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setting up shop in Michigan

I used to work security. My three x girls and my former employer, and my current employer all politely say I give off an "intense vibe." heheh. Maybe it's the redneck t-shirts and shaved head that gives people vibes? I don't know.

I guess i just don't look the part. I'm one of those guys who is very mainstream in most ways but also happens to love pot.

Shit, thanks for posting. It actually brought about some reflection. I need to change my social approach to those kinds of situations, I guess. It's been very hard for me to find trusty middles...
 

CARE giver

Sour Bubble Connoisseur
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I used to work security. My three x girls and my former employer, and my current employer all politely say I give off an "intense vibe." heheh. Maybe it's the redneck t-shirts and shaved head that gives people vibes? I don't know.

I guess i just don't look the part. I'm one of those guys who is very mainstream in most ways but also happens to love pot.

Shit, thanks for posting. It actually brought about some reflection. I need to change my social approach to those kinds of situations, I guess. It's been very hard for me to find trusty middles...
Being intense should help. It lets people know you mean business. But just try to open up to people and find some people that could be good candidates for a middleman job.
 

greene

New member
Definitely a lot of good info coming through in this thread on the local scene in MI, it's on my list of places to move this year, hope the caregiver thing goes well but guess like the rest of Life I'll have to see how it goes once I'm actually there. CO was the original plan, love the place from what I've seen and not just the mmj laws, but no luck moving from the backwoods to mountain country. MI is uncharted territory but I have a patient lined up already. What other states have caregiver laws in place?
 

DankSide

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Keep this thread going guys. I just got back from visiting CA - its so unregulated there that I was able to get my rec and enter several different dispensaries. I saw a lot of decent bud out west but most of it was too processed and didn't carry that amazing smell. For instance - the LA Confidential I found there had no smell, where as the one I grew had this amazing musky Afghani black hash smell to it.

The other option is MI, but I'm not trying to move out there if the laws are going to get worse and not better. The property values are much better, are you not allowed to sell your excess product to dispensaries though?
 
This is my worry too. It doesn't take a PHD in political science to see the trend; where there are Republican majorities, there is vast anti-cannabis legislation on the horizon. Literally every major piece of legislation in the United States short Ron Paul's worth with Barney Frank has been Democratically-motivated.

Thus, I worry for Michigan. Clearly the attorney general has sided with the local conservative DA's on a a variety of issues.

I hope to christ I'm wrong, but I don't see guys being able to dispense with the clubs for much longer. They'll tighten this thing up IMO. Odds of Michigan going through what Montana is going through (ie, Republican majority causing problems/killing the system) is much more likely than the sustained hands-off approach of liberal CA.
 

DankSide

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This is my worry too. It doesn't take a PHD in political science to see the trend; where there are Republican majorities, there is vast anti-cannabis legislation on the horizon. Literally every major piece of legislation in the United States short Ron Paul's worth with Barney Frank has been Democratically-motivated.

Thus, I worry for Michigan. Clearly the attorney general has sided with the local conservative DA's on a a variety of issues.

I hope to christ I'm wrong, but I don't see guys being able to dispense with the clubs for much longer. They'll tighten this thing up IMO. Odds of Michigan going through what Montana is going through (ie, Republican majority causing problems/killing the system) is much more likely than the sustained hands-off approach of liberal CA.

From your posts I sense the deep pessimism. With the unemployment rate as it is though, how can the republicans justify denying more jobs?

To be fair, I don't know the republicans of your state and what they want - I DO know that a lot of republicans favor small business and entrepreneurship. Since MMJ startup almost embodies the spirit of entrepreneurship (risk, sacrifice, reward) then how can they ever justify disembodying it?
 

dagnabit

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From your posts I sense the deep pessimism. With the unemployment rate as it is though, how can the republicans justify denying more jobs?

To be fair, I don't know the republicans of your state and what they want - I DO know that a lot of republicans favor small business and entrepreneurship. Since MMJ startup almost embodies the spirit of entrepreneurship (risk, sacrifice, reward) then how can they ever justify disembodying it?
the publitards here in MI are a bit different in that they are a more libertarian bent..
then again you could divide the state into everything south of mount pleasant and everything north.
north of that line you have very localized "mind your business" type of true conservative.
south of that line....
well everything sucks south of that line..

north of 45° is the only place for me!!!
 

greene

New member
Pretty much.. I hate how certain groups like to ignore the facts and obvious/potential benefits of a situation when it doesn't benefit them directly or fit into their plan. :/
 
the publitards here in MI are a bit different in that they are a more libertarian bent..
then again you could divide the state into everything south of mount pleasant and everything north.
north of that line you have very localized "mind your business" type of true conservative.
south of that line....
well everything sucks south of that line..

north of 45° is the only place for me!!!
I find north of the line to be filled with traditional small town values. Uneducated, bored, boring, isolated people who love nothing more than chatting it up about how so and so is sleeping with so and so's daughter. At a diner near Torch Lake, I heard more ninny-ninny gossip from grown men with beards, pick-up trucks, chewing tobacco and psuedo-alpha posture than I heard from my Jewish grandmothers circle in Manhattan.
 

DankSide

Member
It would be a tragedy for any of us to move out there only to have our dreams cut down by blind men in power.

How certain is everyone that dark times are about to fall on MI's medical scene?
I stand between MI or CA - in one there is affordable living, a better market and fewer worries about cooling - the other holds a market that is already inflating at alarming rates, pricey real estate, as well as high living costs.

CA or MI... ugh
 
Hey I have been checking out AZ new law and it seems almost identical to MI. One caregiver, five patients, 12 plants each. They are not allowing patients within 25 miles of a disensary to have a caregiver though. The dispensary laws are tight as hell, but it seems like the caregiver laws are just as good.

I figure since the dispensary laws are incredibly complex, their prices are going to be higher than normal, thereby screwing patients.

It seems to me that the AZ laws have a lot better chance of staying the same, since they have passed a comprehensive law, where as MI laws will def be changing.
 

zeppelindood

Captain Expando
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That is hilarious that people actually WANT to move to MI... 49/50 economy in the nation and not getting better.
 
Hey I have been checking out AZ new law and it seems almost identical to MI. One caregiver, five patients, 12 plants each. They are not allowing patients within 25 miles of a disensary to have a caregiver though. The dispensary laws are tight as hell, but it seems like the caregiver laws are just as good.

I figure since the dispensary laws are incredibly complex, their prices are going to be higher than normal, thereby screwing patients.

It seems to me that the AZ laws have a lot better chance of staying the same, since they have passed a comprehensive law, where as MI laws will def be changing.


The 25 mile thing completely kills it...
 

awright434

New member
I live in MI now and there is a lot of potential to make some money in the mmj scene here. I think laws are definitely going to change but mmj is here to stay.

I have also recently live in CO. It is an amazing state with a great mmj scene that is imo superior to CA. That being said, anyone from out of state is not going to make any serious money in their mmj scene.
 
The 25 mile thing completely kills it...


I am not too sure about that. Have a look through the rules for a dispensary. I am thinking with all that crap they are making them go through, like having a medical doctor, the prices are going to be super high. Patients will be looking for a way around the 25 mile rule, like a second address in the country and begging for caregivers that provide them with decent meds at decent prices.
 

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