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Silver's second straight-bulb several strain sweetened soil sweetness. Seriously.

silver hawaiian

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Actually you're right - I just moved 'em 'round a few days back..

I'd started the first batch with the 600, which's now been moved up to the second level for the new batch, and the 400 has been lowered for the finish for first batch, to provide lumeny blast to the new batch.. ?
 

lil~greensprout

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I'd go with the 600 for the first phase, maximum horse power/max nutes...
then the 400 as I weened them down to replicate fall/harvest conditions.
But that's just me. :2cents:

Look'n frick'n sweet in here Mister !
 

silver hawaiian

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:yeahthats

~sprout, remember when I blew a ballast during a storm last year, and had to finish the run at 400w instead of 800w?

You'd suggested back then the fall "waning light-power" analogy, ....

That's why I started with the 600w, to finish with lesser.. :D

:respect:
 

lil~greensprout

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Yes I do remember that, I've been lucky as far as ballasts go...
Though mine are all hook`d up 240~volt and I believe that helps !
:smoker:
 

silver hawaiian

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Reduce, reuse

Reduce, reuse

And do this:

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Full of dirt from runs past:

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The add-backs: (Not pictured: Crab shell meal, neem seed meal)

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The Super Stone stuff is new this time 'round - I got a sample of it a while back and threw it in the 5 gal Nightmare Diesel. And it doesn't suck.

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Secret weapon (this sh*t is the bomb):

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silver hawaiian

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..when I said the soil is from runs past, that's what I meant. Runs past, veggers that never made it, dudes, etc.. Here's a wad:

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..and there were also some chunks (clumps) of soil that were still cube-shaped from the square pot they were in, .. So all of that gets beat up with a shovel and a rake for a bit.

And then this:

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And then this:

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..and then left out like that for a couple weeks, watered with set-out water (and an occasional molasses/goodness deal)..

Then thrown back in to the can itself for storage, general marrying of critter and mushy awesomeness..

This is my first time with a recycled soil, and I've basically just winged the add-back deal. So I'll probably slowly work the mix into the garden, one plant at a time, .. So's if it needs further dialing, I can do it on the fly, without having committed entire runs to it.

Phew.
 

Avinash.miles

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ya bioag makes some nice humic, micro and myco type amendments.
glad u found that.
nice recycling pictorial
 

smilley

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That's one beautiful dirt pile there silver, as far as dirt piles go....ha, ha :tumbleweed: But seriously, the nice thing about amending and recycling your soil, is that you know exactly what's in it. You're gonna reap many benefits for your efforts dude. Organics are the way of the present and future. :woohoo:
 

silver hawaiian

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That's one beautiful dirt pile there silver, as far as dirt piles go....ha, ha :tumbleweed: But seriously, the nice thing about amending and recycling your soil, is that you know exactly what's in it. You're gonna reap many benefits for your efforts dude. Organics are the way of the present and future. :woohoo:

:tiphat:

It's funny -- I'd rather do my measuring and mixing all at once, in the soil itself.. And when I say "measuring," I'm talking about "a sprinkle of this" and "a pile of that." No precision here, just relative caution.. ml's and pHing are for the birds, says this hawaiian.

I like it alot man.Easy on the blood meal and keep work that soil.

Thanks hayday! Funny you mention that on the bone - my last mix didn't have enough N in it, so I did fortify it with some blood.. Since it's already been fortified, I've added just a smidgen.. (I believe the proper metric unit would be a "dusting.")

Today marks day 49 for the first batch, 18 for the second.

..I expect to take the first batch (at least the Nightmare Diesel, and likely the Golden Goat - not sure about the ChemD) to about 75-82 days.. Which means I've got about 30 days to round up some recruits for the next wave.

Admittedly, I'm behind. Shocker, yes. :tumbleweed: I've got some ND cuts with their tootsies dangling in the sweet sweet mist, hoping they'll grow some legs.

60 days my foot......
 

high life 45

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This reminds me of years ago when I grew my first aeroflo 30 without phin and using chem and organic nutes, It was a miracle I harvested at all. and I did really well suprisingly, I used smidges and splashes and dashes of all kinds of products. lol

I was more of a nute sludge than a solution, constanly unclogging the sprayers.
 

silver hawaiian

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This reminds me of years ago when I grew my first aeroflo 30 without phin and using chem and organic nutes, It was a miracle I harvested at all. and I did really well suprisingly, I used smidges and splashes and dashes of all kinds of products. lol

I was more of a nute sludge than a solution, constanly unclogging the sprayers.

hl, glad to see you here! :tiphat:

That's exactly how I feel running a hydro system. .. And I've realized, I'm not sure there's less mixing/measuring with an organic method -- maybe I'm just more accustomed to/wired for it.. But I do take some solace in the forgiving nature of some dirt. 5 lbs per gallon of blood would be an issue, yes. But 1 cup +/- a half cup, let's say? Meh. Not a huge issue. That's a range of 50-150%, in my dumb math. :tumbleweed:

Anyway. Just works for me.. :shucks: But what's funny is the hydro guys are reading this, thinking "WTF? So I measure x- of this, y- of that, z- of that, pH to a-, .. What's the difference?"

