Security camera for grow room that broadcasts over internet

[apartmentblower]

...but doesn't require YOU (the user) to provide an internet connection... is it even possible???

I'd like to setup a remote monitoring system that i can check in on away from the actual location the cameras are at, allowing me to abandon the location totally in the event of a worst case scenario (bust). no names attached to the property , no hard evidence , just dissapear and have nothing to do with it again. so you can see having internet setup in my name at the location would be pretty odd.

i guess if nothing is available that does that one could just setup internet service in a false name or somebody else's name? or arent there security systems that can send pics / videos to pay and talk cell phones? that way the phone cant be traced back to you.

 

[ItsAllOver]

False name is the answer for you, I believe.

Either way, this is a tough thing. I wonder if you have considered the fact that you will be creating pictures of your beautiful face for the LEOs to use as evidence in the event that our worst nightmare is visited on you.

It may or may not be worth it. You'd have to be on the ball about blocking your face while in the growroom. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

 

[apartmentblower]

False name is the answer for you, I believe.

Either way, this is a tough thing. I wonder if you have considered the fact that you will be creating pictures of your beautiful face for the LEOs to use as evidence in the event that our worst nightmare is visited on you.

It may or may not be worth it. You'd have to be on the ball about blocking your face while in the growroom. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

any occasion that allows me to legitimately sport a red bandana over my face is welcomed

 

[ItsAllOver]

Ha ok sounds legit. Sorry I couldn't offer more advice.
I always said that if I owned a gun store, I'd have a point of purchase display with ski masks right at the register

 

[PharmaCan]

I don't know if Cannabis.com is still up and running, but if it is there's a user over there called "OldSanClem". He has a remotely monitored grow and he has posted quite a bit of info about the subject. His grow is completely computer controlled and he apparantly just drops by every now and then to say hi to his girls. Oldsanclem is one of the worst writers you could ever hope to encounter; he can't spell, he can't type, he has trouble putting a sentence together. But don't let that fool you. He's one smart cookie and, if you take the time to decipher what he's saying, you can learn a lot from him. As I recall, he gets into some pretty specific details about hardware and controllers and computer programs. Anyhoo, you can search his posts over there if you are so inclined.

I saw an ad where Walmart is selling pre-paid Visa and MasterCards. If they don't require any ID, that would be a good method of payment for your internet connection.

One thing you'd have to be really careful of is fingerprints. You'd need to be wearing gloves from the very moment you even laid eyes on your place.

This concept is interesting to think about, but you'd need so many degrees of separation that it would be really hard to pull off.

PC

 

[soilgrower]

Interesting read, reason why I say so is that at present I have a distant indoor grow and I was considering setting up a remote web cam system so it was possible to keep a caring eye on my ladies.

The way I see it is that on the days when I know they wont need watered... its nice to look on the webcam and check temps, humidity etc online without having to be there... I always like to supervise watering if possible even if it is automated an addiction or compulsion you tell me

 

[dreadvik]

Steal local wifi or you could construct something easily with a laptop and pay as you go mobile to take snaps and send them to another mobile. I'd do it via bluetooth to the phone and use the already available tools in linux to create the MMS and send it Could get costly on credit surely tho and feedin it with credit would be a pita.

Then there are the 3g dongles on payg so you could install apache and password the directory and have the camera drop the images in there so you can pull them later via tor etc!

 

[etinarcadiaego]

Good question OP. There a lot of options for you, all depending on your budget. Larger companies can allow you to monitor the feed over SECURE IP and the feed is sent via whatever is available, like Cell towers or Satellite, but this can get expensive fast is you pay for your usage.

Don't steal wifi if it's an "always on" feed as that kind of bandwidth usage can raise red flags and let the host get a letter from the ISP.

Anyways, how remote is your grow? To be honest it'd be pretty difficult to do this an engineer it in a way where you are totally divorced from your grow, meaning some way some how if someone else, like LEO, captured the feed you would be connected to it in some way/shape/form.

Anything sent "over the air" is steal able. LEO can steal it, taleneted programmers, whatever. If you arent providing the connection, I'd say then you may not want to go this route, as you'll have to use an over the air or try to steal wired cable.

I hope this helps, I do networking for a living so I'll try to help you more if you follow up . . .

 

[VirginHarvester]

His grow is completely computer controlled and he apparantly just drops by every now and then to say hi to his girls. Oldsanclem is one of the worst writers you could ever hope to encounter; he can't spell, he can't type, he has trouble putting a sentence together. But don't let that fool you. He's one smart cookie and, if you take the time to decipher what he's saying, you can learn a lot from him. As I recall, he gets into some pretty specific details about hardware and controllers and computer programs. Anyhoo, you can search his posts over there if you are so inclined.

Sounds like the dude was smart enough to make it look like this was not him typing in case his comp gets nabbed. Smart way to do it.

 

[apartmentblower]

Wow, great replies. thanks again pharmacan i will look that guy up. youve helped me out like 3 times in 12 hours lol

without reading that cannabis.com yet, the best way so far is setup internet access and modem in someone elses name and pay for it all pay money order every month.



i realize that it may well be virtually impossible to do a grow at this level of unnatachedness (thats not a real word) but every step closer to a total abandonable place with no trace to your real identity is just that little extra degree of protection.

 

[In Vino Veritas]

you're not thinking the right way..

there are well documented ways to make a fake identity..i'd just make a faux identity to handle all my interactions with the landlord and to do my internet/utility connections. all they ask for is a name, an address, and a deposit..once you have a bill under your name at an address you can walk to the dmv and have them take a picture so you can get your identification card...copy of a birth certificate is not that difficult to obtain.. you'd be surprised what a few days of no water, too much sun, and no shaving can do to your appearance in a dmv id picture..

that's doing it the hard way, if my 16 yo sister can get a fake id with a working magnet strip for 150 bucks you shouldn't have a problem faking who you are for setting up a spot.

