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strain_hunter

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I really should turn off email notifications. I was getting ready for supper and watching a movie so I'll be brief, sorry.



I am not committed to combating racism. I am too lazy and egotistic for that. I am not interestetd in changing your opinion. I don't even care that much if other people are racist. I just tell them like I see them. When I really like someone I'll shut up and talk about another topic to preserve the friendship, but for the rest of the people I usually don't really care, which admitedly makes arguments escalate. What can I say 🤷‍♂️ Mea culpa.

I also wasn't judging you based on a single statement, as you know. My impression of you, after months of reading your posts in this thread, is that you are insecure, needy for attention and admiration, eager to prove how smart and educated you are and two faced as far as projecting a chill cool guy image but being a disingenuous weasel in reality.

As I said in the other post, I came to the conclusion that you are racist after reading the way you talk for months, not after reading single statement. I don't need to engage in rebuking arguments with anyone. I don't need to prove to anyone that I am right because I don't care if I'm right. I don't need to win any argument on racism or politics because I understand different people have different opinions, and people's experiences in life shape their political views. Me calling you a racist is judging your attitude, not the arguments you made today.

You can think what you want, you can say what you want, and I'll judge you over what you say, if I want. Feel free to do the same. I expressed my views on racism and immigration clearly in the various posts I made today.



Nobody is silencing you or deleting your posts. This is a clumsy strawman argument. This is not my thread or my forum. Saying that you are racist is a judgement of character, not a challenge to your free speech. You can say what you want and so do I, unless Shiva or the mods tell me to shut up.



When I said it's pointless to argue politics with strangers online, what I mean is it is pointless to me, and that nothing that I personally value, comes out of these arguments.

What I literally said in my last post is "Anyway that was a lot of politics for my taste. I don't usually like to partake because I genuinely think there is nothing good to be gained to argue these things amongst strangers on the internet."

If other people enjoy arguing about this, go ahead. Again, not my thread or my forum. Not my rules. Argue about whatever you want, it's not like you need my permission.



That is true. Which is why usually I never talk about these things on a forum, when I can hold my tongue in. I have been a part of this thread for 3 years I think. Shiva can tell you how many times I participated in any kind of politics talk. Same reason why I never go to the Speakers Corner.



I failed to be brief, as always.

But yeah to finish, this is not personal for me. I don't hate you or anything. I just dislike people that act like you, or like I have seen from you in this thread. And I have the bad habit of telling people why I dislike them.

This is getting nasty though, and it wasn't my intention. But arguments escalate, that's why they are arguments. I don't really hate anyone that I don't know personally. So if you would like me to delete this post after you read it let me know. I say this sincerely, I have no need to win any arguments.


Good night.
The more you ramble on about my psyche instead of addressing the substance, the more you prove one thing: You have nothing to say. Take care—I won’t play audience to your embarrassing spectacle.
 

shiva82

Well-known member
The more you ramble on about my psyche instead of addressing the substance, the more you prove one thing: You have nothing to say. Take care—I won’t play audience to your embarrassing spectacle.
in the u.k . we say ' water off a ducks back' , you can't please everyone. imagine the essays people could write about me haha .

i value your input and i don't agree with revs perception of you , nor is it of any of my business .

i can't and won't silence anyone

but please rise above it , and remain as i value your input .
 

revegeta

Not ICMag Donor
Unfortunately I don't have much time today but I am of course open to constructive discussions. But I prefer a private discussion. So if there is anything else from your side, please feel free to write to me. I wish everyone a nice evening.
Cool! In that case I will copy and paste the last 5 pages and send them to you via PM. Good evening to you too 🙏🏻
 

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