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[LyryC]

Not running anymore testers would help immeasurably.
Not knowing their habits, growth/feed rates, if they yield, specific care requirements, etc just makes for numbers you cant count on.
Makes for an adventure, but adventure doesn't pay the bills.

Its gonna get easier with lower temps coming.
You mentioned something to me about p/k boosts? Id introduce it slowly, ramping up to 75% of the manufacturers recommendation over a weeks time. I say 75% because no matter how transparent the nute company is, they still want your $.

The 4 pounds from 2 trays won't b e happening here anytime soon, if ever. Its just a thought, a # game so to speak. Also a potential goal/idea for revenue.

I can't wait for the lower temps, my a/c is on almost all day.

ya i don't think PK boosters are even needed. I just have 2 lbs of koolbloom sitting here now and I know I don't need it, seeing my NTOG this round, maybe later?

I dropped the EC down to 1.1 and the Ph is steady 5.6 now with feeds. Less is more and its showing. I think a pk booster will only mess thigns up for me.

My mix is 5 gallon r/o
this order mixed to
20ml cal/magic
7.5ml silica
5ml sm90
40ml hygrozyme
5ml root excell
18ml micro
27ml bloom
ph = 6.3
4-5 drops of an ph down.

When do you guys drop silica? if you do, and root excell says not ot use past week 5 and im ganna stop week 4.

Cal/Mag all the way thru, making an immense difference, lemon haze is clearing up her calcium insanity.

And since pk boosters are for ripening, can I do pk booster alone with water and ph? Never used those things before as "boosters" more like additives with AN, like Overdrive, Me thinks that product is good btw, and well im confused by all this shit.

 

[LyryC]

Lyr

I hope this is received in the same spirit in which it's meant.

I'm sort of confused by some of what's going on here.

If consistency and production are king, why dick around with seeds in the first place? Find a few proven winners and get to work.

Why the mucking with the feed? In my [very] limited experience with coco, 1.2 EC at ~ 5.8 pH was bulletproof. Why reinvent the wheel with one feeding at 6.2, another at 5.8, another at 6.0, etc..?

I've sorta tuned out on the heat discussion, but at 81 degrees, nobody should be having any hissy fits and changing sex on ya. 91? Maybe. 81?

If you let it, there will always be "something else" to distract you. I'd focus on locking down the easy shit first. Not much you can do to affect the weather, but proven varieties & a sort of well-established feed schedule are easy places to start.

Anyway - plenty of people here want to be supportive and see you have success. The questions, I've thought, have all been constructive, and the suggestions seem to be the same - focus on the low-hanging fruit, fix that, and then work accordingly.

I do want consistent results, I just made that post cause It was an idea I got, from counting the pots and wondering if they hit 2 zips per gallon like we all aim for, what that would equate too. GPW stuff. Maybe its not my current aim, but its definitely on the horizon.
Can't tell me you guys never thought of those things... guess I won't share em next time.

im not reinventing the wheel... just trying to cater things to my needs... you know how they say everyone is different, including their garden?

While you guys think im mucking around, im tinkering and learning... I don't wanna be some idiot just growing 6/9... with some ph up/down, it takes way more than that. and I got my hands on some feed charts used by some big time producers and well, they use a whole shit load of products to meet the supply demand is asking for. not saying im going to mix 10+ things in my res but there is 100% benefits coming from what I am doing, things are getting better. I'm making 8 different strains happy right now, i think more... I'm trying to figure out the best, not perfect way for me to tailor to everyones needs, check.

ya no one is changing sex, maybe they aren't in the most ideal conditions but its really not as bad as it seems.

oh my distractions are from everything besides the grow. IF I only focused and spent money on this, lol, id be sprout junior in a perfect world lol

Right now things are static till weather changes regarding the environment. the only next big thing for the garden would be new hoods, besides that, new location.

oh and ballasts/timers, that little shit lol. I got that all figured out man. I got an excell spreadsheet with "quarterly, biannually and yearly" costs/purchase requirements. I got strain guides for everything I grew more than twice. I even save charts and shit, I got a whole folder of canna notes, remember that guy Don Juan Matus? I got those notes saved, bunch of stuff.

Just need to organize it all, and get more space... if I had more space, id definitely be able to veg out 30-36 plants per run but thats impossible here as id like to uppot and veg for 2 weeks before bloom.

I know folks wanna help but its how you approach with your help that matters... they should model after you man

 

[SirSmokalot]

Definitely got a lot of heat stress.

GSC got hermies on the preflowers

got work to do

BATF F2 #1 again has preflower ballsacks. Just a few.

Sugar Cane Train #1 had a hermie on a preflower too.

Need to get this heat issue resolves ASAP.

