Sensi Seeds Hashplant Beef

[Jack Crevalle]

So I was looking for a variety that has a short flower time. I also wanted something relatively strong and frosty. I imagined an Indica would fit that bill the best, and money was not a problem.

I do my research and come across Sensi Seeds Hashplant. I like the fact they advertise a finish range around 45 days, was frosty, and was a good breeder due to reports from the company and hearsay.

I use up valuable space and time to look for the keeper mom. Take cuts to sex etc.etc.etc. Not to mention the salty price of $150 for the seeds.

So yesterday was day 65 and only now the plants are starting to be ripe (4 plants). There are still white flowers popping, but most growth has stopped, and the trichs are close to milky with some amber starting to tint them. The structure on the buds is amazing, very dense and very columnar filling out well, and the potency is my last hope. A few of the plants have paper thin leaves and kinda krinkly , and one was crazy chlorotic for the first internodes then greened out after the fourth internode (genetic?) No pics or smoke report so far, as I did chop yesterday, but I'll keep this thread posted.

My Beef - The main reason I bought these expensive seeds were because of the fast finish times. I was warned by 2 people on this forum (after the fact) that these were not 45 day nor 55 day finishers for that matter, so I kinda felt this was coming. I believe this company is selling these based on false finishing times, and suckering alot of sales this way. False advertisement.

No wonder they have no help desk here..just great, hopefully the male I kept will at least be good breeding stock (hopefully it will not overpower tastey strains and bring the good structure over to them) $150 is unacceptable for what they deliver as 45 day hashplant.

Lucky for me I went to a med club and found an amazing cut of a super frosty Bubba hybrid that finishes true in 45 days, and other kushes that finish shortly thereafter and blow any other strain away in frostiness/flavor/high/bag appeal.

 

[jim dankness]

i think nearly everyone expects any seed company to round downward when it comes to the flowering time of their strain. and remember that sometimes one person's version of maturity is different than another's.

and phenotypic difference can account for some of that variance in flowering time, too. do you grow under entirely ideal conditions, with the proper humidity & temperature parameters observed? if not, you can easily add one or two weeks to your flowering time.

also, sometimes seed parents mature longer than their clone progeny. i've seen as much as a three week difference in those regards.

that being said, i've never had any problems with Sensi's genetics or flowering times. the Super Skunk i recently grew finished in exactly 50 days, with resin glands entirely cloudy & just beginning to amber.

like any seed co., your mileage may vary. but plant maturity is in the eye of the beholder, not your seed packet.

 

[BadTicket]

yea some of em count the flower days from the day they get 1st flowers and not the day u flip to 12/12.. Like it fucking should be.

Don't waste yer money on sensi. There is cheaper/better stuff out there. Like Mandala :smile: Sure they may not have as much cup winners or hype going on for em, but u wont have to whine about bad customer service, germ rates or shitty no-trich weed u get from $150 beaners.

Boo Sensi seeds

 

[Jack Crevalle]

like any seed co., your mileage may vary. but plant maturity is in the eye of the beholder, not your seed packet.

Hahaha. I've grown Rez Sour D, Golden Skush, Fed Mikado, Hazes, Sweet Tooth, and elite Kushes, Romulan etc. Thanks for taking the devil's advocate, both I and you described maturity and know what we do my friend. I grew out a pack and none matured under 60 days. If you don't believe it fine, I have some seed co's cuts I'll keep and some I won't and I am not sending one more penny to them with those ridiculous prices. No one has the right to promise a 45 day flower on a plant that does not do that. I'm the third person I know who confirmed this. Like it or not, this is just so customers know.
Peace

 

[Hindu Killer]

Thanks for the info JC. I would agree Sensi has wnet down hill since the Dronkers have had it. To the point I am now hesitant to use their stock...that once was a sure thing. A product of a breeders art.

