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SFV OG Kush

englishrick

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Valley og is sfv,, Taho was the first widely available og in 94,,but I believe it all came from the also old Florida Crippy??? ,, chem was similar to a old old dogbud derivative thing mixed with a Crippy ,, somewhere in the middle is chem 91
 

Cannavore

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valley og is NOT sfv og


most OG cuts are S1's or bagseeds from pounds of Orgnkid/Josh D/Ghost cut.
 

englishrick

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Thanks for the correction,, i seriously appreciate it

Is the ghost any good?,,, i heard the banana got renamed Chiquita?

What's your favourite cut?
 

Cannavore

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ThaDocta said:
Jesus, this is still going on and it's still wrong.

Josh D = Orgnkid OG = OGers = Ghost OG (if you can actually trace yours back 15 years. If you can't trace it back direct first hand, don't ever call your "Ghost" cut Josh D.

The above mentioned Cutting was first passed online around 2002 by Orgnkid. S1 seeds and hybrids were made and sold between 2002-2006 by Orgnkid and 3C's Seed Companies. THOUSANDS of OG S1's were sold between 2002-2006. That's where the majority of "vintage" OG clones that aren't the Josh D cut came from. Or bagseed from the packs.

SFV OG = OG was never called directly as the clone until Swerve came online in 2005/6. Swerve started the moniker "SFV" OG in relation to an actual cut. There ended up being other "valley og" cuts, but none predated the Josh D. SFV DID NOT COME FIRST. CALM released it also in 2006 and they claimed it was the same at the "Butter" OG.

Hell's Angel OG = OG Clone around 2007 sourced by Wick650 from Orange County Bikers

Face Off OG - Bagseed from late 90's OG Kush pounds. Tharealogkushman foudn the seeds, I popped them and kept the #4. The grower never had a "face off" clone, it was just a name given to that batch. "Face Off" is technically somethign that was popped bagseed from those pounds. The cdub claim that his is the original "face off" is bullshit. Because there never was one, it was just pounds of OG. Not a clone being grown called that.

Poison OG - Bagseed from late 90's OG Kush pounds found and popped by tharealogkushman of source genetics. Bag seed phenotype very sour raid poison funk flavor.

Legend OG = Real one is a clone from CALM at Malibu. Should be a short fat plant, not pure og, most likely. If it's the tall lanky OG looking Legend, it's a clone that was mixed up in a trade bait deal. It's SFV instead of real legend. Has been passed as legend since.

Topanga = Just another renamed OG cut that was popularized at clubs in Socal about 2007/8. Just another OG.

G Cut = "skywalker" og clone from Real NPKali dating to early 2000's in SFV. Probably a renamed Josh D cut.

Skywalker = Same as above or any OG that hit the market in Socal during the release of the new star wars movies.

XXX OG = OG Kush S1 bred by Orgnkid Distributed by CALM at malibu.

Sour Kush = Orgnkid's original release 2003, Soma NYCD x Josh D Cut

Blackberry Bubba Kush = Orgnkid Original release 2003 Black Rhino x Bubba Kush

Loompa's Headband = An OG Kush clone hyped on ********* by Loompa. It's just an OG cut that was sourced in Mckinleyville in 2007. Could be anything, but odds of authenticity predating Josh D are slim none. Dank OG, but it aint Josh D.

Triangle Kush = Clone brought to the online community by Cornbread Ricky in 2006. No mention of TK on the forums predating 2006 other than random posts but no pictures dating back to early 2000's late 90's. Dank OG, but didn't hit the "online scene" until long after the Josh/Orgnkid/Ghost clone and seeds had been online.

Ocean Grown OG = A completely made up bullshit story by John aka paradiseseedsmod and Kailua Kid. They 100% fabricated a story up about "John from Grass Valley" and the Ocean Grown story. Complete bullshit and isn't even worthy of mention beyond getting people stopping to use that name. ppl using Ocean Grown don't realize they are perpetuating one of the most false, blatant lies at branding ever in cannabis.