 

[etinarcadiaego]

Yah I don't know if I'd do all that fake identity stuff the poster above me mentioned. I have known clients who obtained false identities to evade income and payroll taxes, but it was rather expensive to get "legal" documentation. I'm not talking about high-school level fake IDs, but SS cards and the like. Took em years to get it, I have no idea how either, but they got it. This has been maybe 10 years ago now though.

I don't know about Cali, but here you need a photo ID to obtain a photo ID at the DMV, if it's a "re-issue" you'll need your Social Security card, bills and utility stuff counts as 1 of the 3 forms of ID they require and at least one needs to be a picture ID, even an expired Passport. This is a 2009 post-Bush America, and not much has changed . . .

They are cracking down on that kind of stuff here. Plus you'd be committing like 5 new crimes just to be able to watch your other crime over the internet. lol

If all you need is a name and an address to set up internet for remote grow, by all means have them do it. But that assumes it's already wired, and if it aint people will come and wire it for you, or you could do it, it's easy. What is the location of the grow? Like it is residential or commercial? Big city or the sticks?

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Wow, OldSanClem lol

I learned to grow from him via the internet 11 years ago. I was 15 when I got into weed growing forums heavily, like an addiction. I have his name here on my buddy list incase he ever pops in, Sanclem

 

[bongoie]

Interesting topic
I've thought of getting a remote cam for checking on my attic grow , but i'm paranoid in case a neighbour or who ever can pic it up .

I dont even like getting incriminating texts on the fone as there stored , an it's not regestered to me , arent mobile fones like a GPS , yea got a good dose of parra or i'm carefull . 1 of the 2 .

 

[dreadvik]

What's traceable about a webserver you call into using tor?

What sort of bandwidth are some of you on about? It's either a on demand 640x480 video feed so don't watch it 24/7 or it's pics on demand. Hardly killer when the person who owns the line is probably gaming, torrenting, porn trawling, etc he will prob think its his traffic but believe me unless you are sending the stream constantly to another machine at at least 80% of the line speed no one is going to go over quota etc, and you would never do this would you since when they get the camera they find your fixed target and own you! if you worry about bandwidth shape it on the box running apache

Remember to secure it with htaccess tho or it could get scanned and someone will then find the media which could be an issue.

Programmers don't do security well btw it's security experts who do that LEO can watch what they like but they will have trouble working out who is using the Tor content and seeing the Tor content.

UK SMS have been being stored officially since last October and yes it is very easily for them to trace where a mobile is most of the time etc and gauge movements. Your better off using an encrypted IM software like OTR for those kind of comms if you have to but this means being online 24/7

 

[In Vino Veritas]

There are a few companies who offer cell phone service unlimited for about 50-100 bucks, you don't need a photo i.d. They take cash and are happy for you to do an anonymous sign up since that is where they make most of their commission - minus the 2-3 bucks every time you walk in and pay your bill.

You may be right about the photo id at the dmv to get a re-issue. You don't need a real official license though, a quality fake one is fine. You just want something to present your landlord when you first sign a rental contract, fake name/previous addy/number. Most of them make a copy along with the contract and the first/last check (you'd be paying cash or money order).. It's 2009 bro, have you seen the fake id's in high schools nowadays? Like I said, they even have em so when they do ID checks the magnet strips work, holograms, it's nuts. Crazy ass kids and their damned computers.

I'm as far possible from most of you guys, and I do understand how this "fascist state" abuses us... But it's still America for fucks sake, where there is a will there is a way. I don't see it as the government abusing it's power, it's a checks and balance game.. We still have plenty of power if we take time to figure out the system and how it works.

It's 10am and I just had a beer with my morning toke..lol..ignore me.

 

[GrowersUnite]

mifi, it just came out, it's a portable wifi connection. it's 3g speeds, which i have no idea how fast that is. You might be able to run linux on it? it has a usb port.

 

[sito007]

sound like an old thread on OG ,when someone did a complete setup with a c-22 closet and mounted a touchscreen on the front door of closet with digital cam that took shoots . system sends it by pic-text and would also send updates on temp in closet , if the light are turn on or when it turned off.

 

[Aerokush101]

GOOD IDEA, you could use Mypc.com as a way to tap into a computer in a remote location, set up the security cameras to the computer, sign on and there you are...You can even have a record for movement in your system, check the security of your room from outside your grow place before you go in with your laptop and wireless LAN card. Your computer inside will have a wireless router connected to it, any questions???

 

[lysol]

GOOD IDEA, you could use Mypc.com as a way to tap into a computer in a remote location, set up the security cameras to the computer, sign on and there you are...You can even have a record for movement in your system, check the security of your room from outside your grow place before you go in with your laptop and wireless LAN card. Your computer inside will have a wireless router connected to it, any questions???

No, thats a bad idea because they would likely cooperate with LEO, best thing is to have the camera capture still pictures or low framerate video and stream it off a cheap $200 linux box, theres an OS project called ffmpeg that should help you achieve your task. Log into your box and stream the video / pics over a secure SSH tunneled over port 80 at a starbucks, disable all logging on that server for all the services you are running, or better yet write a script to write fake log entries via a crontab to obscure your IP and such.

I think all you need is an EIN # which you can register an LLC in your state online for $100, no source of ID required, just a safe addy to receive your certification, file form SS4 I think you got an EIN which is as good as a SSN, most ISPS want a tax id, address & name to send the bill & contact phone # for the account owner.

Wireless routers = big no no