Sick cheese ! Name that Deficiency

[Dr Herbivore]

Name that deficiency guys, I dont know what happened, ive been doing great with this bugger but it seems to have gone south on me, here are the pictures. I am trying to get a digital PH meter, but the last strip testing I did it was around 6.8ph. I need to keep my baby alive !

















everything looking great other than the bottom yellowing leaves, I need to fix this ! SOme people already said Calmag issueS?

 

[sirgrassalot]

What's it been fed? They don't look as perky as they should are they soggy at the moment?

Edited now in the same order:

Infirmary Chart

SOIL:
Cannabis strain:
Seed or clone:
Age of plants:
Height of plants:
Growing phase seedling, vegetative or flower:
Technique: (SOG, SCROG etc)
Pot sizes: (plants per pot)
Substrate/medium: (soil, coco etc.)
Brand & soil mixture, % of perlite, vermiculite etc:
Nutrients used (brand name) water ratio & Frequency:
TDS/EC/PPM of nutrients used:
PH "RUN-OFF":
Method of pH test administered, strips, pen etc:
Frequency of watering:
My last feeding was:
My feeding schedule is:
My lighting is:
Distance to the canopy:
Relative humidity:
Canopy temperature:
Day/night temp: (fluctuation range)
Current air flow: (cfm etc.)
Fan is blowing directly at plants:
Substrates condition, wet, dry etc:
Hard or soft water:
Water source, tap, and reverse osmosis (RO),
bottled, well, distilled, or mineral:
Recent pruning cloning or pinching:
Insect or bug infestation:
Pest chemicals used: If so, what and when:

 

[MynameStitch]

Sir grass, where are you getting the info you are posting from?
Not trying to take over or say mine is better or anything, but the ones I have listed are near perfect with every question and with yours it is mixed up and not as in detail and it makes things harder to look over with yours.......
What soil mixture are they in? What nutrients have you used if any? how often and how much of each if more than one?

Are you using any pH adjuters?
what water are you using?

 

[Dr Herbivore]

What STRAIN are you growing?
Green house cheese
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
seed
What is the age of your plants?
45-50 days
How Tall are the plants?
7-8 inches maybe 10
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
Veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
scrog/lst
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
2.5 gallon pot
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
30%perlite/potting mix/vermiculite 10%
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
Fish Emulsion 5-1-1, 1 tbs per gallon, every 6 days (every other watering but have ceased)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
5-1-1 fish emulsion/ 2-3-1 neptunes harvest for flower (not yet)
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
not testeed
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
rapitest soil/water capsules
How often are you watering?
every 3-5days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?

What size bulb are you using?
2: 70w hps, 1: 36 half spectrum floral tube
What is the distance to the canopy?
about 4-5 inches away
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
30-60%
What is the canopy temperature?
67-81 average 74-76
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
^ above
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
120mm for intake and 120mm for exhaust
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
yes
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
yes misted 4 times daily for added moisture inside rubbermaid
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
? 6.5 ph
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
poland spring water
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
nope
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
no
Are plant's infected with pest's?
no

 

[sirgrassalot]

What? LMAO Yes I took out the detail = Verbiage


I edited to make it better which it is in my opinion. Sorry if it's not to your liking it's the same form without the questioning repeated. Nothing important has been removed. I kicked the English up a notch. It's been Now rearranged to answer the order of the questionnaire. Basically it's missing the 'What is your' crap you really don't need that in the reply unless you forgot it's their response to a question. Hope that helps.

ie:

Guide says...
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? =
Wordy & not necessary

Mine reads...
Growing phase seedling, vegetative or flower: = Simply put.

Therefore I can find the Important info faster. There's always room for improvement, No? Maybe you'll warm up to it once you've given it a chance?

 

[Dr Herbivore]

No need to fight, I have given the information regardless, I only fed a 1/4 strength fish emulsion, and the tap/spring water combo like you reccomended before stitch. Im not sure what has gone wrong, and I am using hyponex/seedling starter mixed to get a good soil/perlite ratio. THe seedling starter has vermic/peat/perlite of 20/30/50 its a really airy mix, i thought it would work well. I also added 1/4 strength espoma plant tone and a tablespoon of bonemeal. Thats pretty mcuh it, it seemed like a safe mix but I suppose I have issues. I am getting the digital PH meter today, so I can test runoff etc. BUt as of right now my plant is continuing to spread this disease, and I need to control it. ANy suggestions as to a quick fix?

