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sick plants with photos - doctor house required
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I cant see any pictures in your gallery yet.
Please upload some and one of us can post them to this thread for you.
You might try renaming them, but be sure they're '.jpg' files.
On the nutes, if these are young sprouts, you're feeding too soon and too strong.
The first hit was way too strong and way too high pH, and the second hit at 800 was still a bit harsh. For seedlings in coco, I'd shoot for @ 200ppm and gradually step it up as the plants grow more foliage.
Seedlings don't really need anything to stimulate the roots either, it comes naturally.
So I wouldnt bother using the root stimulator on young sprouts.
I have no idea exactly what is the "200 W Mg envirolite lamp" you're using ?
Not knowing, it kind of sounds like one of those cheap tinted incandescent so called 'grow light' bulbs?
IF so, it's pretty much useless for growing decent mj.
You want at least some compact fluorescent bulbs, or better yet... HID lighting, such as metal halide (good light spectrum 'colour' for veg growth) and/or high pressure sodium (best light spectrum for flowering)
"cheeerio" mate
Please upload some and one of us can post them to this thread for you.
You might try renaming them, but be sure they're '.jpg' files.
On the nutes, if these are young sprouts, you're feeding too soon and too strong.
The first hit was way too strong and way too high pH, and the second hit at 800 was still a bit harsh. For seedlings in coco, I'd shoot for @ 200ppm and gradually step it up as the plants grow more foliage.
Seedlings don't really need anything to stimulate the roots either, it comes naturally.
So I wouldnt bother using the root stimulator on young sprouts.
I have no idea exactly what is the "200 W Mg envirolite lamp" you're using ?
Not knowing, it kind of sounds like one of those cheap tinted incandescent so called 'grow light' bulbs?
IF so, it's pretty much useless for growing decent mj.
You want at least some compact fluorescent bulbs, or better yet... HID lighting, such as metal halide (good light spectrum 'colour' for veg growth) and/or high pressure sodium (best light spectrum for flowering)
"cheeerio" mate
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Ya, 10k pretty much said it all, as for the pictures; I have a grass city account; for the most part the plant is green just the first sets of leaves have twisting in the back of them......There is no nutrient burn on them.... yet..... but it is definatly showing issues from ph swing and the amount of nutrients you used..... It won't let me upload any pictures either...... says same thing "unable to read file format"
Good thing you backed down on those nutes; now you just need to make sure your ph is stable;how often are you using your vinegar? How much each time? You do not want to use large amounts of it a lot; that is what ph down is for....; Get ph down, keep your ph stable; do not let it go past 6.3, but you want to keep it around 5.5 to 6.0......
1300 was way to much; good thing you stopped while you did. I would go into a range of 400 for now.......
The twisting looks to be caused by ph swing..... get it under control...
Good thing you backed down on those nutes; now you just need to make sure your ph is stable;how often are you using your vinegar? How much each time? You do not want to use large amounts of it a lot; that is what ph down is for....; Get ph down, keep your ph stable; do not let it go past 6.3, but you want to keep it around 5.5 to 6.0......
1300 was way to much; good thing you stopped while you did. I would go into a range of 400 for now.......
The twisting looks to be caused by ph swing..... get it under control...
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10k said:
i found out it's a bug of the forum and will be fixed asap
Look at the link in the second post
Ok, i have to slow down the nutrients. Fine.
How much ppm now? consider my tap water is 300 ppm
http://www.envirolites.co.uk/reflectors.html
i'll switch to MH when i'll have enough money
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pfeeewww 300ppm 
That's some funky tap water.
I've always hated using tap water which is loaded down with who knows what kinds of minerals chlorines and possible sodium bicarbonates. Switching to distilled, r.o. or at least filtered tap would work out much better for you imho.
But anyway, you'd add the taps starting ppm to the target you're shooting for.
In other words, your 300 tap, mixed with nutes to end up with 500 would be giving the plants 200ppm of the nutes...but who knows what else already in that fugly tap water.
Yes, please discontinue using that vinegar.
Grow store pH down is phosphoric acid, and will be used by the plants as food.
ps... I still cant see the pictures. That other site requires a logged in member to view pictures, so please upload them here to icmag.
That's some funky tap water.I've always hated using tap water which is loaded down with who knows what kinds of minerals chlorines and possible sodium bicarbonates. Switching to distilled, r.o. or at least filtered tap would work out much better for you imho.
But anyway, you'd add the taps starting ppm to the target you're shooting for.
