Seaweed for rooting clones?

[CT Guy]

CT Guy

What interested me in this specific bull kelp product is the method they use to make their seaweed concentrate: Kelp hydrolysate perhaps?

LOL

CC

The product I got was from 2 guys here in WA. Can't remember the name of the company, but the sample came in a little dropper container, and also in a little fast food ketchup size baggie. I really liked the idea of a local product, but wasn't able to get it to work microbially the way I wanted it to.

Maybe your source is different due to their extraction and procession methods.

Too many damn products out there, it's hard to keep it all straight!

 

[Maina]

I have my seeds in a compost/worm casting mix at this time some havent come out of the soil yet.I have some of the Acadian powderd kelp .I keep the soil damp with water ,Can I mix some of the kelp powder lets say 1/4 table spoon to a gallon and add that to the mix with the seeds in it or will it be to hot and burn them?Or would 1 table spoon per gallon be ok?Also the ones that are out of the soul 1-2 inches would there rooting help if they got the kelp/water to ?

 

[SuperSizeMe]

I recently started utilizing some seaweed extract I already had and have noticed a marked improvement in all phases of the growth cycle.

I have yet to apply it to cloning, but I'll be sure to do some side-by-sides to get a better understanding of how to use it.

Good stuff, guys

K++

 

[High Country]

Ok, clones are now 7 days old in jiffy pellets, dome stays off now.

Time for the seaweed at 20ml per 9 litre.

38 clones still looking healthy, on track to a 100% strike rate.

They have just been given a feed of the Seasol.

No roots poking out from the jiffy pellets yet.

Lets wait and see what the seaweed does.

 

[BudZad7]

Silicone!!

Silicone!!

Hi All !!! Capt Cheese your right on the money!!!!!

 

[High Country]

9 days on and clones have been fed seaweed daily since day 7.

Roots starting to appear.

All 38 clones alive and healthy, they should all have roots busting out in 14 days. No deaths, 100% strike rate.

Has the seaweed improved the strike rate?

Unfortunately I did not do a control group so it is difficult to say.

The clones are behaving like they always have on previous cloning runs.

I'll have a better idea at 14 days.

 

[High Country]

9 days on and clones have been fed seaweed daily since day 7.

Roots starting to appear.

All 38 clones alive and healthy, they should all have roots busting out in 14 days. No deaths, 100% strike rate.

Has the seaweed improved the strike rate?

Unfortunately I did not do a control group so it is difficult to say.

The clones are behaving like they always have on previous cloning runs.

I'll have a better idea at 14 days.

Well 14 days are up and the clones have had their daily dose of seaweed extract.

38 CLONES, HEALTHY. 100% STRIKE RATE

WE HAVE ROOTS LIKE THIS ON EVERY CLONE

HEALTHY WHITE ROOTS

CONCLUSION

On previous clone runs I have got close to a 100% strike rate. Not one failed on this occasion.

I have not had roots this prevalent at 14 days before.

They are in veg mode and growing already.

Certainly appears to work.

HOORAH!

 

[Azeotrope]

Clackamas Coot -

Just picked up a gallon of the Eco-Nutrients Kelp product. The only thing I can find around my area (I miss Seattle!). Years of using Kelp and this will be my first go with this 'style'. Going to have to wait and see......

 

[CT Guy]

Clackamas Coot -

Just picked up a gallon of the Eco-Nutrients Kelp product. The only thing I can find around my area (I miss Seattle!). Years of using Kelp and this will be my first go with this 'style'. Going to have to wait and see......

From what I understand that's a bull kelp, but they are working with TL Senn supposedly and he's the seaweed guru. Let us know how it turns out!

 

[Azeotrope]

I had some seedlings that were not showing the usual vigor. I have a horrible shoulder (due to be reconstructed next week) so I have been less 'indulgent' with my mix this time to save on labor. So, last night I hit them with some of the kelp foliar and a root drench of 2tbs/gallon + ewc tea. They were reaching for the sky 12hrs later... To soon to credit the kelp, but I suspect it didn't hurt. I'll update after a few days and as things move on. Although, typing might be tough for a while!LOL

 

[Clackamas Coot]

The more interesting aspect of the Eco-Nutrient Liquid Kelp product is that it's enzyme-extracted vs. the other 3 normal methods used around the kelp extract world.

