sheffeild Blues x [Blues x (Blues x Blueberry)

[cheesey]

Those plants look just fine... slight micro-nute def.. but otherwise kushty

All the best Cheesey

the crappy brown bits on some of the leafs is from were i dropped some nutes on them when i was feeding .

ph 5.8
ec 1.3
1 ml regen a root per ltr.

still under the 125w enviro . changing too a 250w hps soon

the tall seedling @ the right back is a smelly plant over powers the other 5 but ive a feeling it will be a male ...

 

[dank.frank]

but still posts in the thread with out saying a word about the clone i have being fake(thats just real nice)

ive smoked some of the bud what ive got and so have some of my mates. its ok nice taste and smell but lacks on the buzz side . it has nothing in strenth next too psychosis and the same with the yeild .
but i get cannaboy will say differant .im not making the fake clone sound bad as shes a very pritty plant in full flower . but theres alot of better stuff out there.

Sorry to hear of your confusion and getting caught up in the mix. Your handling it rather well I must say.

Can I ask a question though, with out sounding trite?

If you've smoked it (mystery clone) and were somewhat unimpressed, why would you EVER begin to work on some sort of breeding project with it? Just doesn't makes sense to me. I mean, even if it was the legit or original "blues" .... I understand you were trying to bring a legend to seed...but if that legend failed to impress you, why even bother with it at all???? I mean, at the end of the day, it would have been YOUR name on those seeds...and if it failed to impress you, it likely would not have impressed others...



dank.Frank

 

[cheesey]

Sorry to hear of your confusion and getting caught up in the mix. Your handling it rather well I must say.

Can I ask a question though, with out sounding trite?

If you've smoked it (mystery clone) and were somewhat unimpressed, why would you EVER begin to work on some sort of breeding project with it? Just doesn't makes sense to me. I mean, even if it was the legit or original "blues" .... I understand you were trying to bring a legend to seed...but if that legend failed to impress you, why even bother with it at all???? I mean, at the end of the day, it would have been YOUR name on those seeds...and if it failed to impress you, it likely would not have impressed others...



dank.Frank

because when i got the clone i told it was the real deal and theres alot of good words about the blues . i didnt hit a whole plant to make my seeds if you read . i only brushed polen on to 1 bud site to make myself some test seeds 50 ish . if all was good with the offspring i was going to hit a cpl of clones after (im not now ) too make more seeds . so thats why i seeded it b4 smoking it as i understood it was the real blues .

 

[cheesey]

tbh now the fact has been made clear that myself and others have been passed a dud i dont think any1 needs to be posting anything else as its 110% clear .
least we have smoked out a rat , and others hopefully wont be misslead by him again . ( TOO MAKE IT CLEAN TOO SUM I DONT MEAN THE RAT IS THE CLONE FAIRY I MEAN THE RAT WHO PAST HIM THE FAKE CLONE KNOWIN IT WAS DUD.) i feel for the fairy as he has no idea whats has been going on . but he will be back very soon .

so on with my unknown x ks grow .

also i asked a super mod about letting verge back on but he was given the ban due too posting photos with ugorg name all over them as far as
i can make out . .

 

[bigwity]

cheers ... i feel sorry for the clone fairy tbh if any1 has been scrwed left right and center its him .
yes i have other plans but least i know the clones are gen 110% lol .as cannaboy has nothing to do with them .
neva know i might find something real nice out of the 6 i have growing . time will tell .

dont throw any seeds away bro im gaging for new plants no matter what they are i dont fall into the trap of name chaseing anymore i love all weed man lol some people would gag to grow your throw aways

 

[edgey]

well it seems things are a bit clearer ........sort of lol

at the end of the day the lesson to be learned in all this is no matter how good someone tells u a clone is unless you grow/sample yourself with a sample of the real deal your taking someone elses word for it ........after all is said and done no one should be banned or warned for having opinions on someone elses stock because thats what they are , just opinions ......

good luck with the rest of the grow cheesey , i think i'll give my clones to someone who'll be happy growing them out fake or not

if i've offended anyone with any of my comments i do apoligise but like i said everyone is entitled to an opinion

stay safe

edgey

 

[cheesey]

ive been thinking hard this afternoon and ive made my mind up .
I am going to carry on with crossing the named cut with my ks male , maybe if i find a better male out of the plants i have i will use that to hit the named clone again . . then send loads of testers out and if i have good reports back ill put them on seedbay at a low price as i have had loads of pms asking have i still got seeds left .

so lets hope the 6 i have in my tent turn out good .