 

[deathtosoapbar]

HK, what s happened to sensi seeds? i was under the impression tht ben dronkers formed sensi seeds, see i think the new stock has been crappy but thought the old seeds in the old package, seemed so much better, wen u say its gone down hill since the dronkers took over wot do u mean ? has ben dronkers give it up and passed it onto is sons or summat? just confused here and wanna kno how the quality has dropped badly

 

[EddieShoestring]

Are you guys tripping? Hash plant is an awesome strain. Several of my friends are growing it ATM-in fact i'm off to visit an 8week Hashplant grow later today and will get some pics in this thread tonight so you can see how it looks if grown properly-massive frosty buds with a knockout indi hit.

Do you have any pics or info on your grow so that we can see where you may have gone wrong?

eddie

 

[Harry Gypsna]

i dont thijnk hes saying its bad-its just not what was advertised/not what he paid for
buy mandala- mike is pretty spot on with his harvest times

 

[eugenegreen]

i dont thijnk hes saying its bad-its just not what was advertised/not what he paid for
buy mandala- mike is pretty spot on with his harvest times

I agree! I have yet to grow any mandala stock, but I have seen some friends mandala (satori) and I have to say I am impressed.... Sensi stuff is really bunk these days and overpriced by greeders over there in the dam... I feel bummed for your waste of time brethren... JAH Bless

 

[Guest]

I too believed the breeders statement - well - I know most breeders lie a little, but I bought both HP and G-13XHP.

Out of 15 seeds, 15 germed and 10 survived. 5 M and 5 F.


The HP is incredibly slow in veg. Some Strawberry Diesel that was 5 or 6 weeks behind has just about caught up with the HP.

I'm flowering under 1000W Hortilux on a 6 ft light rail - I have 1 girl in flower for about 4 weeks and 2 that just went in,,,, the older one, she was the earliest developer and an easy cloner. Large buds and ABSOLUTELY NO ODOR - now my nose spends a fair bit of time in the grow, but this HP is odorless thus far.

I have 2 males that appear to be good candidates, but unless this gets better near the end,,,, ehhhhh!


So who has smoked the bud????

btw,, most the girls appear to be pretty consistent.

I'll withhold final judgment till after harvest, butttttt,, seeds is like a box of chocolates - but ya spend MONTHS finding the crappy ones.

 

[INDODRO]

I've heard so much good stuff about them that I ordered some NL from them and they were crap, only had 3/4 that germed and the 2 females I got weren't any better than some crappy KCB seeds I've gotten before.

 

[Guest]

I rechecked my records, my first female went into flower 3/28/07, she was about 4 months old, and soooo slow growing then; so by my count she's 33 days or so and,,,, I don't think, 2 weeks from harvest, but looking better and better day by day.

Odor is still very, very low. I doubt the reverand and her husband would notice when invited for dinner, That low!

If I were a betting man, this plant in a true hydro, DWC, ebb n flow or simular would be a different animal entirely.
I don't do hydro,,,, yet. but I do have a candidate - and if I understand correctly, that would shorten flower time too.

I'll bet the first poster, Jack Crevalle; was growing with 400W or less of light and in soil,,,,,, any takers?

I won't grade the quality until I've compleated the seed started plants, but slow and a little difficult to grow is usually a good sign, I'm hoping they are saving all the STANK for the very last. (Not what I figgure, concidering my usual luck)

I'll get a pix in a few and post up.

you be the judge.

The girls ar all very simular in structure and growth, including 1 runt that is even slower than the rest,

One of the "girls" wasn't - but I found it prior to any pods opening.

More later

 

[Farmer John]

Sensi still has the HP? The one I have is 1 of 100 plants grown and bought early 90's and it rocks, small yields but great herb, what I hear is that they took it off the cataloque a long time ago, is it even the same thing? This one takes 60 days to finish give or take afew days...

 

[Guest]

Sensi says Hashplant flowers in 42-45 days - there in, is part of the grab. Less than 7 weeks is noticabley different than 9 weeks.
If I wanted 9 week flowering, I would have chosen a different strain.


I also got some HPXG13 that I haven't started yet.