You say your hi temps are 87. Had those numerous times growing.
Ran the gsc for yrs now and many friends. All rooms in the 80s regularly. Never had a nanner. Not one of us.
I don't know what u do, but plants don't like it. To be honest cookies has always been one of the easiest strains I've ever came across. Even if I beat the shit out of em they still shine. I've let em go from wet all day to droopy dry about as stressed as possible without death n still had no nanners and a full recovery. Nearly impossible to fuck up. Anybody back me up on this lol.
U got something to figure out where you are going wrong. Something is up for real.
And I agree with wildgrow. And AS

I've seen you shrug off great advise several times, or read something contrary to the good advise n decide that's what you'll do

Honestly it really isn't any harder than 6/9 cal mag sugar enzymes silica booster
Other goodies to add but this basic approach achieves killer results from a ton of people including friends . From what I'm sure that way achieves, and from what I see in here, you may do well to make it that simple.
It's like all the experimenting has been done by those who came before you. Learn to follow before you can lead, then tinker.tinker from a point of already putting out dank. Fuck seeds for a while and clone the shit outta a few n get a handle on things. I bet winter comes and it's more of the same unless something changes.
How are you Ph things pen? Is it calibrated? Broken? Using drops n kinda guessing ? You got light leak? Like real bad light leak or a faulty timer? Evil elves fuckin up your grow at night? Something is up whether its you or circumstantial. Fnd the weak link cuz you should never have a nanner on a gsc preflower without serious issues.
Wanna help but its hard ya know you can't force shit on people. I know what I do and have done has always worked and been well received by all the critics. Several friends on here have taken certain bits of advise from me only after smoking the stuff themselves but sometimes that's what it takes. I've got friends in other towns with the best shit for miles and miles just copying the exact things I do cuz it works so they follow.
And that's how I got good. Followed first. Stuck with it a while realized the improvement that I could try to make and tinkered 1 thing at a time. Then do honest side by side on a small section before ever really converting my garden to the next way of doing things. Takes years, money and dedication. If there's a problem it needs to be addressed or the years just keep piling up.
Anytime a friend can back up advise, I listen.
But the real thing I guess us followers of this thread should do is just watch cuz in the end there's a million ways to do it and its your garden and all motives are different. I need my room to perform all the time, otherwise I wouldn't be much of a professional.
Something is wrong though so I hope you get it sorted.

Maybe try fox farm ocean forest add some lime and perlite, PBP soil bloom, cal mag, sweet and koolbloom bloom powder hygrozyme
Ph 6.5 all day every day
Or flora nova instead of PBP. I prefer nova for dirt.
Doesn't get any cheaper , easier , or consistent .
Want a schedule ill suggest exact dosages and days to use. Real easy.
Just please find the source of all of your probłems with these nanners. At a point it's obvious it's causation, not coincidence

 

[wildgrow]

Whats your exhaust fans cfm rating, taking into account the impedance for total length of the runs on your ducting and filter?

Gears are turning... your space is 175 (5x5x7) to 200 (5x5x8) cuft. A fans ability to move air falls expotentially over distance... And that's just got me wondering, what are the true cfms your getting from the fan?

If you haven't done it already - I suggest looking up the detailed specs of your fan (or another the same size/cfm rating, if you cant find yours) over a ducted distance and the filter specs to see how much air exchange you actually have.

As far as the p/k stuff goes, you know Ive been cutting that stuff throughout my short, inexperienced time here. And the biggest difference Ive seen is that the plants are much less stressed.
Not saying I don't have problems - Haha, no - just have to check my thread to see Ive got them too.

Ex-ps new partner is 1 of those guys with 25 bottles of potions, powders and tonics. At least 5 of them are to combat the stresses caused by the other stuff and another 5 are to hide the signs of stress. Its crazy! He must spend $200 per tent run (12 plants) on nutes and chems. All the plants taken down so far look, smell and taste like hay. Exactly like the smell of a field dying in the summer sun. And he says coco is junk - impossibly hard to grow in. As Bugs would say, 'What a moroon.'

Basically, I think we're all trying to help you out here, brother. Theres just 1 or 2 little puzzle pieces (whatever they are) that are keeping the closet of love from being the slam-danmiest.

 

[LyryC]

I need a break from these boards.

This shit is all too ironic for me to deal with.

Stoners who don't even know hte truth on 9/11... and can't control themselves... almost twice my age, looking like straight jackass's. And its even more ironic when they call me a stupid fucking kid, fucking aye... im out of what to say about it.

I paid for this service and I can't even get a reply with help for my albums...

Ima put some pictures up, let your guys blood pressure lower.