 

[cheesey]

ive been thinking hard this afternoon and ive made my mind up .
I am going to carry on with crossing the named cut with my ks male , maybe if i find a better male out of the plants i have i will use that to hit the named clone again . . then send loads of testers out and if i have good reports back ill put them on seedbay at a low price as i have had loads of pms asking have i still got seeds left .

so lets hope the 6 i have in my tent turn out good .

i was going too flower the 6 plants next week but there isnt room to fit them in 1 of my tents . so i will top them and lst for 4 weeks untill my nightmare kush is finished then put them in my tent .....

as i binned my ks male i will use the polen i have saved and when my clone is bigger i will hit it .or if i find a new male out of the 6 plants i have ill use that . so all meen well there will be loads of seeds for testers .

 

[edgey]

i was going too flower the 6 plants next week but there isnt room to fit them in 1 of my tents . so i will top them and lst for 4 weeks untill my nightmare kush is finished then put them in my tent .....

as i binned my ks male i will use the polen i have saved and when my clone is bigger i will hit it .or if i find a new male out of the 6 plants i have ill use that . so all meen well there will be loads of seeds for testers .

good on ya m8

edgey

 

[dank.frank]

ive smoked some of the bud what ive got and so have some of my mates. its ok nice taste and smell but lacks on the buzz side . it has nothing in strenth next too psychosis and the same with the yeild .
but i get cannaboy will say differant .im not making the fake clone sound bad as shes a very pritty plant in full flower . but theres alot of better stuff out there.

so thats why i seeded it b4 smoking it as i understood it was the real blues .

So, did you smoke this mystery clone or not?



dank.Frank

 

[Black Smurf]

So, did you smoke this mystery clone or not?



dank.Frank

No time to smoke it , it's da Blueezzz...................Kerrrrrrrrrchinggg!!! .............almost

 

[cheesey]

So, did you smoke this mystery clone or not?



dank.Frank

frank you quoted in your post i had smoked the bud from the clone so why ask ??? i will tell you again YES i smoked some of the bud nice taste and ok high , not as strong as psychosis and less yeild than psychosis . but still a good smoke ...

 

[ILoveit]

frank you quoted in your post i had smoked the bud from the clone so why ask ??? i will tell you again YES i smoked some of the bud nice taste and ok high , not as strong as psychosis and less yeild than psychosis . but still a good smoke ...

Are there seeds of psychosis or can it be reversed?

 

[fizzbomb]

I think what people are maybe wondering myself included is why would any breeder use these for breeding, in your own words " i found the 10 ks i popped to find a male were all over the place pritty unstable, 2 of them had very weak stems and needed help too stay up right .and as you pointed out in your next post " i got 5 fems and 5 males out of the 10 seeds . i used a 250w in a 75cm sq budbox . dont tell me there wasnt enoght light in there as i have had no problems with other seeds / clones " so your saying it was defo not down to them getting poor light, just shit genetics basically, but this is what your using for breeding with cheesy?? dont make sense to me m8 ???

 

[cheesey]

I think what people are maybe wondering myself included is why would any breeder use these for breeding, in your own words " i found the 10 ks i popped to find a male were all over the place pritty unstable, 2 of them had very weak stems and needed help too stay up right .and as you pointed out in your next post " i got 5 fems and 5 males out of the 10 seeds . i used a 250w in a 75cm sq budbox . dont tell me there wasnt enoght light in there as i have had no problems with other seeds / clones " so your saying it was defo not down to them getting poor light, just shit genetics basically, but this is what your using for breeding with cheesy?? dont make sense to me m8 ???

were in my posts have i said the ks are poor genitics ???? no were . all i said was the ks was all over the place when growing what has the size of the blub has to do with the way a plant grows ??? .

As its been pointed out too me by 5 or 6 icmag members and 1 mod who have been keeping a eye on the thread the only members here who have criticized what i am doing in a negative way have been members of uk 420 so that realy shows they/u realy dont like what i am doing .
if u have only negative stuff too say u may as well stay out of this thread .......

 

[cheesey]

Are there seeds of psychosis or can it be reversed?

no and no . but all mean well there with be some s1 psychosis crosses very soon .

 

[dank.frank]

I am NOT a member of UK420...just for the record....

