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Senators will introduce a federal medical marijuana bill tomorrow [TUES]

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m314

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HUGE said:
Yes all correct. What your missing is thatb once it is schedule 2 there is no such thing as a legit supplier in MMj state. Its an FDA regulated drug and they are all non compliant.
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There is no such thing as a legit MMJ supplier right now, according to federal law. No one is compliant right now. Schedule 1 laws are more restrictive than schedule 2 laws. The DEA is worse than the FDA. It's up to the president (and lately congress) to allow federal agencies to enforce federal marijuana laws over state laws.

Schedule 2 is a step in the right direction. I could see pharm drugs like Sativex remaining schedule 2 while the actual plant is legalized medically and recreationally. The people of the US support legalization now. There's no going back. It will just take the federal government a little time to catch up to the will of the people.
 
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mingmen said:
when do they start shipping it to pharmacies? :biggrin:
I will call my insurance and see if I am covered :biglaugh:
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Marinol and stivex are schedule 2. Both are sold in pharmacies. I think the disconnect is that you think that I'm saying you will get raw flowers in a pharmacy. No I'm saying once its schedule 2 there won't be medical flowers as smoking will not be an FDA approved delivery method for this newly approved schedule 2 drug.

Look if you Dont believe me go ask the leaders in this industry like K from trichome technologies , or tony verzura with his prana drops , and I believe just hired an ex Monsanto guy to position his company to survive the switch. Adult use/rec is the only hope for raw flowers in the long term and schedule 2 makes that a tricky proposition.
 
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All you have to do is look at the bills coming in all these states. They are preparing for the paradigm shift. Super regulated pharmacy model, homogenized blended weed, no strain names, oil only, cbd only, no home grow. That's the trend, that's the future unless we stop settling for bullshit



m314 said:
There is no such thing as a legit MMJ supplier right now, according to federal law. No one is compliant right now. Schedule 1 laws are more restrictive than schedule 2 laws. The DEA is worse than the FDA. It's up to the president (and lately congress) to allow federal agencies to enforce federal marijuana laws over state laws.

Schedule 2 is a step in the right direction. I could see pharm drugs like Sativex remaining schedule 2 while the actual plant is legalized medically and recreationally. The people of the US support legalization now. There's no going back. It will just take the federal government a little time to catch up to the will of the people.
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HUGE

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A dispensary can't sell sativex. Its a schedule 2 substance. What aren't you people seeing here?
 
mingmen

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HUGE said:
Marinol and stivex are schedule 2. Both are sold in pharmacies. I think the disconnect is that you think that I'm saying you will get raw flowers in a pharmacy. No I'm saying once its schedule 2 there won't be medical flowers as smoking will not be an FDA approved delivery method for this newly approved schedule 2 drug.

Look if you Dont believe me go ask the leaders in this industry like K from trichome technologies , or tony verzura with his prana drops , and I believe just hired an ex Monsanto guy to position his company to survive the switch. Adult use/rec is the only hope for raw flowers in the long term and schedule 2 makes that a tricky proposition.
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I think there are risks and the things you predict are in the realm of possibility...but just barely.
I don't believe that the FDA can do the job that the DEA failed at. If the people wanted no medical mj then I think your warnings would hold merit.
Realistically I don't think dispensaries much less recreational are going anywhere.
 
mingmen

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HUGE said:
All you have to do is look at the bills coming in all these states. They are preparing for the paradigm shift. Super regulated pharmacy model, homogenized blended weed, no strain names, oil only, cbd only, no home grow. That's the trend, that's the future unless we stop settling for bullshit
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I don't see the govt declassifying before reclassifying. The other things you mention are indeed concerns. Concerns that you don't address at all with any realistic action.
 
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Why the defeatest attitude that descheduling isn't possible? There is a bill in the Texas senate right now to do just that. All it takes is will.
 
