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Seed Prices Out of control?

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Bulldog11

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I am the consumer and I will tell you that I will pay hundreds of dollars for great genetics. Anything of less quality does me no good. That is why I am willing to pay extra.
 

smokefrogg

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I may have to rethink smokin herb, if this is the effect it has on your brains.

M cake, that great next time you have a blinding headache you won't mind paying 12 buck for an aspirin.

why would you rethink your own herb smoking based on what you perceive to be the effects on other people? surely you are aware of herb smoking's effect on yourself right?

re aspirin:
can you plant that aspirin, show it love and water and light, then make cuttings of that aspirin till ad infinitum? ...let's say you could do that, so 1 aspirin can result in unlimited aspirins, that magic aspirin growing aspirin isn't worth $12?
 

u2seek42

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OH yeah

OH yeah

Well junior I am a damn sight more than 15, ya punk.

As for a "head" that will date me to those to whom I am speaking.

Yeah growin dope, must be real hardship. Not at all like the joy of growing corn. Which by the way you can get a pack of for 2 bucks Stewart bro hybrid seed corn no less.

God knows if a newbie asked me if it was safe to smoke weed I sure as hell would not send them to this site.
 

statusquo

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it certainly is true ,, anyone can make seeds and with some research do it quite successfully .. Im well aware of what goes into it all , and theres plenty of hobby breeders doing a good job of making their own seeds at home .. check the donations constantly streaming in to support this place ..

You are clearly unaware of the time that goes into making STABLE, genetics available for the MASSES. There are not plenty of hobby breeders making dank stable genetics that could be available on the mass market. I do check the donations all the time and these people are doing just that: donating. They could be getting way more for their seeds but they donate them for the sake of helping others, this is not an indicator that this is the cost of seeds. Also, many of the people donating the genetics worthwhile @ seedbay are either established companies or private breeders with a lot of experience/access to elite genetics.

Anyways, if it so easy why don't you do it?
 

Toyot4

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Well I'm not surprised, by the split here.
The fact is for the first time I've been embarrassed to be a head.

From this site, the petty bickering, the fights over what fukin fert.

The rip off prices of all the gear plus the seeds, 12 bucks for a seed that may not germ, may be a male, maybe a hermie
Fuk yeah that's a fair price.

And to you goofs, just where do you think these seeds are being grown, do you think they are hiding to grow 9 gens?

I may have to rethink smokin herb, if this is the effect it has on your brains.

M cake, that great next time you have a blinding headache you won't mind paying 12 buck for an aspirin.

The fact is many of these seed banks are affiliates, they make nothing do nothing, but drop em in the mail.

Sadly I have just ordered from ASM and have been reading good and bad reports, nothing sent, crap seeds, etc.

The owner of this site has 3 fukin seeds for 64 bucks, seems like a lot of you like to bend over.

Just disgusted!

you are dealing with things in an illegal black market, why would you expect anything different than overpriced everything. you should be thankful that there are people out there risking their freedom to provide you with seeds that you would have no other way of getting if it weren't for these few people.

and this is the 21st century you have choice over everything, one of those is to stop growing if your wallet can't afford it.

seems like you got bent over and then returned for more? :moon:
 

mmmcake

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hey u2seek42
im not arguing with you on fact that prices could be lower. cause hell id love it if they were, and probabaly will be someday. for me personaly the price and how long it last me works for me thats all.
take care.
 

statusquo

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Which by the way you can get a pack of for 2 bucks Stewart bro hybrid seed corn no less.

Corn is a legal crop. Corn is also grown all over. There is a much higher supply and therefore it is much cheaper. Also, since it is legal and there is a such a high availability, each "strain" isn't worth anything like they would be with an illegal cash crop like pot. If breeding cannabis was like it was in Holland 20 or so years ago where people like Sam could grow out 10K plants (even then it was still risky/hard) then I would say the prices should come down. Until then...charge away breeders, you deserve it for doing such a deed for the community.