87F high temp is above lights/top portion of the bloom room.

right now its 77 lower fan, 82.4 sensor above 2nd fan at light level - no ballast exhaust pointed at it anymore.

I'm being open about my shit when I could just throw up a couple pictures of some buds and have people ooohhh and ahhhh like nothing else happens but I been keeping it real.

Too real. Ever see those dave chappelle skits " when keeping it real, goes wrong"?

My thread.

Its my fault, I keep asking questions making me look like a retard, when really im just trying to spark some conversation/ maybe learn some new shit, get people involved.... Idk i guess i made my thread in a way that only lets people criticize everything i do...

but I aint trippin.

I got BATF, Pineapple haze, SCT #1/#2, Silver Skunk, GDPxQuerkle, and some ntog buds, all making me happy. Thats what counts, not all these fucking people on icmag who need to be recognized and followed.

I don't follow much my life, very seldom-ly, look where it got us... we followed the two party paradigm for so long that now we are uncomfortable with any new ideas of reform and a way of moving foward and are stuck.... and whose fault is that again? us 25 year olds or the 45 year olds and thats just one thing being followed.

Im a pioneer for myself, my mistakes are so tiny compared to other peoples lol... Im on another level in life altogether... I know what lifes about, and kinda how to get there, right now im bouncing around between obstacles on my way to the ultimate goal we all strive to achieve, love.

Its not hard to explain, easier to show, my work ethic is there. I can pump out 2 piece in ceramics when most do half of one.

Its about applying yourself and information, but you have to sort and organize the information, and when its coming from multiple directions/sources and experiences, you must literally compute all that shit and make sense of it.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again. I'm doing my best, and im doing WAY BETTER than a lot of other people on here, in similar situations or even better ones...

So don't think im against you because I don't agree with your advise or use it right away... some things took me a whole year to click in my head cause it takes a new perspective on things...

not a cartman meme lol...

boom goes the dynamite guy.

 

[LyryC]

Whats your exhaust fans cfm rating, taking into account the impedance for total length of the runs on your ducting and filter?

Gears are turning... your space is 175 (5x5x7) to 200 (5x5x8) cuft. A fans ability to move air falls expotentially over distance... And that's just got me wondering, what are the true cfms your getting from the fan?

If you haven't done it already - I suggest looking up the detailed specs of your fan (or another the same size/cfm rating, if you cant find yours) over a ducted distance and the filter specs to see how much air exchange you actually have.

As far as the p/k stuff goes, you know Ive been cutting that stuff throughout my short, inexperienced time here. And the biggest difference Ive seen is that the plants are much less stressed.
Not saying I don't have problems - Haha, no - just have to check my thread to see Ive got them too.

Ex-ps new partner is 1 of those guys with 25 bottles of potions, powders and tonics. At least 5 of them are to combat the stresses caused by the other stuff and another 5 are to hide the signs of stress. Its crazy! He must spend $200 per tent run (12 plants) on nutes and chems. All the plants taken down so far look, smell and taste like hay. Exactly like the smell of a field dying in the summer sun. And he says coco is junk - impossibly hard to grow in. As Bugs would say, 'What a moroon.'

Basically, I think we're all trying to help you out here, brother. Theres just 1 or 2 little puzzle pieces (whatever they are) that are keeping the closet of love from being the slam-danmiest.

I can't squeeze in the booster fan anymore, or another 6 inch 400 cfm hydrofarm inline fan.

470 cfm rated filter.

no clue what it levels out to be, but theres more than a breeze coming out the exhaust port, infact i can't keep soft things on top of hte tent or they blow off or around n make noise, like wax paper lined cutting trays lol.

temps went up from when i wrote that speech earlier, now its 78.6 F and 84.3F.

Its ganna creep up to the 80F - 81F and hte top never hits above 86 anymore...

I Checked the filter/ fan / everythign is fine, winter absorbs alot of that heat... this building sucks.

If only i could separate the air that cools the lights from the grow room.

i don't want ot cutt hte hole in the attic, just the thought of all that exposed fiberglass and the mm layers of dust/debri id have to crawl thru, with a lot of roofing nails sticking inches out from the roof just inches above me, fuck that attic the roof slopse so the sides are pinched and the middle of the attic is open, i need to get to a fairly open side, but its not easy, or healthy/safe.

i'll try to see if I can squeeze that booster fan into the mix again, but I really don't see a good spot for it.

Ive noticed nothing but better plants w/o all the extra, but I know for a fact, done correctly, with proper timing, execution(dosage) yada yada, its a game changer. That shits blowing up aptus thread from jack, definitely not just base lol. but then again environment is like 80% of hte grow so i guess it doesn't matter what I use, its all ganna hit a bump in the road lol.

lol @ ex p - the guy isn't drying his shit long enough. He's jarring it moist, my first grow w/ the green crack, i did that, jarred it after 4 days, it never cured into that good smell, or even had a strong smell. Had a good stone to it , but nothing else. and it smelt like hay to me too. I know exactly the smell you speak.

