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Selling back to clubs?
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,, when the DEA roll up,, tell them to "*&%^ off". 
DEA will bust you regardless if you have a Valid California Doctors Rec or not. They do not play by the states rules...they are feds. If you have less than a butt load of plants, they'll give your case to the locals. The local DA may or may not drag you through the court system. In my neck of the woods ( Southern Cali) the locals don't give a shit about the state law. They'll drag your ass into jail, tear up your house, maybe shoot your dog even if youre within the limits ( 6 mature plants OR 12 immature). The DA will most likely drop charges if your rec is valid and you have 12 plants but that doesnt fix any of the damage done or get you back your prized genetics.
When it comes down to specific strains helping to relief specific aliments then sure dispensaries hold a function to the wider medi. community. Usually specific cultigens are maintained by clone, at which point there is no reason why medi. users wishing to grow that specific strain shouldn't be encouraged to grow their own (considering they are allowed to).
I fully agree with what Hydro-Soil says,, and support that 100%
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree,,, one love
I fully agree with what Hydro-Soil says,, and support that 100%
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree,,, one love
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Hey Doc,
Yeah, it's a messed up system! On a positive note...California kicks ass when it comes to availability of great genetics. I recently turned down a FREE SR71 Purple Kush cut ( well know & respected cut) just because I need to keep within my plant limit #s and the supplier couldn't tell me the SR71 was any better than my current Blackberry Kush mom.
I'm a SoCal Native and proud of it...but a good med scene shouldn't be confused with a "perfect" med scene
Yeah, it's a messed up system! On a positive note...California kicks ass when it comes to availability of great genetics. I recently turned down a FREE SR71 Purple Kush cut ( well know & respected cut) just because I need to keep within my plant limit #s and the supplier couldn't tell me the SR71 was any better than my current Blackberry Kush mom.
I'm a SoCal Native and proud of it...but a good med scene shouldn't be confused with a "perfect" med scene
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Greyskull
DocLeaf said:That sucks,, I forgot you folks have an f-d up nazi system in place... don't ya. (county, state, fed n all that).. sorry my mistake.
that's just stupid
peace out
fuckin aye its crazy. why do you think we roll the way we do?
thats why i get a little offensive bro... its just stupid.
keep doing your thing!
just remember that giving seeds away,,,and giving herb away two entirely different things,,,,
i could give out a 100,000 seeds to patients all over the world. but if they don't know how to grow,,, what good does it do??
there are seriously ill patients that cannot afford cannabis,,and do not have the strength to cultivate it either,,, and for those they deserve free quality cannabis.
most patients that truly need it,,,but are not as seriously ill will produce for themselfs.
the people who have their liscense so they dont need to get harassed by LEO are the people that have jobs and families and usually can not grow their own, so they buy from dispensaries.
it is a shame that this is the process. i really will never understand our governement. instead of a few main suppliers providing quality ensured cannabis for the entire med community,, they want every grower to grow their own? this is such a dangerous thing because most patients who will start to grow will know little-to-nothing about growing or the security risks associated with growing ((i.e. theft,, federal agents,,, electrical hazards,,etc..)) not to mention spider mites,, powdery mildew,,or an entire array of other problems that can arise.
Like I had told the city council;
"We do not expect patients to research and produce their own pharmaceutical medication, so why should we expect seriously ill patients to learn how to properly cultivate their own medicinal cannabis?"
do what you can,,help all along the way,,and always stay safe because it is a wild world that we live in....
BhT
i could give out a 100,000 seeds to patients all over the world. but if they don't know how to grow,,, what good does it do??
there are seriously ill patients that cannot afford cannabis,,and do not have the strength to cultivate it either,,, and for those they deserve free quality cannabis.
most patients that truly need it,,,but are not as seriously ill will produce for themselfs.
the people who have their liscense so they dont need to get harassed by LEO are the people that have jobs and families and usually can not grow their own, so they buy from dispensaries.
it is a shame that this is the process. i really will never understand our governement. instead of a few main suppliers providing quality ensured cannabis for the entire med community,, they want every grower to grow their own? this is such a dangerous thing because most patients who will start to grow will know little-to-nothing about growing or the security risks associated with growing ((i.e. theft,, federal agents,,, electrical hazards,,etc..)) not to mention spider mites,, powdery mildew,,or an entire array of other problems that can arise.
Like I had told the city council;
"We do not expect patients to research and produce their own pharmaceutical medication, so why should we expect seriously ill patients to learn how to properly cultivate their own medicinal cannabis?"
do what you can,,help all along the way,,and always stay safe because it is a wild world that we live in....
BhT
The mrs and I got busted . Cost us over 20k to defend ourselves. Case got tossed in the end beause our med papers were valid. But they drug us through the courts. Ruined our crop, and caused us a whole lot of heartache and fear. Instead of thinking about how Im going to retire now im worried about how I will keep my house. So If your supplying a med club and want to do it for free. Have at it .... but untill we are safe I dont see it going that direction.