Tell me more about this psychosis. I've heard about it in chat talking with DocLeaf and have seen the name pop up here and there; What kind of plant are we dealing with here? What's her story?

Like I said, I really enjoy hearing about the clones and keepers from all over. I always find it fascinating.



dank.Frank

 

[cheesey]

I am NOT a member of UK420...just for the record....

Tell me more about this psychosis. I've heard about it in chat talking with DocLeaf and have seen the name pop up here and there; What kind of plant are we dealing with here? What's her story?

Like I said, I really enjoy hearing about the clones and keepers from all over. I always find it fascinating.



dank.Frank

i wasnt on about you frank .
psychosis is another old sk#1 very smelly like cheese but without that musky smell . its my no 1 skunk too date .

 

[fizzbomb]

lol, cheese why the fuck do you keep saying when some1 says something that you dont like that they must be from uk420, lol pretty lame if you ask me, thats right, it was not you who thought this, it was pointed out to you by 5 or 6 ic mag members and 1 mod is that correct, lol, ok i will try and answer some of your questions but you still have not answered mine, maybe i will get the answer im looking for after this post????

you say where did you say that the k's were piss genetics??, maybe you did not actually say this but i thought that is what you were implying after reading this " I've grown tons of KS, never had anything but 100% germination, hugely vigorous plants and a very high ratio of females over males. Weak stemmed seedlings tend to be more about light proximity than genetics. Any strain can have weak stems in the seedling stage if not properly illuminated, I think you'll find.
The KS is actually one of the more uniform strains from them, I find. They are more concerned with good/interesting genetics than uniform bag-appeal or rows of dead same plants from the sound of their blurb. Lots of us prefer it that way, I think?
Smile, for example, threw out several distinct phenos for me. I've just been reading elsewhere someone growing a Smile that went 13 inches in the first seven days of 12/12. Whilst others barely stretch at all.
I have yet to grow a dud from them, and have not had a single seed fail on me either.

but you replied with lol,

i got 5 fems and 5 males out of the 10 seeds . i used a 250w in a 75cm sq budbox . dont tell me there wasnt enoght light in there as i have had no problems with other seeds / clones ...

which said to me that maybe you were trying to blame the seedlings that you had popped as the seedlings you popped you got in your own words cheesy, "i found the 10 ks i popped to find a male were all over the place pritty unstable, 2 of them had very weak stems and needed help too stay up right ." so maybe now you can answer MY question, why would a breeder ( you ) use the above for breeding with??? that was my only question, why would you use weak and unstable males to breed with cheesy???

cheesy i did not critizize what you were doing, i just asked a question, where in my orignal post did i critize you??

and just for the record also, lol im not a member of uk420 as well, cheesy i think it a good thing your doing ( postiive ) but the only question i asked was why use weak unstable males to make seeds with??? I dont think its a case of I dont like what your doing and im a member of uk420 lol, could not give a shit what you do bro, was just asking why you were using weak unstable males for breeding with, dont think that is an unfair question do you??? dont think it makes me a member of uk420 also asking that question as well does it cheesey??? so hopefull i have answered a few of your questions, and hopefully you can answer the only question i have cheesey, will i ask it again??? why did you use weak unstable males for breeding with???? cheesey if some1 did not come into this thread and say the blues cut you had was not the blues you were planning on selling these beans, and even after everything that was said you still agreed to sell the beans ffs, dont give a shit if the male parent was weak and unstable, maybe this is the point im trying to get at, you were going to make a strain with a shit male for a parent and sell the beans??? cheesey do you understand that there is a very good chance of that weak unstable male getting passed on to the beans that you were planning on making and SELLING, so why use it in the fucking first place cheesey, you lost me there, hopefully I can get an answer to my only question. and why is that question i asked negative, sounds like a valid question to me cheesey.

 

[jolee]

lol, cheese why the fuck do you keep saying when some1 says something that you dont like that they must be from uk420, lol pretty lame if you ask me, thats right, it was not you who thought this, it was pointed out to you by 5 or 6 ic mag members and 1 mod is that correct, lol, ok i will try and answer some of your questions but you still have not answered mine, maybe i will get the answer im looking for after this post????

