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So what's up with this 9th planet discovery?

Cannavore

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Yeah I know all about the controversies regarding Zecharia Sitchin, and that was a part of my skepticism along with the whole aliens who bred us to mine for gold thing.

But yet here we are with an undiscovered planet that's pretty much exactly what he predicted. Same size, same oblong elliptical orbit... kinda weird coincidence at least no?

I need to digest.

there are tons of planets and moons in our asteroid belt(s) too. lots of hypothetical planets over the years too.

some people (scholars and scientists) think there was another planet between mars and jupiter, where the asteroid belt now is. this "9th planet" could have been flung out from our early solar system from a cataclysm just like that.

we also think that uranus and neptune switched orbits early in the solar system. that neptune formed and started out closer to the sun than it is now.
 

Scrappy-doo

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That's what I always heard could have happened. A collision that created the asteroid belt which I figure could have flung it way out.

I pulled this from the article I added into post 1.

Where did Planet Nine come from and how did it end up in the outer solar system? Scientists have long believed that the early solar system began with four planetary cores that went on to grab all of the gas around them, forming the four gas planets -- Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. Over time, collisions and ejections shaped them and moved them out to their present locations. "But there is no reason that there could not have been five cores, rather than four," says Brown. Planet Nine could represent that fifth core, and if it got too close to Jupiter or Saturn, it could have been ejected into its distant, eccentric orbit.

Either way this is some pretty cool news.
 

stoned-trout

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whats up with wanting to re name the moon????...it has a name,,, its the moon and its made of cheese....yeehaw
 
I read scientific articles regularly and I always find it funny how "scientifically" minded people criticize people of faith, but someone can "prove" something hypothetical solely with math and it's not considered faith, it's REAL science even though nobody's actually experienced it in anyway and there's no real test to prove it's real, ha ha ha, it happens a lot more often in "science" than I'm sure most scientists would like to admit. Keep your eyes open for real facts and you'll see what I mean, we all live by faith.
 
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OGShaman

I always thought it was "Luna".

That's just latin for "moon", but it's not an official title or even a scientific term associated with our moon. Our moon is simply known as The Moon, with the capitalization being significant in order to differentiate it from any other moon, whereas all of the other moons in our solar system are named after greek gods and Shakespeare's characters. We're just boring I guess.
 

Cannavore

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or they used the same math they use to calculate the gravity of the earth interacting with other objects, saw a large gravitational disturbance where this '9th planet' now is, and came up with that there's likely an object 10x the mass of the earth out there.

that's not faith, that's coming to a conclusion using logic, scientific theory, and the known laws and physics of the universe.

faith would be saying you know for a fact that the object 50x further out from the sun than pluto is god coming to visit us in his space ship with his buddies buddha, mohammed and joseph smith.
 

Meraxes

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I read scientific articles regularly and I always find it funny how "scientifically" minded people criticize people of faith, but someone can "prove" something hypothetical solely with math and it's not considered faith, it's REAL science even though nobody's actually experienced it in anyway and there's no real test to prove it's real, ha ha ha, it happens a lot more often in "science" than I'm sure most scientists would like to admit. Keep your eyes open for real facts and you'll see what I mean, we all live by faith.


This makes no sense whatsoever. Faith is the meaningful SUSPENSION of critical thinking. This means believing something with NO data, NO evidence, and NO logic. These scientist likely collected pages, and pages of actual hard data to come to this conclusion, and have been working on it for a while, to make sure it's accurate, before they release any press statements. And when they are wrong, they are the first to admit it, whereas religious zealots NEVER admit they are wrong about anything. :biggrin:
 
Well you are entitled to your opinions, but I don't think you know how many things are ASSUMED to be true astronomy and quantum physics based solely off of math and theory instead of observable and repeatedly testable science. Something else interesting is you guys have already proved you live by faith by believing what others say without being able to prove it yourselves or even understanding how they came to their conclusions. Like I said, we all live by faith.... stay faithful :)
 

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