DocLeaf, the Cali med scene is not the paradise that some portray it to be. My son is dying of Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, but has a felony for growing pot, because he had more plants than the politicians thought he should have and the cops were cross sworn as DEA agents, so that they wouldn't have to obey California law. The law under which he was convicted has been declared unconstitutional. Here is the states, the Feds use money for cop toys as a lure to get local police to join the Feds in their witch hunt on cannabis. It creates a conflict of interest between cops sworn to uphold state law and the people who hired them. The feds are being sued, but it will be a while before we learn anything about that suit.
Growing outdoors in SoCal is hazardous to your health. The cops have choppers patrolling overhead and ,even though you may be legal, they will bust you in a heartbeat. Their attitude is bust you, tear down the grow, confiscate the equipment(and anything of value they can get their hands on) and make you prove in court that you are legal. After spending thousands of dollars on legal fees to prove you weren't guilty, you lose the incentive to grow again. That is the way the cops like it.
Compassion is a great thing, but there are few people willing to risk their freedom, their livlihood, their family,their constitutional rights and possibly their lives to help a few sick folks. Those who do are either stupid or saints. The med clubs are rip offs, but until there is legal protection for the growers, the price won't come down. It is just too profitable for the clubs, the cops and the legal system. It is a game that the system plays and the cops/politicians usually win and the growers usually lose. In reality, we all lose. Our constitutional rights are eroding, the sick are dying and the taxpayers are being bilked out of billions to support the incarceration of their friends and neighbors.
Compassion is a great thing. Unfortunately, it often comes with a very high price tag.
Growing outdoors in SoCal is hazardous to your health. The cops have choppers patrolling overhead and ,even though you may be legal, they will bust you in a heartbeat. Their attitude is bust you, tear down the grow, confiscate the equipment(and anything of value they can get their hands on) and make you prove in court that you are legal. After spending thousands of dollars on legal fees to prove you weren't guilty, you lose the incentive to grow again. That is the way the cops like it.
Compassion is a great thing, but there are few people willing to risk their freedom, their livlihood, their family,their constitutional rights and possibly their lives to help a few sick folks. Those who do are either stupid or saints. The med clubs are rip offs, but until there is legal protection for the growers, the price won't come down. It is just too profitable for the clubs, the cops and the legal system. It is a game that the system plays and the cops/politicians usually win and the growers usually lose. In reality, we all lose. Our constitutional rights are eroding, the sick are dying and the taxpayers are being bilked out of billions to support the incarceration of their friends and neighbors.
Compassion is a great thing. Unfortunately, it often comes with a very high price tag.
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Whatever
Always interesting to see this conversation...which gets repeated often...and really sounds like a broken record. To those that want to give it away go ahead...I've done that when I could...more power to you. I've seen many instances where straight up legal med growers in Cali had problems from all levels including DEA, FBI, sheriffs and local enforcement so completely understand why so many are hesitant to grow and the safer thing is to buy. I got a taste of the FBI/sheriff thing and what a frikkin mess. The biggest issue I've seen in some counties is with local enforcement and not federal level stuff...even for people who from what I could gather were within guidelines. Many people plain and simply do not want to grow, for whatever reason, and look to others who in my opinion should be FAIRLY compensated for their efforts especially under the current conditions that prevail.
C21H30O2,
are you the big dude i was chatting with about our mutual love of cannabis over at harborside last week? if so, major props to you for getting that chemical formula tattoo!
just to throw my hat into this ridiculous ring: docleaf's from the UK where, in a similar fashion to the rest of the civilized world, healthcare is a right and not just a privilege. As such, his perspective may be slightly askew relative to us here in the Cali med scene. So asking him whether he thinks drug companies should give away their prescription of choice is a non-starter. Love ya, Doc.
On to pricing: it's called the flood and the drought. Outdoor kids flood the market from September through May, depending on how the season went and who got caught. Still, real quality shines through. Learn your market and cater to it. If they only want purple, grow purple. If they only want kush, grow kush. Just do it better than your neighbor.
are you the big dude i was chatting with about our mutual love of cannabis over at harborside last week? if so, major props to you for getting that chemical formula tattoo!
just to throw my hat into this ridiculous ring: docleaf's from the UK where, in a similar fashion to the rest of the civilized world, healthcare is a right and not just a privilege. As such, his perspective may be slightly askew relative to us here in the Cali med scene. So asking him whether he thinks drug companies should give away their prescription of choice is a non-starter. Love ya, Doc.
On to pricing: it's called the flood and the drought. Outdoor kids flood the market from September through May, depending on how the season went and who got caught. Still, real quality shines through. Learn your market and cater to it. If they only want purple, grow purple. If they only want kush, grow kush. Just do it better than your neighbor.
G
Greyskull
humble1 said:
thats the best roadmap to a med grower's success I have ever seen.
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theBluntedOne
the clubs in LA and socal pay about 2300 a p and will buy up to 60 packs at a time. "heard of" 100 packs change hands but that was up north
Thanks goes out to the people who actually answered my question and didn't throw a tantrum. I figured that the clubs didn't pay any higher than 3500 for the best kill in town. However, I thought that they would pay 2000 for some mid-grade outdoor. Any more info on the matter would be great.