And I know everyone is trying to "help", its the fact that its not all genuine help, im sticking up for myself, not into antics anymore.

Good jokes welcome tho! its easy to see thru the bs.

 

[tleaf jr.]

I have no dog in this fight...L your my dude but you gotta relax bruh its only a forum just roll a fatty, and go on lurk status that's what I do , if you feel you get criticized by everyone quit posting words just do pics ....as you can see in my thread I barely convo in there because people have a tendency to get under my skin so I avoid people being all in my bizness .... we are here to learn and have fun if those things aren't happening whats the point ...it shouldn't be a pissing match , only a handful of people have smoked together on here so no one really know whos product is what ....a picture cant get you high it just looks good

this is all from a good place bro , not criticism

 

[SirSmokalot]

See how you took it to another level about yourself. We are talking growing weed. Follow a program for a few runs. Don't make a change or multiple every run
U get nanner on solid shit, something up with what you are doing . I did not have a hard time deciphering who to trust info wise. I simple review the results.
You are one of the few dudes on here having these feeling. Odd man out. The rest of us just talk shit to each other u got emotions all mixed in. We are trying to help. But blowing smoke up the ass doesn't help. It's only like 6 people posting in here since the start. We must want to help.
U do you bro. Ill quit trying to help. I just call what I see, just like I do in real life. The faster I get set straight the faster I can have success, so I attempt the same for friends. Wanna feel attacked that's on you. Not here to spare feelings. Just grow dank n maybe pass on some good advise here n there.
If u notice there's lil criticizing taking place. More ball busting and info sharing.

9/11 lol

U are a trip.

But for real something is wrong over there causing you nanners. That's the last thing ill say n the last ill check in here. Makes my head hurt.

Best of luck dude.

 

[silver hawaiian]

See how you took it to another level about yourself. We are talking growing weed. Follow a program for a few runs. Don't make a change or multiple every run
U get nanner on solid shit, something up with what you are doing . I did not have a hard time deciphering who to trust info wise. I simple review the results.
You are one of the few dudes on here having these feeling. Odd man out. The rest of us just talk shit to each other u got emotions all mixed in. We are trying to help. But blowing smoke up the ass doesn't help. It's only like 6 people posting in here since the start. We must want to help.
U do you bro. Ill quit trying to help. I just call what I see, just like I do in real life. The faster I get set straight the faster I can have success, so I attempt the same for friends. Wanna feel attacked that's on you. Not here to spare feelings. Just grow dank n maybe pass on some good advise here n there.
If u notice there's lil criticizing taking place. More ball busting and info sharing.

9/11 lol

U are a trip.

But for real something is wrong over there causing you nanners. That's the last thing ill say n the last ill check in here. Makes my head hurt.

Best of luck dude.

I don't want this to come across as piling on for the sake of piling on, but SO MUCH THAT

Couldn't tell you the last time I smoked some herb and was like "PSSH this must've only had FOUR BOTTLES, You need to get on that 12-bottle shit bro."

Lyr, you can't be a mad scientist 'til you've got full command of the Jr. Chemistry Set.

As such, I'm looking forward to being "one of those idiots running 6/9" when I get my house/life back together.

I made this comment earlier in re: your view on the world, but I genuinely feel like it applies here too: You seem intent on complicating things/putting yourself in a sort of dis-advantaged position, and I'm not sure why.

All those 20-bottle-and-more guys you're talking about, do you think they started with all them dang bottles on day 1? More likely, they probably started off as idiots running 6/9, and then once they had a successful, stable garden & production, they add things incrementally.

Life is full of obstacles broseph - it's up to you to choose which ones you spend lots of energy trying to knock down, and which ones you just go around..

And Lyr, I'm again telling you this as someone trying to help you get your own help, the writing's on the wall in here -- you're losing the attention of the very people trying to help you, as a result of your attitude toward their/any help.



Anyway - probably sealed my fate with this post, but as evidenced by the posts of every single person still in attendance, I thought it was worth emphasizing.

 

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gsc

 

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[SnowCreature]

It was George Bush who did 911, right dude?

 

[tleaf jr.]

 

[LyryC]

No it was misses santa clause and that revolting reindeer rudolph.

Presidents are scapegoats. They are just puppets for hte public to point at and label/blame...

 

[wildgrow]

What plant is that in #994? Leaves took a beating but the bud looks good bro.

All the new girls look super fucking healthy.