you say where did you say that the k's were piss genetics??, maybe you did not actually say this but i thought that is what you were implying after reading this " I've grown tons of KS, never had anything but 100% germination, hugely vigorous plants and a very high ratio of females over males. Weak stemmed seedlings tend to be more about light proximity than genetics. Any strain can have weak stems in the seedling stage if not properly illuminated, I think you'll find.
The KS is actually one of the more uniform strains from them, I find. They are more concerned with good/interesting genetics than uniform bag-appeal or rows of dead same plants from the sound of their blurb. Lots of us prefer it that way, I think?
Smile, for example, threw out several distinct phenos for me. I've just been reading elsewhere someone growing a Smile that went 13 inches in the first seven days of 12/12. Whilst others barely stretch at all.
I have yet to grow a dud from them, and have not had a single seed fail on me either.

but you replied with lol,

i got 5 fems and 5 males out of the 10 seeds . i used a 250w in a 75cm sq budbox . dont tell me there wasnt enoght light in there as i have had no problems with other seeds / clones ...

which said to me that maybe you were trying to blame the seedlings that you had popped as the seedlings you popped you got in your own words cheesy, "i found the 10 ks i popped to find a male were all over the place pritty unstable, 2 of them had very weak stems and needed help too stay up right ." so maybe now you can answer MY question, why would a breeder ( you ) use the above for breeding with??? that was my only question, why would you use weak and unstable males to breed with cheesy???

cheesy i did not critizize what you were doing, i just asked a question, where in my orignal post did i critize you??

and just for the record also, lol im not a member of uk420 as well, cheesy i think it a good thing your doing ( postiive ) but the only question i asked was why use weak unstable males to make seeds with??? I dont think its a case of I dont like what your doing and im a member of uk420 lol, could not give a shit what you do bro, was just asking why you were using weak unstable males for breeding with, dont think that is an unfair question do you??? dont think it makes me a member of uk420 also asking that question as well does it cheesey??? so hopefull i have answered a few of your questions, and hopefully you can answer the only question i have cheesey, will i ask it again??? why did you use weak unstable males for breeding with???? cheesey if some1 did not come into this thread and say the blues cut you had was not the blues you were planning on selling these beans, and even after everything that was said you still agreed to sell the beans ffs, dont give a shit if the male parent was weak and unstable, maybe this is the point im trying to get at, you were going to make a strain with a shit male for a parent and sell the beans??? cheesey do you understand that there is a very good chance of that weak unstable male getting passed on to the beans that you were planning on making and SELLING, so why use it in the fucking first place cheesey, you lost me there, hopefully I can get an answer to my only question. and why is that question i asked negative, sounds like a valid question to me cheesey.

it appears to me that he was just slating the killerskunk to get a reaction when he finally realised the clone he had wasn't blues.
im guessing he's regretting saying that now the plan is going ahead regardless.

i think what everybody is trying to say, but without being rude (its like walking on eggshells round here) or causing any offence is..

a real breeder would never have pollinated the clone without sampling it first.
a real breeder would have grown out far more than one packet of killerskunk to find the male.
a real breeder would've also flowered the female killerskunk to get a true understanding of the genetics.
a real breeder would not have used weak stemmed poor males for breeding.

i think if you look back at the thread mate nobody is actually critising anything your doing infact rather the oposite and your getting quite a lot of support for what could only be described as an half arsed attempt. i think everybody is being more than fair and has given you the benefit of the doubt on more than one occasion but when all you are doing is, in your won words 'pollen chucking' your going to get the odd question asked of you that your unable to answer, it is the nature of the beast. for you to fall back on your 'you must be from UK420' line rather than adressing the points raised and justifying your actions shows you have even less knowledge than the people here are giving you credit for.

i really didnt want to post in here again now all the 'is it/isn't it blues' charade is out of the way but now ive logged in today to see your still using the 'you must be from uk420' defence I feel like all the time ive spent trying to point you in the right direction has been a complete waste of time.

if your going to make seeds or breed cannabis you need to at the very least appear to know what your doing, and right now mate you dont. by repeatedly attacking the people of UK420 (who were more than welcoming to you, the thread is still there now) your doing yourself no favours atall.

making seeds for fun is one thing but when you profess to be a breeder you need to have atleast a rough understanding of what your doing, why your doing it and what you hope to achieve.

please dont react to this in a negative way because when all is said and done all I am trying to do is help you understand why your getting some of the responses that you are and hopefully make you realise there's more to this game than dusting 'elite clones' with pollen, a helluva lot more!

i'll be interested to read your response to this and I really do hope your here to learn and grow yourself as a breeder but if your only interest is making a quick buck on the back of other peoples work just say the word and i'll leave you to it.