Abusive OG = OG clone brought online by member Abusive. Claimed it came from Snoop Dogg direct. Was bullshit and most likely an s1 from Original Orgnkid OG s1's. There's evidence to support that claim. Abusive is not very "og" like and lack certain depth and complexity to its flavor. Hardly OG.

Tahoe OG = Another OG name made up by Swerve. There were stories linking OG to tahoe back then, but it wasn't until swerve and his made up stories with UNREGISTRD and the multiple changes of handles (MisterX, etc) that there became an actual "Tahoe OG". shoot, when swerve first came online he didn't even grow og in 2005. he was growing "rainbow kush, garbageville purple kush, and pure kush phenos he traded with Suge nite.

F Cut OG = OG clone brought online about 2007 by an ICmag member, Dankiest OG, that lived near Lake tahoe. Claimed it came to him as just "Kush" some years prior.

Fire OG = Raskal's OG clone that came from the SFV around 2006/7. Well after the Josh D was out and seeds were years since sold of s1s. When I lived in Cali, my buddy petey claimed to have sold the trays to raskals crew around that same time. Could be any OG cut from clone or seed from after 2005.

Big Poppa OG = This shit ain't OG Kush, so people should stop calling it OG.

Crippy = Don't even get em started on this bullshit. STOP CALLING OG CRIPPY!! It just perpetuates another absurd lie.

Floridah, Paris, Perris, etc etc... all just recent branding renames of what are likely the same group of clones found in Josh D s1's or bagseeds, or a copy of the original clone renamed.


Now can you all PLEASE STOP BEATING THE DEAD HORSE AND PUTTING MORE MISINFORMATION OUT THERE THAN THERE ALREADY IS? If you can't read and comprehend correctly please stop perpetuating what ever you thought you read. Just leave it alone. Doing more damage than good.


pretty good info here^^

i've only grown TK so i don't have a favorite although i have tried ghost og and sfv og also.
 

skotty

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So basically all these chems/ogs of which you speak could be re-created using chem91 / skunkva or where created from cause og kush is a pheno of chem91 s1 etc etc ecsd is another example of her lineage etc etc or have i got the lineage wrong?

The josh d cut was 1st passed in 2002? Chem91 was around in the early 90s or before..

Appreciate the info
 

englishrick

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I got a 5 pack of seeds of chem91 s1 back in 06,,,the keeper from 5 seeds was one of the best OGs I have ever had in my life,, maybe even THE BEST,,, probby number 1 yeh,, i called it MyOg and I passed it about on here,,, it's was simply incredible,, and a fukin seed selection too,, wtf

Ever since I've been desperately searching for chem91 or any S1 keepers,,, i assumed sfv was somewhere in that group,, "how does the Crippy come into the story ?
 

jrelax

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San Fernando Valley.
Or is it Fernando?



Anyway.


DNA got that OG18. is this what you all talk about?


There is maybe better OG. Breeder CALI SEEDS ?
Something with CALI.

The Cali is better, DNA is second best. CALI is best some say.


PLEASE


best OG today in fresh seeds also feminized is ??
?
?
 

jrelax

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the most important for me and others must be


fresh seeds.
and good price.


I cant buy this MOST EXPENSIVE best miracle lalalalala seeds.


All i need is feel good when i smoke it after hard time grow.
Feminized please.


Best or top 3 OG , FRESH seeds awaible for everyone now is ?


Remember one thing.

Real OG is sativa dom.


The best OG makes people rap also good.
Upplifting and happy, maybe also superman things
 

dire_wolf

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Just got SFV via sublbc. Not gonna lie... a little nervous to run her after hearing all the "finicky" stuff. Cloning is also my admitted weak point so we will see how that goes... sounds like she's worth the trouble.
 

Mengsk

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Mengsk

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I have little knowledge of the lineage of Chemdog or SFV. But I have gathered enough that what's called OG or OG Kush has a characteristic look. Here's a pic of Special Reserve OG. It looks like the clone only plants are mostly stabilized seeds now. That is more or less confirmed with so many breeders.


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Wendull C.

