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Smart Pots
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DEDHEDFRED
Hey Bounty......Censorship is alive and well here my buddy....Know what I mean ?.........
JWSR.......I use the 3`s and 5 gal. smartpots in coco......Like Bounty said a lot of folks keep coco wet constantly as a hydro type medium and I see no reason for the SP`s in that type mode even though I use em that way cuz I bought bunches of em and they`re re-useable so I`m re-usin em ....
I first bought smartpots for my mom plants and with em stayin in constant veg and only watered every 3-5 days the rootmass exploded after 2 weeks like you`re experiencing JWSR and they stay 3' tall and wide while supplying bunches of cuts on a regular basis.....I`m not sure the ruling`s come in yet on whether or not to keep coco wet or let it dry out although I do think it`s up to the individual`s system they`re running.......
More plants packed into tight SOG type grows needta stay wet while less larger plants are able to go without juice as often but watch out for residual salts buildup as they dry so regular short flushes will keep you in good shape....Ya`ll take care.....DHF.......
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JWSR.......I use the 3`s and 5 gal. smartpots in coco......Like Bounty said a lot of folks keep coco wet constantly as a hydro type medium and I see no reason for the SP`s in that type mode even though I use em that way cuz I bought bunches of em and they`re re-useable so I`m re-usin em ....
I first bought smartpots for my mom plants and with em stayin in constant veg and only watered every 3-5 days the rootmass exploded after 2 weeks like you`re experiencing JWSR and they stay 3' tall and wide while supplying bunches of cuts on a regular basis.....I`m not sure the ruling`s come in yet on whether or not to keep coco wet or let it dry out although I do think it`s up to the individual`s system they`re running.......
More plants packed into tight SOG type grows needta stay wet while less larger plants are able to go without juice as often but watch out for residual salts buildup as they dry so regular short flushes will keep you in good shape....Ya`ll take care.....DHF.......
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Don't let the doubters stop you from trying these for yourself!
These are working great for organic soil grows, helps build the rootmass through air pruning & gives the microherd the extra oxygen they need to really thrive.
A pruned root acts exactly the same way a pruned branch does above ground, see any possible benefits?
Pot size is another huge factor, the bigger the better!
Did the controls in the 80's & the results were amazing...
These are working great for organic soil grows, helps build the rootmass through air pruning & gives the microherd the extra oxygen they need to really thrive.
A pruned root acts exactly the same way a pruned branch does above ground, see any possible benefits?
Pot size is another huge factor, the bigger the better!
Did the controls in the 80's & the results were amazing...
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Guest
Apparently I have one of these air pots in my back yard...... It's my pre-compost bin.
About 3 feet high and 3 feet expandable to 6 feet around. Same stuff. It was here when I moved in so I have no idea where it came from.
About 3 feet high and 3 feet expandable to 6 feet around. Same stuff. It was here when I moved in so I have no idea where it came from.
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Guest
A similar technique discussed in Jorge Cervante's Marijuana Horticulture book is painting the insides of your pots with Griffin's Spin-Out, which causes the tips of roots to die-back when they reach the walls of the pot which in turn induces profuse secondary root branching.
I have no idea where to actually purchase this stuff, but I found a well done experiment and it looks like it was a success (I'd love to post the link, but since I am new to the forum I cannot post hyperlinks. Do a search on Google for "Griffin's spin out" and it's the second link that shows up). Anyone else tried this?
I have no idea where to actually purchase this stuff, but I found a well done experiment and it looks like it was a success (I'd love to post the link, but since I am new to the forum I cannot post hyperlinks. Do a search on Google for "Griffin's spin out" and it's the second link that shows up). Anyone else tried this?
kaljukajakas
Active member
You can make your own "spin out" paint rather easily. Take some copper sulphate (the blue crystals at gardening stores), dissolve a bunch in water and then add a bunch of baking soda and mix. You'll get a light green precipitate that's an insoluble copper compound. Filter it (wash the precipitate in the filter with plenty of water to get rid of any soluble salts) and dry in an oven and grind it into an inpalpable dust.
The next step is to get some sticky latex or other "breathable" exterior paint and mix in some of the powder you just made. 10-20% of powder would probably be the ballpark, you don't want too much or the paint will be too thick to apply. Then take a brush and apply it to the inside of your pots. You might want to roughen the interior of the pots with 100-grit sandpaper beforehand to improve adhesion. Even so, If you have PP or HDPE pots the paint won't stick too well and will flake off eventually if you kick the pots around too much.
The next step is to get some sticky latex or other "breathable" exterior paint and mix in some of the powder you just made. 10-20% of powder would probably be the ballpark, you don't want too much or the paint will be too thick to apply. Then take a brush and apply it to the inside of your pots. You might want to roughen the interior of the pots with 100-grit sandpaper beforehand to improve adhesion. Even so, If you have PP or HDPE pots the paint won't stick too well and will flake off eventually if you kick the pots around too much.
prelude91sir
Member
dont know if this as has been stated. it seems like with these air pots. depending on what size you start out with there would be no need to transplant when flowering. from what i get you get to keep the same plant in the same pot a lot longer
I bought 5 - 1 gal smart pots and 5 - 1 gal regular pots. All Blue Dream, all the same age and randomly selected (both parties) from a patch of 30... so no favoritism for either.