 

[- ezra -]

The fact is the description of a strain given by (most) breeders is a description of the ideal phenotype. I am sure that there are many phenos within the sensi hash plant which do finish in the specified time. Various factors can effect flowering time, and its not really possible for every seedpack to reflect the stated flower time due to genetic and environmental factors.

There is also the point of what you consider to be a finished plant. Most breeders obviously give the minimum time it would take to produce 'mature' flowers. Many growers, especially if not growing for commercial purposes, choose to take plants well after the minimum flower time. Its only really commertial growers who will take plants at the minimum flower time.

- Ez

 

[hidingtree]

yo all ! i hear your beef . when it says 45 days ... it is usually in a hydro set up .i 'm not sure of the method ... but assuming it is E&f much faster root development etc. quicker flowering time too . but when you pay alot for seeds and your expectations aren't met .. thats a damn shame . the laws regarding cannabis seed production in the netherlands has changed . i'm unsure of the details but it has seemingly reduced quality of some holland based seed co.'s especially sensi . i must say some of the recent sensi stock we used was good quality .it is thier skunk#1 and superskunk . we paid $25 and $55 respectively about 2 years ago. they have had good germ rates , vigorous growth ,good yield ,taste , .so we can't complain . dang those expensive seeds y'all . sorry to hear of the bad news . many blessings , hidingtree

 

[Guest]

ezra - I've been more liberal than any other poster - yes it may speed up in hydro over soil and lighting makes a difference but a plant that takes nearly 50% longer - BY EVERYONE THAT HAS PAID THE PRICE AND GROWN THE BEANS tends to lead me to believe there are far more honest and reliable breeders. Especially for $135 a pack of beans

 

[bergerbuddy]

The fact is the description of a strain given by (most) breeders is a description of the ideal phenotype. I am sure that there are many phenos within the sensi hash plant which do finish in the specified time. Various factors can effect flowering time, and its not really possible for every seedpack to reflect the stated flower time due to genetic and environmental factors.

There is also the point of what you consider to be a finished plant. Most breeders obviously give the minimum time it would take to produce 'mature' flowers. Many growers, especially if not growing for commercial purposes, choose to take plants well after the minimum flower time. Its only really commertial growers who will take plants at the minimum flower time.

So you see Jack, really you havent been hard done by, I am sure that (if you really are growing ) you can find some very nice, fast finishing plants in the 16 Hash Plant beans.

- Ez

I Have to reply.... I have grown out over 20 FEMALE Hash plants from sensi seeds..... NONE... I repeat NONE of them were ripe or even NEAR RIPE at 45days...

The "quickest" I have seen was 56 days... and thats a good 10 dayz over whats stated by sensi... Plus.. even the 56 dayers could have gone... should go..60

Sensi would do well to change the description if they want to ACCURATELY portray what they are selling

Peace
BB

 

[Guest]

Hiya bergerbuddy! Thanks for stopping in, and sorry to hear of the discrepency, seems to be pretty consistant opnion though. It's not a crime and not unheard of, my AK-47 takes low 60's to reach it's best - I was hoping a male HP and a female AK might approach the parents flowering time - it probably will - in about 60 days or so.

I'm not a cash cropper - I'd rather have a lower yeilding conisure grade than the biggest phat buds of mediocre quality - all I'm saying is, this is at 35 days








dammit - just when I'd like to qoute Sensi, HP and G13XHP seem to both be sold out.and I found a description on another site that only says "fast flowering"

 

[- ezra -]

I Have to reply.... I have grown out over 20 FEMALE Hash plants from sensi seeds..... NONE... I repeat NONE of them were ripe or even NEAR RIPE at 45days...

The "quickest" I have seen was 56 days... and thats a good 10 dayz over whats stated by sensi... Plus.. even the 56 dayers could have gone... should go..60

Sensi would do well to change the description if they want to ACCURATELY portray what they are selling

Peace
BB

maybe your right, it does appear that the description is slightly off from what your saying, but I still wouldn't say by a massive amount. If you find really nice plants which take a few days longer, I wouldnt complain, but still I can see where your comming from.

- Ez