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Bro, that looks nothing like og kush. Not hating or tryin to burst your bubble.

Now some of karma's seed plants are dead ringers for clone only OG plants.
 

Wendull C.

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I can say archive seeds face off x face off has some good og in it as well. Personally I have seen nothing good from California connection or DNA in the og department. Though DNA has some fire in the collaboration with Crockett family farms.
 

Happy Times

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the most important for me and others must be


fresh seeds.
and good price.


I cant buy this MOST EXPENSIVE best miracle lalalalala seeds.


All i need is feel good when i smoke it after hard time grow.
Feminized please.


Best or top 3 OG , FRESH seeds awaible for everyone now is ?


Remember one thing.

Real OG is sativa dom.


The best OG makes people rap also good.
Upplifting and happy, maybe also superman things

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=331040
 

Mengsk

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I don't want to get involved in any peeing contest about what genetics come from where or what is better. I am saying you can recognize the look in plants after a while and some look the same. OG in the name does not mean Hindu Kush mountains indica. It could be a reference to it but the OG varieties are hybrids. It may mean ocean grown, or some status for a well known variety. But as you can see SFV is different from Hindu Kush. This board has all kinds of information about which OG is which and came from where. But be realistic with yourself about the amount of production coming out of California. Sure east coast has a high population density and indoor can be high grade but it is kind of silly reading pages about where which strain came from. California been growing cannabis just as it has been growing many other agricultural crops. You can pretty much name the exports coming out of each state which means the rest is imported. It is all widely available, this is the point I am trying to make. It doesn't cost a thousand bucks or digging through twenty year old genetics to find this stuff. It's everywhere. There is more than one company that has developed, bred, worked with, backcrossed popular strains. Enough of it is shared that it is more similar than different IMO. If you are looking for 1991 seeds to find good plants in 2018, what reason is there that seeds being released this month are any better than ones from 1, 5, 10, 20 years ago? Some people it's hard to teach common sense but have you ever compared a $100 or $1000 pair of sunglasses to a $2 pair? How about wine, is a $1000 bottle any better or ever worth it? Seems to be only a certain audience that goes for one or the other.

Ocean grown kush has a look to the buds, they are hard and dense more than skunk or sativa. That is how I'd describe it, as a tall or stretchy plant but with dense tight nugs and tops. It looks completely different from say the haze or foxtail/octupus tropical sativa varieties. Instead of continuous fluffy/airy flowers, more like golf ball nugs on a tall plant.
 
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Wendull C.

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No, it is really not. I have had my clone since 2002 or so. Before I got mine it was 560 a zip.

Related og is very unique with a flower to leaf ratio like no other plant around.

Check out jackmayoffer and his thread " documenting all cloneconly ogs" it shows some great og. Or some of acridlabs photos. He shows og traits very well in his photography.

Anyway, good luck in your search. Shit the way things are here now w social media and all someone should be willing to share with you.
 

dank.frank

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Real og is more indica dominate imo. It us a stretch indica like blueberry. Just my .02.


Surprised you think that. I've always thought of "real" OG as being a bit more sativa actually. (70/30) Not just in effect but also in growth habitat, due to the stretch of 2.5 - 4x.

The oldest OG cut I've grown, was so up and rushy, it would pull you off the back of the couch and put you on the edge of the seat. Now that settled into a stupor of sorts, but that first 20-30 minutes could be uncomfortably intense at times.

The more modern OG cuts, are certainly more like their "kush" name sake. People breeding and chasing OG like cuts that are more productive, easier to support, quicker flowering, etc. have created a commercial product that isn't truly representative of the original. The only thing people try to retain is the flavor for some reason, when it wasn't just the flavors that made OG special.

TK, probably has the most compact growth profile of the OG cuts that are accepted as legitimate and even it has 2 .5-3x stretch in smaller containers.



dank.Frank
 

Wendull C.

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Hello Frank, my experience with og may be due to my own predilections. For instance I use Durban before bed as it is food night time smoke for me.

I do get that rush you are talking about. If it is good og I should be high before I'm done exhaling.
 

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