RE: Bull Kelp

One thing that folks may want to consider, like CT Guy mentioned earlier on this thread, the North Atlantic Kelp variety is the one that has been studied the most over the past 90 years.

China is exporting kelp meal around the world. The variety that is being used is the Bull Kelp one. If you want to use the North Atlantic Kelp product(s), then you'll need to get the product out of Acadian Seaplants, Ltc. (ASL) out of Nova Scotia.

In the Western States it's often labled 'Light House' brand with a smaller ASL logo on the top left hand side on their 50# bags. It's also a bit darker than the Bull Kelp meal being sold.

Price is another indicator. On the West Coast, ASL kelp meal is generally about $80.00 and generally a few dollars less. The Bull Kelp meals are going for as little as $35.00 per bag.

Just a head's up.

CT Guy

Yesterday I was at a grocery store that is based in Seattle, i.e. Haggens. At this store (which is very nice) they have a fairly large garden section and they had a couple of pallets of a potting soil from Fernwood, Washington (I was reminded of 'Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman') and the name of the potting soil was 'Intrepid' - Coco-Coir.com

It was certified organic by the Washington State Department of Agriculture (no OMRI label though - YAY!) and the list of ingredients was pretty impressive.

The bags are 1.25 c.f. and they cost $7.99 per bag. At the Intrepid web site they have it listed for $18.95 for the same bag. LOL

I was just wondering if you've seen this product up north.

Thanks!

cC

 

[CT Guy]

CT Guy

Yesterday I was at a grocery store that is based in Seattle, i.e. Haggens. At this store (which is very nice) they have a fairly large garden section and they had a couple of pallets of a potting soil from Fernwood, Washington (I was reminded of 'Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman') and the name of the potting soil was 'Intrepid' - Coco-Coir.com

It was certified organic by the Washington State Department of Agriculture (no OMRI label though - YAY!) and the list of ingredients was pretty impressive.

The bags are 1.25 c.f. and they cost $7.99 per bag. At the Intrepid web site they have it listed for $18.95 for the same bag. LOL

I was just wondering if you've seen this product up north.

Thanks!

cC

CC,


I haven't seen it, though I don't even know where I would find a Haggens around here. We only seem to have QFC and Safeway. Is Top Foods the same as Haggens? I'll watch for it though and pick up a bag if I get a chance.

On a side note, we're submitting our composts and foods for WA State certification this week. Been a long time coming getting it certified....

 

[Clackamas Coot]

CC,

On a side note, we're submitting our composts and foods for WA State certification this week. Been a long time coming getting it certified....

Great news indeed! I know that WA is as strict (maybe even more so) as Oregon's laws.

That should help you in marketing your products and services I would think!

CC

 

[headband 707]

I can't say I have used that but I could try lol

I can't say I have used that but I could try lol

I do know the Willow tree shoots are very effective for cloning as they contain the rooting hormone need for rooting.. Just cut the new branches mash up the banches make a solution and your golden..
I also know that coco is also very effective for rooting as the substance itself is just that a substance for rooting.. The coconut is in the mixture it drops from the tree ..with this stuff surrounding it for rooting. This is why coco is so good for the roots...peace out Headband707

 

[treefrog]

I know this thread is about seaweed and cloning, but wanted to mention..
For many years now, I've soaked my seeds in a medium to strong liquid seaweed solution (maxicrop) for 24 hours, then put them directly into moist soil. I always have 100% germination, even with seeds that are 10+ years old.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

For many years now, I've soaked my seeds in a medium to strong liquid seaweed solution (maxicrop) for 24 hours, then put them directly into moist soil. I always have 100% germination, even with seeds that are 10+ years old.

treefrog

The same is said about humic/fulvic acids as well as the promoters of EM-1.

Perhaps it's the organic material that comes into contact with the seed hull which results in high-germination rates?

CC

 

[treefrog]

treefrog

The same is said about humic/fulvic acids as well as the promoters of EM-1.

Perhaps it's the organic material that comes into contact with the seed hull which results in high-germination rates?

CC

Yeah, that could be. I bet one would get the same results with an EWC tea, seeing as any live seeds in the worm-bin germinate.
I'm going to try that next time. Maybe with a combination of the two we can get those "Panama Red" beans from '74 to germinate..

 

[treefrog]

Also, I'm sure a quality seaweed product, with an extraction method that doesn't destroy enzymes, would be far superior. I just happen to have too much Maxicrop..lol