Seed and international air travel

[blackosprey]

I know a dude that would travel to oversees and carry many miscellaneous things on his person. Here's how he did it.
Take a pair of jeans, inside the top of them, back side of the belt area (it's overlapped demin), cut a slit in the innerseam, near where the pockets are sewn in. push your items into this space for travel. He actually made a little"pocket" to fit inside this seam area, as well as added a small button to keep things from falling out. He also had a pocket inside a pair of shoes that he made, but since now in the US shoes must go through xray detectors, I do not recommend this anywhere in the world.
You can also accomplish this in the bottom hem of pants (minus the pocket and button options). Since both of these spots are kind of thick with folded fabric naturally, any pat down will not hint to suspicion. You will not hit on metal detectors, but I can't say that if put in your carry on, it wouldn't be seen in the xray machines.
good luck.

 

[ScythianGold]

First I would recommend shipping as I believe it carries the least risk of detection. That being said, I agree with Retrogrow. I have carried seeds traveling internationally on many occasions, I have just put them in a typical orange medicine container mixed with numerous other normal small items, or if it is a small amount, 10 or so, just mix place the bag or container in some small money purse or other item that will not ever bring special attention and mix it among others that would be too tedious to go through item by item. I do not feel safe carrying them on person personally and avoid putting them in carry-on bags; I would feel more nervous, which is a serious security problem in and of itself.

My advice would be something that will not be irregular on an x-ray scan and not make you seem nervous going through security checks.

Another great travel tip, edibles!!! There are safe ways to do anything if you really want to do it.

 

[abellguy]

One thing you could try is getting a bag of trail mix the bigger the bag the better and take your seeds out of their packaging and put them in with the trail mix. Of course you can't eat the trail mix or maybe just a little of the top to make it look cool. When you get to your destination just pour out the trial mix and sort out your seeds and onto germinating. Get the trail mix at the airport so its a recognizable bag that TSA has seen many times from one of the shops. Hope this helps

 

[bushed]

@Thirdcoast: It can be very difficult to have a smoke during lay-over, short of buying a lighter and then discarding it later security may turn a blind eye to a lighter in a passengers carry on or simply not see it but not a risk for me to take currently.

@retrogrow: it gives me confidence that you think seeds are easy, can you give an example of a small electric item that has a metal surround i cant currently think of one, I dont quite understand your shoe lace idea.

@scynthiangold: This is certainly a valid point, originally I was favouring checked bag for this reason. Luckily I am traveling with my girl who is the picture of innocence so we will not be profiled too heavily by security,

Again great discussion, thanks for everyones input

 

[Chunkypigs]

I used over the counter cold meds with the drug pellets replaced with seeds. French company boiron makes a product called Oscillococcinum that comes in little plastic vials that are perfect for holding seeds or oil or wax. I carry a bag thru the security screening that is filled with shitloads of legal metal. Coins,batteries,cameras ,iPods,and lots of little things like pens and CDs candy. The more legal shit the shows up loud on their screen the less likely they are to scrutinize a small thing hiding seeds or a couple grams of hash.

Think twice about hiding shit in your clothes... The new body scanners are no BS...

 

[bushed]

This is worth looking into, NZ is very strict with what you can or cannot bring in, I think that open confectionery is a no go

 

[187020]

How many seeds you talkin homie? Sounds risky, don't act sketchy, no blow either homie ok

 

[bushed]

My original thinking was about 40 but I may get more fems and less beans total. I certainly have no intention of traveling with any bud sourcing is not a problem at either side.

There is certainly risk involved I would not need to post if there wasnt! But to put it into perspective as long as they are not in the original packs they cannot be easily identified as cannabis seeds and will be simply destroyed by bio security at worst there will be a moderate fine.

 

[PistilProphecy]

Few months ago, came through with a few seeds from belize... had them in my fly fishing flies case, shit a brick when he picked it up while ripping my bag apart. I had an entire bag of clothes unopened. I suggest scattering them in various pockets to resemble pebbles and dirt. Sgt dickwad explained to me they were looking mostly for blow and he had a judgement of size. anything where a good chunk of coke couldnt hide in, he didnt bother.

 

[Nog Onsigbare]

I carried a plastic plate with paper towels on it with sprouts on it on a domestic flight once; no problems. But international I guess they screen you more.
Watch out for the sniffer dog at the baggage carousel, I don't know if they can pick up seeds but you never know.
I carried about 2 1/2 oz on a domestic flight once, close to my body, as my body heat warmed it up it started stinking out of the plane. I know some people could smell it.
Then as I was waiting at the baggage carousel a sniffer dog came along. Suddenly got an immediate urge to use the toilet. Stashed it in the toilet and then went back and got it after I had picked up my bags.
But I would say your best option is to post it to yourself. If you use a false name and it gets intercepted there is nothing they can do, that's if they ever bother to follow it up.
If you are mailing it yourself, you can probably spend more time hiding it in the parcel than the seedbanks do; what about one of those post bags that are lined with bubble wrap.
Put a seed inside of a bubble wrap blister, spread them out so they wont show as a mass.
Or as someone said, put them inside the seam of a pair of jeans, but mail the jeans to your address. Seeds are tiny, there are so many ways you can do it.

