Heck I remember getting those SFVs off seedbay, kryptonite seeds. I grew some monster outta those. There was a big argument between Swerve and Capt forever about that strain. I can tell you I'm running Cali's Tahoe again for the first time since it's release. It's defineatly more hardy and grows bigger than I remember. The SFV they use in about every fem variety they offer from what they list it as. But after these Tahoes I'm gonna order a pack of SFV as those were always my favs