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~Papillon~

is a reliable seed seller?
this thread does not take off, why?
even on other platforms there is little or almost zero movement.
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mack 10

Resin Herder
Veteran
got a nice Abonable snowman, looks heavy on the pure kush side,
with great structure from the uzbeki and snocap delta.
glad i kept thisone going.
 

v7ej207

Member
Just finished up flowering three Blueberry Blast plants. Interesting plants that were a good escape from the hyped new-new that dominates most grows these days. Unfortunately, they all threw male flowers in the last couple of weeks of flowering. If these were run outside I doubt the late male flowers would have been an issue. I wish I could legally do a run of 30+ seed plants of this because I know there is gold in these if you can run enough seeds.

That being said, word on the street is that provenance on the strains released in last couple of years should probably not be trusted or relied upon.

#1-Seems to be the most potent of three based upon a quick, 3-day dry on couple of lower buds. Narrowest leaves of three with a sweet blueberry nose. It will be fun to see how it shapes up with normal dry and 2-3 week cure.
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#2-Least potent of three with a slow, creeping high.

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#3-Stocky, deep green plant with huge fan leaves. Strong hybrid type high with a skunky/rubbery smell.

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Columbo1

That being said, word on the street is that provenance on the strains released in last couple of years should probably not be trusted or relied upon.

Any chance you can elaborate on the above comment?

I purchased some Vietnamese Laughing Grass (Purple Dalat x Congo) from the 2nd drop a few years back over at the stax. Are those likely to be affected?

While provenance isn't such a big issue for me just so long as they match the strain description. I'd still like to know either way.

Thanks,

Col.
 
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beanz

no issues here with blueberry blast outdoors . grown in mild winter with low temps
 

v7ej207

Member
Any chance you can elaborate on the above comment?

I purchased some Vietnamese Laughing Grass (Purple Dalat x Congo) from the 2nd drop a few years back over at the stax. Are those likely to be affected?

While provenance isn't such a big issue for me just so long as they match the strain description. I'd still like to know either way.

Thanks,

Col.

That comment was based on second hand info so take it with a grain of salt but I thought it should be mentioned because people care about things like that here. I sort wish I hadn't added that comment now. The underlying sentiment is that everything used might not be exactly what it is claimed to be. I'd like to leave it at that so as to not further perpetuate a rumor.
 
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beanz

That comment was based on second hand info so take it with a grain of salt but I thought it should be mentioned because people care about things like that here. I sort wish I hadn't added that comment now. The underlying sentiment is that everything used might not be exactly what it is claimed to be. I'd like to leave it at that so as to not further perpetuate a rumor.

sometimes a mention of caution is good in alot respects ...think you were pretty clear its just what you had heard .

it was said pineapple bomb was a hermi fest in this thread and I had no problems at all with them . but it was nice to have an extra watchful eye on them regardless .

same thing atm , theres lots talk about people finding male flowers in seed junkie gear ,

it does,nt reflect great on the breeder though , especially if its un founded or grown poorly . ( your pics look great by the way )

hard call imo , its nice to give other growers feedback ...and a heads up in alot ways and not in others

plants can defiantly herm in poor conditions and stress , I see it all the time in winter grows ...particular if the temps fluctuate quickly between day and night . we have rather warm days and can get a cold crash and it certainly stresses some plants out . thats not breeder error in selection . I can also see this could happen in alot countries when lights go out and night kicks in ....if your rooms not right .
 

Kankakee

Member
does seed junkie test lines ?

or does he do traditional breeding with male and female ? or is it fem / s1lines producing herm's ? whenever one see's herm's often the grower skills are questioned. ive seen lots and lots of herm threads closed and wiped from history like alien tech, franchise so getting a true handle or history is tough .... or herm's passing from one generation onto the next.

but growing a plant indoors away from the sun can raise many questions all in itself ....
 

v7ej207

Member
sometimes a mention of caution is good in alot respects ...think you were pretty clear its just what you had heard .

it was said pineapple bomb was a hermi fest in this thread and I had no problems at all with them . but it was nice to have an extra watchful eye on them regardless .

same thing atm , theres lots talk about people finding male flowers in seed junkie gear ,

it does,nt reflect great on the breeder though , especially if its un founded or grown poorly . ( your pics look great by the way )

hard call imo , its nice to give other growers feedback ...and a heads up in alot ways and not in others

plants can defiantly herm in poor conditions and stress , I see it all the time in winter grows ...particular if the temps fluctuate quickly between day and night . we have rather warm days and can get a cold crash and it certainly stresses some plants out . thats not breeder error in selection . I can also see this could happen in alot countries when lights go out and night kicks in ....if your rooms not right .