In a couple weeks I will see whether I like them or not.
In a couple weeks I will see whether I like them or not.
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Please keep us posted..... I'm really interested!
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DEDHEDFRED
Hey Mr. C.......The smartpots were designed for trees in dirt grows so you should see a difference in the end result over your 1 gal. plastic pots.......
I`m not sure you`ll be able to base an opinion on whether or not you like em in a couple weeks but hopefully you`ll have enough veg growth to see a difference if the rootmasses get big enough to penetrate the fabric versus the roots hitting the plastic sides and spinning........
Probably a month before you`ll see decided differences in growth and vigor but I use coco and the SP`s almost bust at the seams from rootmass if I let em almost dry before feeding again for the first few weeks with my mom plants.........
Take care and good luck Bro..........Peace.........DHF........ .......
I`m not sure you`ll be able to base an opinion on whether or not you like em in a couple weeks but hopefully you`ll have enough veg growth to see a difference if the rootmasses get big enough to penetrate the fabric versus the roots hitting the plastic sides and spinning........
Probably a month before you`ll see decided differences in growth and vigor but I use coco and the SP`s almost bust at the seams from rootmass if I let em almost dry before feeding again for the first few weeks with my mom plants.........
Take care and good luck Bro..........Peace.........DHF........
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Experiment is bouched... the a-hole who sold me the clones told me they were all Blue Dreams... its obvious that some of them are Purple Eurkle and I called him on it... but he says "You know clones, they look different sometimes" .......... yaaaaaaaaaaa riiiiiiite.
FYI, the Blue Dreams are twice as tall, have skinny long leaves and the purples have short fat leaves with tight internodes....
Ethics within the weed game are trying my nerves these days. /Rant
I have 2-3 Blue dreams in smart pots (I think 2) and 2-3 in regular pots... its not as objective as I had desired... I'll posts results in a couple weeks.
FYI, the Blue Dreams are twice as tall, have skinny long leaves and the purples have short fat leaves with tight internodes....
Ethics within the weed game are trying my nerves these days. /Rant
I have 2-3 Blue dreams in smart pots (I think 2) and 2-3 in regular pots... its not as objective as I had desired... I'll posts results in a couple weeks.
So its been a week, the couple Blue moons that are in smart pots are actually smaller/behind the ones in regular pots (by regular I mean net-bottom). The smart pots are "air pruning" the roots, but so far I've seen no advantage in growth/vigor because of it.
I'm still not ready to transplant yet, so its not over yet. Also only 2 out of the 5 are blue moons, so its a little skewed.
I'm still not ready to transplant yet, so its not over yet. Also only 2 out of the 5 are blue moons, so its a little skewed.
Something I have noticed, is the ones in smart pots tend to be busher. They're shooting a lot more side shoots and staying squat, while traditional pots are more of a x-mas tree.... good for moms, also you don't have to root trim them because they air trim themselves.
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In theory, that's exactly what you should be seeing.
A pruned root acts exactly like a pruned branch & bushes out the same way.
The above ground plant also mimics its root system to a certain extent, sometimes to the point of them taking on a square profile from a square pot. (looking down from above)
My single 10gal is kickin ass @ 50days & I have 6 in 3gal SP's getting ready for their final 7, 10 gals & testing. No control yet to compare with, but they're looking really happy & super bushy.
Another thing I like about the SPs, is you can really push'em with a lot more water/nutes without overwatering problems & more water/nute uptake = bigger fruit!
In theory, that's exactly what you should be seeing.A pruned root acts exactly like a pruned branch & bushes out the same way.
The above ground plant also mimics its root system to a certain extent, sometimes to the point of them taking on a square profile from a square pot. (looking down from above)
My single 10gal is kickin ass @ 50days & I have 6 in 3gal SP's getting ready for their final 7, 10 gals & testing. No control yet to compare with, but they're looking really happy & super bushy.
Another thing I like about the SPs, is you can really push'em with a lot more water/nutes without overwatering problems & more water/nute uptake = bigger fruit!
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DEDHEDFRED
I first bought 5 gal. smart pots to replace 5 gal. buckets for my mom plants.........
DTW in 50/50 coir and chunks fed couple times a week and the damn things exploded.........
There`s no comparison in the growth rate of the roots and the plant growth in constant veg versus my `ol tried and true plastic buckets may they rest in peace.......
The #5`s are too big for my other rooms but they`re being used till they rot and then smaller ones will be bought.......
The mom`s stay 2 1/2-3 ' tall and wide with 100`s of cuts taken every couple weeks..........
Thanks for doing a side by side Mr.C.......Plastic containers with taller plants and sp`s with bushier plants........Keep us updated Bro...........
.......Peace..........DHF.......... .........
DTW in 50/50 coir and chunks fed couple times a week and the damn things exploded.........
There`s no comparison in the growth rate of the roots and the plant growth in constant veg versus my `ol tried and true plastic buckets may they rest in peace.......
The #5`s are too big for my other rooms but they`re being used till they rot and then smaller ones will be bought.......
The mom`s stay 2 1/2-3 ' tall and wide with 100`s of cuts taken every couple weeks..........
Thanks for doing a side by side Mr.C.......Plastic containers with taller plants and sp`s with bushier plants........Keep us updated Bro...........
.......Peace..........DHF..........
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