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Sea Solids make plants EXPLODE in hydro!!

PetFlora

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Flushing

When getting down to the last 4-5 days of flushing I started using only ~70ppm Sea Crop in my hydro. RO water <30ppm

Is it advisable to add some Hydroponic Research V + B, or maybe just some CaMg?
 

Stonefree69

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Flushing

When getting down to the last 4-5 days of flushing I started using only ~70ppm Sea Crop in my hydro. RO water <30ppm

Is it advisable to add some Hydroponic Research V + B, or maybe just some CaMg?
If you are of the non-starving at flush type I'd say at least add the CalMag (w/ < 30 ppm RO water). I'm of the non-starving at flush type variety. ;)
 

Stonefree69

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Seems like that would help, but how much?
I don't think you would need much - say 1-2 ml per gallon RDWC. In flower I add Dyna-Gro Mag-Pro 2.5 ml/gallon during mid-flower, down to 1 ml/gallon at end. It won't raise your ppm that much.
 

PetFlora

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That's a hell of a lot of P

not at all healthy to smoke

I'll look for plain ole CaMg
 

Stonefree69

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That's a hell of a lot of P

not at all healthy to smoke

I'll look for plain ole CaMg
Yeah I looked @ Mag-Pro: 2-15-4 :eek: Well it is 1 ml/gallon but I use RO too and that's where it's made up from lack of...

Homebrewer likes Dyna-Gro as well and says (from a quick search) "3-1-2 for veg though I've found 1-1-1 works just as well. 1-3-2 for flower is by far the best NPK ratio I've tried thus far. ". Guess as long as there's not too much N in there. I like to taper light and N for 3 weeks going to flower.

Ditto here: "I rotate fert blends as the plant *requires* them, not because it is "the thing to do." For example, when your plants are going thru the stretch phase during early flowering, they may need more N, especially if you're getting some yellowing in the lower/mid leaves. Give up the cannabis paradigms, and give them what they need. Go back to mild high P fert when the stretch ends, maintaining the foliage in a healthy state of growth until harvest for maximum yields. A 1-3-2 blend such as Peter's Pro Blossom Booster, 10-30-20, is one of the best flowering blends on the market because of several factors - it is higher in nitrate N and Mg. It is sold under the Jack's Classic label. An added benefit of Peter's blends is their use of high quality, very pure salts that will cut down on root burn."
 

PetFlora

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Since we're only talking about the final ~ 2weeks...

How about good old Epsom Salts? or a CalMg human supplement?


Yeah I looked @ Mag-Pro: 2-15-4 :eek: Well it is 1 ml/gallon but I use RO too and that's where it's made up from lack of...

Homebrewer likes Dyna-Gro as well and says (from a quick search) "3-1-2 for veg though I've found 1-1-1 works just as well. 1-3-2 for flower is by far the best NPK ratio I've tried thus far. ". Guess as long as there's not too much N in there. I like to taper light and N for 3 weeks going to flower.
 

Stonefree69

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Since we're only talking about the final ~ 2weeks...

How about good old Epsom Salts? or a CalMg human supplement?
Epsom Salts is on many a good gardener's grow shelf. ;)

If CalMg human supplement should be chelated (more bioavailable).
 

PetFlora

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Looking on Sea Crop www, I could not find a breakdown of elements, nor an email contact

I had a few capsules of MgCa (2:1) I just added one to the rez.

In the mean time, reading an excerpt from Dr Ms book

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/SEA.html

there is enough potassium and enough phosphorus in the ocean water if one gets the complete sea solids.
 
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PetFlora

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Deep in flush mode last 7-10 days, using ~ 70ppm Sea Crop only, a fair amount of new pistils

On a recommendation to amp up tric production using 10K bulbs, 2 days ago I replaced some red spectrum hot5 tubes with 3 Quantum 6500s, which is a fall back position

Zipping through this thread, this morning I added MgCa (2:1) supplement for humans then decided to add a pinch of HR V+B= ~ 270ppms. I plan to dilute that to ~ 200 in a bit

Thought I would post new pics


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DonScroggin

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I plan to use Sea 90 at up to 1500-2000ppm in later stages. I will either use coco or promix with mycorrhizae, and water by hand. Im thinking I will feed once a week and flush with water in between. This is all just an experiment for 3 of my girls, with 3 others I will lessen the salts and add some organic npk. Any feedback would be great! Thanks!
 
Most interesting way I've seen of feeding plants.:tiphat: Makes me excited to get my waterfarm pack running. I'll most likely stick with my GH/Peters though and foliar seacrop. Nugs sound tasty.
 

bskl76

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Sodium chloride

Sodium chloride

himalayan salt is 98% NaCl and sea90 is about 85% do the math mate its what stopped me thinking along the line of feeding plants just sea salt. considering i run about 750ppm on full blown plants in dwc with a 300ppm background ppm orsica's numbers seemed crazy to me. 1500ppm of sea90 would undoubtedly burn your plants, or maybe not....

Osirica420 mentioned high levels of sodium chloride in sea salt Is needed along with low levels of npk nute. I know this sounds crazy but thts why u have to lower ur npk nutes @200ppm
 

EclipseFour20

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A post I made in a different thread....

The "sodium chloride" in Table Salt vs Sea Salt are not the same.

Sea90 is what I use; more affordable than Pink Himalayan Salt (about $1/pound) and contains 90+ elements (including almost all the naturally occurring elements). Rather than make a sole, I found grinding the chunky "sea minerals" with a coffee grinder before mixing in water increases the solubility of the "salt".

Their website has a wealth of information on both agriculture and nutritional uses of "sea minerals". http://seaagri.com/

I include Sea90 in my custom grow mix as well as my "mineral brew" (5ml/gallon--every 10-14 days) and I experience zero issues with salt accumulation--no flushing here.

Some may suggest the amount of sodium chloride (NaCl) in sea water products will be toxic for agricultural use and should be avoided. That claim is correct for "table salt" but may not be accurate for "sea salt".

The NaCl in "table salt" is refined, inorganic, and considered a "single metal" salt (sodium only). Just like anything consumed in mass quantities--fatality can result (4-5 teaspoons of table salt ingested all at once can be fatal to humans). But the NaCl found in celery (about 30 milligrams per stalk) is of the "organic" variety and hardly fatal...like table salt is. Therefor, the variety of NaCl not for agriculture use is "single metal" inorganic table salt (there are no trace minerals in table salt).

Even though Sea90 is 80-85% NaCl, unlike the sodium in table salt (which is surrounded by a single element--chloride), the NaCl in Sea90 is buffered by the 90+ elements (trace minerals) thus making "sea water" an aqueous solution that "sustains life"--unlike table salt that "takes life".

Almost all ocean based products like kelp and liquid fish have high NaCl numbers--and these are not "toxic" when used smartly.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6668615&postcount=15
 

CaStoner

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Hey castoner thanks for sharing looks awsome. How is the smoke?

I don't know I'm currently flushing them, but they look and smell awesome..I'm currently smoking some cured buds I had curing in mason jars for about 3 years, taste smooth and powerful smoke....From the Mandala strains..
 

bskl76

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bskl76

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Sea solid buds

Sea solid buds

I don't know I'm currently flushing them, but they look and smell awesome..I'm currently smoking some cured buds I had curing in mason jars for about 3 years, taste smooth and powerful smoke....From the Mandala strains..

Can u please update us cause from what I'm told it will be fire? U can grow same strain with sea salt & bottled nutes but sea salts will taste better. Thanks for sharing castoner I'm in bakersfield ca so u should be in same state. :biggrin:
 
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