone and bloodmeal fert mixed into the soil. I use growmore seaweed extract for veg which I dont think I need anyway because my soil keeps my plants very green and healthy. (do not over water or your screwed for a while. For flower I use pure blend bloom (regular version) This stuff smells so good rich and yummy. I am 100% organic not even a tiny time released anything. I have grown monster colas without the need for chemicals Yuck. As bog said if you time the transplant right then you will have good roots to make your plants huge.

This is a fucking story Im writing,sorry about that.

 

[AKgrower]

I got some ocean forest potting soil and it did not do well. Maybe it was old or something .I did half OF and half with a local mix and the local did much better. could the age effect the quality?

 

[cannadragon]

I've use PB original in soil with b'cuss addivives in soil for whole grow with no problems . worm casting and dolimite lime and green sand rounded out the mix.

 

[ncgreenthumb]

If I were you I'd look into getting the oceanforest soil.In my opinion it's about as good as it gets.You don't even need to add any nutes for the first 2-3 weeks.

 

[mybeans420]

i would only advise using pure blend by itself if your soil is well amended.
otherwise i would use it in conjunction with other nutes.
it is more of a supplement than a stand alone.
with npk's of
1 - 0.5 - 1 grow
0.5 - 0.5 - 1 bloom
it really doesnt have high enough concentrations of the major nutes to sustain good growth throughout a full grow.

now if you add to your soil worm castings, guano, etc
it should do really well.
though, you may have to supplement in mid to late flowering.

keep in mind that pb is not a stand alone formula, its a compost solution. the main function of which is to provide naturally occuring growth hormones such as cytokenins and auxins as well as vitamins, enzymes, amino acids, humates, trace minerals, and organic plant acids

hope this helps

peace
beans

 

[gift of gab]

keep in mind that pb is not a stand alone formula, its a compost solution. the main function of which is to provide naturally occuring growth hormones such as cytokenins and auxins as well as vitamins, enzymes, amino acids, humates, trace minerals, and organic plant acids

hope this helps

peace
beans

it does

thanks for teaching me something new today. Works out well because I just started using PB.

 

[strain_searcher]

stand alone soil is the key

stand alone soil is the key

If you can get a soil with everthing your plants need then pure blend bloom should perfect and guess what,you spend alot less money on all the extra nutes. But it is subjective. it takes some investigating and trying different things to your soil before the shoe fits. And please do not add shoes to the soil.

 

[the protege]

Lol, no shoes this time? that's what happened last time, freakin L.A. Gears got in the way of the taproot!

Seriously thanks for the replies. I am starting my soil in an organic fashion, it's a sphagnum peat mix with worm castings and perlite. I will be adding bat guano once I get ready to transplant along with some kelp meal. I have epsom salts, just in case for the magnesium. Does this mix sound like it would do alright stand alone with just a little pure blend here and there? I hope so, because I really don't plan on buying anymore stuff. Not to mention I have GH flora nova, cal-mag, and dark energy/supernova, in case I feel like going non-organic.

the protege

 

[I.M. Boggled]

I would leave the kelp meal out...

I would leave the kelp meal out...

and use the Pure Blend (already has liquid kelp in ingredients) in conjunction with the Bat Guano and that "Dark Energy" product to get things rockin'.
The Pure Blend Original might just become your best growing buddy because of all the great plant growing/ stimulating goodies in it and Pure Blend tends to give very positive and impressive results to most people...
I've never used "dark Energy" but am a devoted fan of Botanicares "Liquid Karma."
http://www.icmag.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5102&highlight=Liquid+Karma

I will be adding bat guano....once I get ready to transplant along with some kelp meal

The kelp meal can stall the vegetative growth process initially by locking up the nitrogen in the soil.
It has for me in the past when using generous amounts of Kelp Meal in container soil mixes.

"When seaweed, or indeed any undecomposed organic matter, is put into the soil, it is attacked by bacteria which break the material down into simpler units -- in a word, decompose it.

To do this effectively the bacteria need nitrogen, and this they take from the first available source, the soil.
This means that after seaweed has been added to the soil, there is a period during which the amount of soil nitrogen available to plants is reduced. During this period seed germination, and the feeding and growth of plants, can be inhibited to greater or lesser degree."

"the addition of seaweed (meal) leads to a temporary diminution of nitrogen available for crops, then a considerable augmentation of the nitrogen total....
This increase makes itself felt after the seaweed is completely broken down. Total nitrogen then becomes available to the plant, and there is a corresponding upsurge in plant growth."

[liquid seaweed extract is not subject to this latent period but lacks the vitamins of the fresh & dried seaweed products. IMB]

Located in part two of "Seaweed and Plant Growth" article

Other great ingredients in Pure Blend are Humic and Fulvic Acids...

Fulvic and Ulmic acids stimulate root development, while Humic acid aids in chelation (root absorption) of nutrients. The Humate also provides carbon, a high energy food source for soil microbes, which also helps release nutrients and break down organic materials.

http://www.icmag.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4578&highlight=humic+acid

 

[the protege]

Thank you I.M. I appreciate it. I won't get any of that then. I think I am going to make most of my medium the worm castings? Does that sound ok, from what I have heard, they are one of the best things out there. I will take your suggestions to heart. I don't know much about growing at all, at least not firsthand, so i am all ears. Thanks.

the p

 

[I.M. Boggled]

Flora Nova is good stuff...

Flora Nova is good stuff...

I'd stick with the Captains nutrient recommendation, you will get great results with those products, particulary if you already have them in your arsenal.

As far as container soil growing I would suggest that you use a BOG style soil mix to transplant into. imho.
The Bog method will give good results, no need to re-invent the wheel, the guy gets totally awesome results with his Keep It Simple Simon (K.I.S.S.) technique.
His nutrient feeding regimen produces top-notch wonder-bud to say the least, and is also highly recommended, It obviously certainly works well.

Be sure to be careful with the young seedlings as the B.O.G. mix is a bit rich in nutrients (hot) for seedlings, so is not recommended for first stage (sensitive seedling) vegetative growth.
Too much too fast has killed many a seedling.

Protege, your certainly an inquisitive one, I'll give you that, I think you'll do well. So many initial decisions can be a daunting experience. Searching these forums, if your not already doing that, should help out immensly with various questions as they occur to you.

Happy Growing