Yep, I wouldn't even have mentioned the male flowers if things were not in order in my grow. I understand the impact that such statements can have on reputation of the breeder and the perpetuation of bad information. My temps during the fall, winter, and spring are pinned between 74 and 76 degrees and I have a stupid amount of air mixing and exchange to insure there are no cold spots. I run old school air cooled lights that are controlled by thermostats so temps can be regulated using the lights. It is pretty amazing that my veg area's 400 watt mh and two 24" 8 bulb t5 fixtures can keep an 8x12 area right at 75 degrees with no other heat source even when its -20 outside. I bet I spend at least $50/month just to move air around. :)
 

v7ej207

Member
What was your feeding program?
I notice some like to feed past week 4/5 and I notice those same growers complain of hermies.
The Johnny Blaze line, BBB's father, is sensitive to synth nutes.

Ive been breeding woth the BBB lime for ~4 years now and I havent had any problems.


I don't use anything bottled outside of veg and even then I only use Neptune's Harvest fish and seaweed.

I went into this run with a light hand as far as my soil. Two of the three plants were in no till pots with nothing added except to top dress heavily with worm castings, rock dust, and oyster shell. The third plant was in a ten gallon pot that had a plant I was unhappy with in it for 3-4 weeks before I culled it. It then sat outside from August through November in full exposure before I brought it in to use.

Do you find that this line does better where it is allowed to completely suck the soil dry of nutrients?

I'm going to run at least one of them again to see if I can't tame the the beast. The #1 plant is exceptionally strong, it can easily cut through the bubble hash rosin I've been smoking almost exclusively for the last month and a half.

These seeds came out of the last drop at the stax and were likely re-lists.
 
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Columbo1

That comment was based on second hand info so take it with a grain of salt but I thought it should be mentioned because people care about things like that here. I sort wish I hadn't added that comment now. The underlying sentiment is that everything used might not be exactly what it is claimed to be. I'd like to leave it at that so as to not further perpetuate a rumor.

Well thanks for the heads up in any case. I don't have any experience with either of the parentals so probably won't be able to tell anyway unless it deviates from the expected long-flowering NLD sativa phenotype.
 

Thcvhunter

Well-known member
Veteran
I don't use anything bottled outside of veg and even then I only use Neptune's Harvest fish and seaweed.

I went into this run with a light hand as far as my soil. Two of the three plants were in no till pots with nothing added except to top dress heavily with worm castings, rock dust, and oyster shell. The third plant was in a ten gallon pot that had a plant I was unhappy with in it for 3-4 weeks before I culled it. It then sat outside from August through November in full exposure before I brought it in to use.

Do you find that this line does better where it is allowed to completely suck the soil dry of nutrients?

I'm going to run at least one of them again to see if I can't tame the the beast. The #1 plant is exceptionally strong, it can easily cut through the bubble hash rosin I've been smoking almost exclusively for the last month and a half.

These seeds came out of the last drop at the stax and were likely re-lists.

Yes. She likes to have no food left in the soil for the last few weeks. Both BlueBerry and Haze are sensitive heirlooms tgat dont like to be fed.
When they fade at the beginning of week five, both the plants and I are super happy.
Wven for the 14-16 week phenos.

Ive had sensitive males in some outcrosses(light leak stress test), but females were solid in that stress run.

Im not sure what restocking seeds would do to their stability.
Whats the logic there?
What is provenance?
 

v7ej207

Member
Yes. She likes to have no food left in the soil for the last few weeks. Both BlueBerry and Haze are sensitive heirlooms tgat dont like to be fed.
When they fade at the beginning of week five, both the plants and I are super happy.
Wven for the 14-16 week phenos.

Ive had sensitive males in some outcrosses(light leak stress test), but females were solid in that stress run.

Im not sure what restocking seeds would do to their stability.
Whats the logic there?
What is provenance?

That might have been the issue then because they faded pretty hard but they could have been even more drained with an even lighter soil mix. I can make that happen the next time I run the plant(s).

I mentioned relists and the drop they likely came from just to note they may have been from a newer batch. Provenance is who/where the parents of a cross came from and therefore its true genetics or the likelihood that it is what it is claimed to be. That is not really an issue here.
 

mexicani-ar

Well-known member
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What was your feeding program?
I notice some like to feed past week 4/5 and I notice those same growers complain of hermies.
The Johnny Blaze line, BBB's father, is sensitive to synth nutes.

Ive been breeding woth the BBB lime for ~4 years now and I havent had any problems.

Hey Thcv , how's it going , did you keep any BBB males?
 

Thcvhunter

Well-known member
Veteran
Nope.
I have few clones of BBB f2 females and BBB croses being held for me in WA.
But my buddy was not comfortable keeping any males.

The best males in BBB are the ones that seem like a female but dont flower for a looongtime.
You almost have to flower the males seperately before flowerin the females to get the timing right.
Those males have created the best progeny.
 

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