As for clone houses. Anybody that can start a legit clone selling buisness that offers legit and clean cuts in medical states/cities would be extremely rich. People would flock to your location (as many people already do in places like socal).
 

statusquo

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and this is the 21st century you have choice over everything, one of those is to stop growing if your wallet can't afford it.
seems like you got bent over and then returned for more? :moon:

No need to be a dick...The guy came into the community to express his opinion. It is our duty to calmy and rationally explain alternatives/the answer we think to be the most accurate and offer reasons for why we think this to be the case.

Also, I am SO tired of people using the whole move out of the country and/or stop buying it argument. You realize this could apply to almost any argument ever, isn't constructive and a lot of time is not even feasible and in some situations impossible!
 
Not to mention that Corn is one of the worlds most subsidised crops... The price of corn is controlled by governments world wide through subsities, which is common knowledge, so this isn't a great compairision
 

growclean

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Also, I am SO tired of people using the whole move out of the country and/or stop buying it argument. You realize this could apply to almost any argument ever, isn't constructive and a lot of time is not even feasible and in some situations impossible!

Yup... I hate it too when that argument is applied. Plus, if we always just ignored something that seems to be a problem, we wouldn't solve any problems would we?
 

Toyot4

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No need to be a dick...The guy came into the community to express his opinion. It is our duty to calmy and rationally explain alternatives/the answer we think to be the most accurate and offer reasons for why we think this to be the case.

Also, I am SO tired of people using the whole move out of the country and/or stop buying it argument. You realize this could apply to almost any argument ever, isn't constructive and a lot of time is not even feasible and in some situations impossible!

sorry, the moon smiley did make it seem rude. but i guess my point is that its hard to bitch about prices in an illegal market. tell your crack dealer that he charges too much, whats the point?

you can't compare cannabis seeds to corn, because cannabis seeds retain their value due to being illegal in virtually every country in the world. corn seeds are everywhere and no shipping over the atlantic is needed.

Risk is to Reward as Cannabis seeds are to $$$
 

statusquo

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Much more civil toyot4, thanks :) +rep. Also good point on the subsidies! Does anybody know if seed production is subsidized though? I would assume this would mean less money for farmers and i'm sure agricultural corps didn't press for subsidies on seed production but I have no clue.
 

Toyot4

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Yup... I hate it too when that argument is applied. Plus, if we always just ignored something that seems to be a problem, we wouldn't solve any problems would we?

the problem here is not that prices are too high. the problem is that its illegal.

and just for comparison sakes, dj shorts blueberry on the boo is at $162. here in California where weed is pseudo legal. those same beans can be grabbed at local dispensaries for $100.
 
Also you can get seeds for what your looking to pay, check out Nirvana seeds, the problem is that you get what you pay for, so nirvana's seeds are great but totally unstable F1's. But for someone to take 5 years and stablize a strain I can tell you that I would expect to pay a lot more then unstabalized F1's
 

u2seek42

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What do you think the mark up is on seeds?

Some of you claim it is illegal to grow where they are growing, it is here too, so explain the lack of US seed banks. Where do they come from Holland, what can you buy in Holland dope.
Damn I wonder where they grow it?

Give me a rough guess on the number of seeds in the " Normal Average" plant.

Given that is good weed and will sell for 200 an oz, and 3 oz were produced.

As for growing my own for seed, well duh, I've been growing quietly since the 70's and one crop brought the next and a loan of a few seeds between friends, added to the mix.

Frankly I love the taste of the NEW dope, and so strong. and that is it's problem, you will not get to really enjoy SMOKING it. as 2 hits has you on the floor.

The bigger is always better mentality.

I just paid ASM 31 bucks for 10 ganja dwarf seeds, and some 20 free seeds, now that sounds great until they charged 19 bucks to mail it.

Perhaps I'm old and tired, or just cranky today, but I am really disappointed to see all the greed and squabbling on a board, that should be positive, I did not see all of this coming when i was a young man.

Herb meant more than just getting high. Smoking with another person, was special.

I think I will go and have a couple of hits...
 
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