In other words, your 300 tap, mixed with nutes to end up with 500 would be giving the plants 200ppm of the nutes...but who knows what else already in that fugly tap water.
Yes, please discontinue using that vinegar.
Grow store pH down is phosphoric acid, and will be used by the plants as food.
ps... I still cant see the pictures. That other site requires a logged in member to view pictures, so please upload them here to icmag.
Yes, I would use ph down; vinegar is fine to use; but you have to feed a lot more often than soil.. so I would be using ph down.
Vinegar is fine for adjusting for soil......
consider my tap water is 300 ppm
Dude that is way off the chart; I mean that is like pure calcium and magnesium LOL
* Soft Water - less than 17 ppm
* Slightly hard - 17 to 60 ppm
* Moderately hard - 60 to 120 ppm
* Hard - 120 to 170 ppm
* Very Hard - 170 ppm and higher
I would think about using some other water source, getting a filtration system put on or buying RO water, but if you use RO water you must get a supplement like cal-mag. Distilled, RO water has nearly no levels of calcium and magnesium in there, which is why you need to supplement.
Hard water causes some major issues with the way plants absorb nutrients, so if that is true with your ppm's I would DEFIANTLY use a different water source. Did you use your TDS meter to get the ppms? You use well water by any chance?
Which one you use?
Vinegar is fine for adjusting for soil......
consider my tap water is 300 ppm
Dude that is way off the chart; I mean that is like pure calcium and magnesium LOL
* Soft Water - less than 17 ppm
* Slightly hard - 17 to 60 ppm
* Moderately hard - 60 to 120 ppm
* Hard - 120 to 170 ppm
* Very Hard - 170 ppm and higher
I would think about using some other water source, getting a filtration system put on or buying RO water, but if you use RO water you must get a supplement like cal-mag. Distilled, RO water has nearly no levels of calcium and magnesium in there, which is why you need to supplement.
Hard water causes some major issues with the way plants absorb nutrients, so if that is true with your ppm's I would DEFIANTLY use a different water source. Did you use your TDS meter to get the ppms? You use well water by any chance?
Which one you use?
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My bad, normally I do not post after you unless I am going to say something different; I posted 3 min after you..... sorry about that; did not realize you posted before me until I just now checked...... I deleted my post.... I understand what would annoy me too
Oh ya, I heard about them many times on there; hope ya have fun
I deleted my post.... I understand what would annoy me too Oh ya, I heard about them many times on there; hope ya have fun
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gramsci.antonio said:my water is considered to be very good, just very rich in Limestone.
i don't have acess to a better source
just a strange fact dudes: This morning i tested the water and the water was ph 6.5@1200 ppm
what's up?
your ec meter is broke, or your water company is trying to kill you, or you smoked too many spliffs? I had problems from not cleaning the electrodes of my truncheon, but that made it read low
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LOL waster!!
Gram, you need to test with just plain water; right out of your tap, do not have anything else in the water.. nothing period! Just whatever comes right out of that faucet
Gram, you need to test with just plain water; right out of your tap, do not have anything else in the water.. nothing period! Just whatever comes right out of that faucet
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those plants are still young; but what I do is try to mimic the outdoors as much as possible.
So by the time they are around 3 weeks I cut it down to about 20/4
about 4th 5th week 18/6
and by the time 6th week 12/12
you can change it however you want to; but I think they do a bit better with lighting off. They have night outside; not to mention a plant can only produce so much in a day and by then it shuts it self down. So in point I find it a waste.
I would not flush; I would just get some other kind of water to use, you only have 2 plants...... but if you want to use your water... then get some ph down and use it; but you may have some issues with the plant absorbing the nutrients; if your ppms is correct.. which I never heard of it being that high ever..... then you will have issues.
You are better off getting nutrients made for hard water.. cause dude your water is not hard.. it's rock solid hard!
So by the time they are around 3 weeks I cut it down to about 20/4
about 4th 5th week 18/6
and by the time 6th week 12/12
you can change it however you want to; but I think they do a bit better with lighting off. They have night outside; not to mention a plant can only produce so much in a day and by then it shuts it self down. So in point I find it a waste.
I would not flush; I would just get some other kind of water to use, you only have 2 plants...... but if you want to use your water... then get some ph down and use it; but you may have some issues with the plant absorbing the nutrients; if your ppms is correct.. which I never heard of it being that high ever..... then you will have issues.
You are better off getting nutrients made for hard water.. cause dude your water is not hard.. it's rock solid hard!