ALso, i do have aluminum sulfate for PH down, what should i get for Ph up while im gettin my digital ph test today? haaaaaalp

 

[sirgrassalot]

No fighting, I will always explain myself so there's no misunderstandings. As you've probably figured out only the order has been changed & the verbiage removed. Some folks I see were kind enough to place their answers in bold type use colour to separate their answers from the jumble. I trust they're doing that for a reason? It helps too - whatever works. Simplicity works for me. Maybe categorize the Q: Put all the "What is your" in one group the "How is your" in another...j/k

 

[Dr Herbivore]

its getting worse by the hour guys, i got a digital ph test and it is saying exatly 6.5....shouldn't that be normal !!!!?? What do i do in order to fix this?

 

[CrunchNasty]

dr H,

do your leaves curl or twist? does the green look unusually pale on the leaves? what about the new leaves? I have some plants that look like yours, the leaves kind of sag or droop down, but they aren't dry and and not soggy either.

 

[Dr Herbivore]

i'm not even using coco dude

 

[MynameStitch]

More details is better and you have mixed it up so please stop using it, because you have left out some important details, not to mention when you leave out details the person may not understand and mis information is happening, that is why It was made the way it was.
I have it in order also by important information and it's detailed together so I can look right where it needs to be. what works for you is not working for me or others and since I post and help out a lot more than you, well majority wins.

 

[sirgrassalot]

It's in the same order & like I said the only thing missing is the verbiage care to point out what's missing???LMAO don't bother there's nothing except the grd. 5 English. Thanks for the friendly pms.

 

[MynameStitch]

Dude, I think I know who you are........ omfg you really need to get a life velvet.

 

[sirgrassalot]

I think you have a very vivid imagination there.

A little controversy to bump up the guys sick plants thread.

 

[Dr Herbivore]

I think we need to focus on the sick cheese guys ! I am loosing fan leaves by the day.....I will give you more pictures, but I REALLLY need to fix this? Instead of fighting about helping, could you please help me? I know dolomite lime= ph up, and aluminum sulfate=ph down....which one should I use for my problem?


heres a pix of one of the fan leaves dying that i cut:

 

[Queso45]

If you recently tested your soil at 6.8 then you do not need to adjust it at all. You should regularly check your PH, but if it is in the "ok range" then don't add ph adjusters.

It looks to me like you have issues with calcium, magnesium, and nitrogen. Have you given them any recently?

Wait for mynamestitch to confirm it before you add cal-mag, but definitely don't play with your PH if it's sitting at

I'd say quit cutting the leaves off also. You might as well let the plant use everything thats left in the leaves. If you cut it off---the plant just moves to the next leaf to get its nutrients, which probably speeds up the loss of leaves. When the leaf is all shriveled and dry to the point where you barely pull it and it falls off... then remove it.

 

[MynameStitch]

Herb, I will help you out, but sirgrass has the damn questions all mixed up and confusing me can you please fill this out one more time, I can help you, I am pretty sure I know what it is, but I need to know some info first, WIth him removing some of the details I need to know some of the details you forgot to add when you filled it out.

So the only thing you are feeding them is fish emulsion correct?
If so you need to get some phosphorus in them, use 1tsp of rish emulsion and use the neptunes harvest 1tsp per gallon of water and feed every 5 to 7 days.

Your plants are hungry man.

 

[Dr Herbivore]

would high yield 20-20-20 be sufficient?

What STRAIN are you growing?
Greenhouse cheese
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
seed
What is the age of your plants?
about 50 days
How Tall are the plants?
6-10 inches trained under scrog
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
vegetative
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
scrog
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
3gallon
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
soil hyponex mixture, 30%perlite/potting mix/vermiculite 10%
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
fishermulsion 5-1-1
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
not tested
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
6.8
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
PH pen
How often are you watering?
once every 3 days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
haven't fed anything recently.
What size bulb are you using?
2: 70w HPS 1: 36w floral tube (mixed spectrum)
What is the distance to the canopy?
about 4-5 inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
30-50%
What is the canopy temperature?
between 76-82
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
day: 75-80 night: 68-74
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
2 120mm fans, 1 exhaust 1 intake
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
yeah
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
moisten every once and a while
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
perfect
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
tap (sat for 24hrs)
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
nope
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
no
Are plant's infected with pest's?
nope

 

[GreenBowlsmoker]

dude , listen to stitch , she knows her stuff , i have personaly been helped by her , and my babys did a 100% turn around . i had root rot bad , talked with her and in two days i was just as good as new . i cant help you , but i am liveing proof that stich can and will help you if you give her all the info she needs .

here are my sick plants




notis how they are all limp and leaves drying out , well here is 2 days later







you can see here that they have there vigor back and are healthy again .

stitch rules

 

[Dr Herbivore]

I know that stitch is the best, thats why I try to consult with her first I provided the information needed, so don't worry. If i need a good dose of food, should High Yield brand 20-20-20 be a good source of everything I need?