 

[bushed]

@PistilProphecy: Great post, good to here from someone with recent first hand experience. Which country was you returning too? I ask because I have never had my checked bag opened, do you think its possible that seeds apeared on the scanner and this is why your bag was opened?

It good to here that you think thst the seeds distributed through the bag would apear as dirt/grit as this was my thinking originally.

To the people who have answered not in checked bag what is the reasoning behind this?

 

[Pumpkin]

I've had luck with them in electronics... and had luggage searched and swabbed in detail. unscrew rather than put them in something that can be opened without tools. Don't break obvious warranty seals of course. Whatever you do don't look at the item while it is being searched. It will be a dead giveaway for them to look at the item more carefully.

But I imagine NZ would be fairly casual if it's a small amount of seeds and just dispose of them? Not really sure.

The reason I was searched because I didn't cut my hair and didn't dress for the airport. Young and stupid.

 

[RetroGrow]

@Thirdcoast: It can be very difficult to have a smoke during lay-over, short of buying a lighter and then discarding it later security may turn a blind eye to a lighter in a passengers carry on or simply not see it but not a risk for me to take currently.

@retrogrow: it gives me confidence that you think seeds are easy, can you give an example of a small electric item that has a metal surround i cant currently think of one, I dont quite understand your shoe lace idea.

@scynthiangold: This is certainly a valid point, originally I was favouring checked bag for this reason. Luckily I am traveling with my girl who is the picture of innocence so we will not be profiled too heavily by security,

Again great discussion, thanks for everyones input

Buy a cheap DVD player. Many people travel with these. After unscrewing all the little screws that hold it together, and place your contraband in a vacuum sealed bag. Put bag in DVD player. Put screws back in, and you are set. Spray a bit of Fabreze on it if you are really paranoid. Place DVD player back in box, and put it into your checked bag. Get that bag shrink wrapped at the airport, which lessens the probability that they will even open the bag, because they have to replace the shrink wrap if they remove it. A dog will not hit on a vacuum sealed bag, no matter what's in it.
The sneaker trick: very simple. Take the laces out of your sneakers. Place a seed or two into each lace hole. Tuck them down in there with a toothpick or something. Put laces back in. Some sneakers are better than others. Ones that have metal eyelets on the lace holes are usually better. Have you ever seen security at the airport take anyone's shoe laces off? Of course not.

 

[PistilProphecy]

@bushed I was coming into Vancouver. I think the reason for getting searched was cuz when I went through initial screening I reported that #1 I connected though Mexico #2 I was clammy and sweaty as fuck #3 Was not acting very cool pretty much the complete opposite of Johhny Depp in Blow and #4 I was travelling alone..

 

[abellguy]

I say the trail mix cause I have never had it looked at at all, in many many different airports. Hold it in your hand and be faking small bites till you get to the place where you take off your shoes and shit and just fold it over put it in a pocket of your backpack and put backpack on the conveyer. There is no way to distinguish cannabis seeds from the trail mix and no one is gonna look in it after you pick it up of the belt. From there your good. You could even go in a bathroom and get the seeds out and put them in your backpack, but for piece of mind just leave it till you get home. Hope this helps

 

[kushscripted]

cut a tiny slit in the top of a backpack (on part that goes against ur back but the inside where there is a piece of fabric loosely covering it).. slide the seeds in one by one and they'll fall to the bottom and sit there in the seam. when you get to the other side, just tip it upside down and massage them out.
hope this helps.

 

[Chunkypigs]

One good reason for not putting anything in checked baggage is that it's got your name on it. Since the airports all have body scanning in us now I prefer to keep shit ready to ditch if I'm paranoid. Once when I was young a bus I was in a bus that crossed an international border and they profiled us. I had a window seat to my suitcase being searched. All my stuff was in small packs hidden well in a neatly packed bag and the guy was respectful and just took a few pokes then closed it. They found a bag of white powder in one guys bag and he stayed behind. In those days imported weed had no strong smell. But you can't escape a bag with your name on it in the airport. Easy to throw out a bag of granola or a piece of Kleenex.

I like the shoe idea under the laces cause you could map out what genetics went into each hole. I personally would hate to mix up different beans and not be sure what you were sprouting back home.

Moving 40 seeds should be pretty painless if you don't look freaky.
When I travel I plan on always reeking so I keep a pocket full of biscuits if a dog ever profiles me. I've always got a days worth of herb on me, even in the airport.
I look like an old white man which will buy you a lot of passes in life, sorry my brothers of another color.

OVERGROW OBAMA IN 2012!

 

[kushscripted]

I was coming into Vancouver.

VC international is a bitch.. I got harassed hardcore last time I came from Oakland cuz I had a New Amsterdam Cafe hat on lol.
Also if u wanna know which seeds are which you can wrap them in cellophane and put different color dots on each strain with a sharpie.

 

[Nog Onsigbare]

Don't know about the trail mix.
NZ probably has pretty strick quarantine laws and bringing any sort of food in might be illegal, and they will take it off you; the last you see of your seeds will be them being thrown in a bin with the trail mix.

 

[mowood3479]

use ur prison pocket bro... u only need to use it for a few min while u go thru security then u can take it out. if ur gonna be a smuggler, u might as well do it right. its not like other ways wont work, but the prison pocket is prob your best chance for success