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HUGE said:
Marinol and stivex are schedule 2. Both are sold in pharmacies. I think the disconnect is that you think that I'm saying you will get raw flowers in a pharmacy. No I'm saying once its schedule 2 there won't be medical flowers as smoking will not be an FDA approved delivery method for this newly approved schedule 2 drug.

Look if you Dont believe me go ask the leaders in this industry like K from trichome technologies , or tony verzura with his prana drops , and I believe just hired an ex Monsanto guy to position his company to survive the switch. Adult use/rec is the only hope for raw flowers in the long term and schedule 2 makes that a tricky proposition.
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The disconnect is in your cerebral cortex my friend. Sativex is NOT approved for use yet in the USA. Even if/when Sativex is approved and available in US pharmacies this bill will not stop you from growing your own and smoking or eating or doing whatever you want with it medicinally.
 
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Why the defeatest attitude that descheduling isn't possible? There is a bill in the Texas senate right now to do just that. All it takes is will.
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I hope you're trolling and not really this dumb. Do you understand the difference between federal and state governments? If yes please explain the differences between the federal and state governments so we're sure you have enough brainpower.
 
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MrBelvedere said:
Here is some powerful testimony from a vet from the CARERS press conference

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkIcdS3eyE

People, please take a baby step in the right direction and spread this link here:


http://blog.norml.org/2015/03/10/historic-senate-bill-seeks-to-revamp-medical-marijuana/ click "Take Action"
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Here's the 'pat answer" from the one representing our area in CO. Clicked on the NORML link you provided, entered info for our represntatives.

Carefully evaded anything concerning MMJ Bill nationwide.

Here's his response [Cory Gardner (R)...very conservative politician] :



Dear Mr. and Mrs. _____________,

Thank you for contacting me regarding marijuana. I appreciate you taking the time to write. It is an honor to serve you in the United States Senate and I hope you will continue to write with your thoughts and ideas on moving our country forward.

On November 6, 2012, Colorado voters passed an amendment to the Colorado Constitution which legalized marijuana for personal use by adults over the age of 21. Apart from the legalization of marijuana, Amendment 64 also allows persons over the age of 21 to produce, grow, and sell marijuana at retail stores. Further, the Colorado General Assembly and the Governor's Office are tasked with implementing regulations, restrictions, and taxes regarding the sale and usage of marijuana.

There have been legislative proposals that seek to exempt Colorado from the federal Controlled Substances Act (CS A) when it comes to marijuana. The CSA, passed by Congress in 1970, lists marijuana as a Schedule I substance, making it illegal to possess, distribute or manufacture marijuana.

Our founders intended for states to be laboratories of democracy and Colorado is deep in the heart of the laboratory. As proposals surrounding the legalization of marijuana continue, rest assured I am monitoring the situation closely and will keep your thoughts in mind.

Again, thank you for contacting me, and do not hesitate to do so again when an issue is important to you.

Sincerely,

You'll notice he did not address the issue at hand.
 
mingmen

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HUGE said:
Why the defeatest attitude that descheduling isn't possible? There is a bill in the Texas senate right now to do just that. All it takes is will.
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I don't think the conservative citizens of this country would allow it. Personally I think that would be a dealbreaker but I hope to be wrong.
Please link to any statements by the people you mentioned. I could not find anything pertinent on TT facebook or website but would be interested to read. Although it sounds like the scale he is working at brings a whole different set of concerns
 
mingmen

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HUGE said:
All you have to do is look at the bills coming in all these states. They are preparing for the paradigm shift. Super regulated pharmacy model, homogenized blended weed, no strain names, oil only, cbd only, no home grow. That's the trend, that's the future unless we stop settling for bullshit
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States rights is all we have protecting us now.
 
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aridbud said:
Again, thank you for contacting me, and do not hesitate to do so again when an issue is important to you.
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"Please contact me about issues important to you, so I can hand you the same line of shit again."

"Oh, and don't forget to vote for me in the upcoming election.."
 
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Changing it to schedule 2 could very easily place any and all legal growing in the hands of agri-business ONLY...
forcing many of us into the very "black" market they claim to dissuade...
 
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