And I don't know. I don't know. I just know I like strawberry, some like chocolate. :artist:
 
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high life 45

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I enjoy chocolate covered strawberries.
If had to make a choice between the two it would definitely be strawberries. I have about 60 strawberry plants.

I will say that running Jacks is super easy, but I also am running Biobizz at another spot and it works amazing. I have made soil in the past and that worked great also.

Composting your own soil is really fun. I mixed up some for outdoor and didn't end up using all of it. The few yards that sat around for a year and ended up having so much mycellia in it it broke apart in stringy milk jug sized chunks!
 

silver hawaiian

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Mmm, ... I do see myself, if for no other reason than my attraction to gadgetry and new crap, one day perhaps giving a stab at coco dtw, .. I really dig the concept. But, I'm sort of naturally averse to a non-organic approach. Why? I dunno. Because I'm a snob? Could be, but I doubt it. You oughtta see the shit I put into my body on the regular day-to-day. (Currently, a 16oz Bud Light, okay? Getit?)

..I won't get started on my whole organic deal, in part because I'm lazy, and in more part because I'm sure it's not well-educated..

BUT. It's what's been tickling my brain cells all these days, .. And if it ain't broke.. :dunno:

Anyway. Today is day 50 for the first round (GG, ND, ChemD), day 19 for t'others (ND x2, StrawDD, Blue Satellite 2.2).

Not much to report, and that doesn't upset me. Sometimes no news is good news. No freakouts, no disasters, no critters, no fungi, ..

Some observations thus far:

Golden Goat stinks like lemons I want to eat. Like a candle that smells so good you want to take a bite, .. She began with the lemon zest stink waaay back around week 2 - no shit.

Nightmare Diesel is starting to swell - I really hope she gets as fat as last time 'round, though she's got so many limbs this time, I'm not too sure what to expect.

ChemD so far is unimpressive. If only by the sheer hype, I figure I've got to be doing something wrong.. The least resinous of the bunch (of the 1st batch), by far, .. Buds smaller and generally less sexy than the rest.. Oh well. It won't go to waste :D

Nightmare Diesels on the 2nd batch are performing almost 'zacklee how I'd like plants to in this system. It's tough to get a good photo of 'em, by virtue of the shape/setup of the room, .. But they're nicely filling out a solid wall-shaped canopy. I'd like 'em to get more stretch, but that may require some jimmying of the height of the upper bulb.

StrawDD is shaping up nicely - Should be a decent yield, but so far, the Nightmare Diesel is definitely leading the pack. The ND is the new standard, 'round these parts, for yield. And the smoke isn't for Sallys either. :joint:

Blue Satellite 2.2 is meh. Not very branchy, had to train the sh*t out of her to make her work (despite being topped 2x), .. I didn't keep a cut, which I thought I might regret, .. Buuutttt, nope. So far, no indication of any smashed blueberries/blueberry jam stink. That, more'n anything, is what I'm looking for in a Blue cross for my garden. Yield-schmield, if I had a gnarly Blue representation, I'd be a happier hawaiian.

Anyway, no real news to report - thankfully, eh?

Edit: Added the stuff in this color.
 

Avinash.miles

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good stuff silver bet things are looin nice @ day 50.

love that golden goat, sounds like u got the right one....
chemd on the other, should b hella resiny and great sour/kushy mix flav, and one of the killers in the bunch, so nothing there.
 

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Yeah dude you're not growing the chem d right... she's a finicky bitch though. Chem D grown right will outperform the goat, I promise you that. You like that ND cause you've grown her before and you know what to do, and diesels just stretch like crazy....

where are all the :kewlpics:?
 

silver hawaiian

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Yeah dude you're not growing the chem d right...

:yeahthats :laughing:

she's a finicky bitch though. Chem D grown right will outperform the goat, I promise you that. You like that ND cause you've grown her before and you know what to do, and diesels just stretch like crazy....

Hrmm. What about her strikes you as remarkable in terms of attention? Like, erm, what special care ought I be taking/on the watch for? I really ought to go back and see how big she was when I put her in to flower. I'm hoping reaaaalllly small, because if she was even close to the same size as the ND and GG, then she is a hilariously awesome example of an underperformed/underdone/poorly-grown plant. :tiphat:

where are all the :kewlpics?

Soon enough, .. Been enjoying the relative autopilot lately (hence the "No excitement to update"). ;)

Now, if only these f*cking clones would root.. I think I'll swing by HD for some chlorine and try that method. At least with the damned dome/tray/heat, I have SOME success, .. With the bucket, it's all'r none. :wallbash:
 
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