Scrogging, topping, or LST, which do you prefer?

[agent 420]

Whats your favorite training method? I've seen growers get alot of good results from all of these methods.

I've only tried LST(Low Stress Trianing) so far, tying them down around the side of the pot. Got pretty good results, way better than letting them just grow out with no training.

I'm sure within each method there are numerous ways to go about it, so lets hear what works best for you!

 

[Maj.PotHead]

LST combined with FIM my last 2 girls wound up with 13 main branchs and tops each and hella lower sites had 8oz dry from 5sqft floor and 400w hps. this time around im rolling the die on scrogged clones

 

[Guest]

I like lst its super easy and doesnt seem to stop your plant growing at all. I also have tried fim ^ both accidently and on purpose, i liked the results but this round think i am going for just lst.
Good luck with what you decide!

 

[minds_I]

I have scrogged twice and LST'ed twice and I am currently using the LST method.

I think it is easier myself to LST. I tie the branches to the pot, to the plant stem-wherever there is a holddown spot-mush easier then twining the plant through the screen.

But that is my thinking.

minds_I

 

[Guest]

I like to try the LST method early in its life. Then when the branches are strong and its still growing up. I start pinching leaves at the tops. The when I see the first sign of fuzzy white hairs I twist the tops without removing them or harming them just a small twist pinch.

 

[Tunefull]

Nice thread

Myself i aint been growing all that long(Think on 3rd or 4th grow now)But for my first grow i looked into a lot of methods to keep the overall height down(But good yeild)
My room is only 4 and a half foot hi,So this was somit i new i had to work out....

Anyway
I ended up going for LST method rather than Scrog/Sog
I dont know LST just seemed much easier for me to understand,I could picture it in my mind more than how a screen would get filled(Bear in mind i had loads of other growing info buzzing in my head aswell)(Tho i am sure if i tried a screen now i would fill it np(i can see what they do now(just could not see it before(Could not picture how my plant would grow))

So yes For me It is LST all the way
I really enjoyed filddling with them to get them how i wanted(I only had three plants)
It was nice to tie the main stem down,Then Tie down any Runaway side shoots( i read if a side stem overtakes your main stem,Then it would become your main cola(if u see what i mean)

Maj.PotHead
I Have never Tried to top my plants,I have looked into in the past,And thought i new what to do,Then i was looking to try and top one of my tomotoe plants(i guess all plants are the same)
But i dont think i done it right(ANd i just have a dead bit of stem where i took some of the top off(I done it about a week back,Maybe it will recover)

I have tho had a few clones that i took a bit late in flower,And as a result,They seemed to top themselfs(ended up with maybe 3-5 stems)
So yes i enjoyed then LSTing all them*smielS*




for My currant LST tho i am going to try and get my plants to go Right around my pots(in a circle)
I am only halfway round the pot tho(And i be putting them to flower in a weeek or two*Frowns*




Anyway enough from me
Look forward to hearing more about some of your tricks guys

 

[Guest]

The best method is not to train at all and let them be. Plants grow faster, no stress, they'll be ready for more food and produce more. They're also very cool with huge colas. And it works in SOG (moms&kids), which is a very efficient grow method, btw

 

[clearcutter]

I like to top them once or twice, or LST them. More often than not i'll go with topping.

 

[Guest]

First of all...stay away from scrog, unless you only have one plant, and alot of room, and nothing better to do with your time than train a plant for a few months and watch it get stressed out to the point that your buds are just not what you had looked forward to....or expected, based on all the pictures you have seen elsewhere.

Just top it once at about 8" tall, then transplant about a week later into your final container....grow for about two weeks....should be about 10 - 12" now....then flower. Your girl will go nuts in the flower room as she speads her wings, and produce the kind of buds you knew she was capable of. Of course all your other elements must be correct(light, water, food, temp)

Cheers,
SH

 

[Closet Funk]

I would use all. I'll top at about the 5th node then begin to LST so the branches can start growing good. Sometimes a messed up topping can result in a fimmed plant which means even more tops. In a ScrOG I would top and also LST so that more branches can develop. I haven't tried ScrOG yet but I plant on next grow. LST is a must if you have smaller lights.

 

[Space Ghost]

I use all three, I lst at about 4-6 nodes, then top the many tops as result from the lst, then put under a screen

 

[Skunkenstein]

Call me Old Skool,,But I still like topping.We call it ''Addition by Subtraction''.I like to top very early 3-4 internode..Their growing so damn fast they hardly notice it.Then take cuttings as they become available.Transplant,then Flip. We are doing a LST @ the moment though on a very strange, but extremly potent unknown lineage.Has flat crowns of leaves,very resinous leaves..almost greasy,rotton smell,shitty yeild,but does she Pack a Wallop...we call her Miss Ghani.She reminds me of a purple Domina I once had...except more potent.

 

[agent 420]

wow, never thought about trying all three methods together.
Sounds like everyone has thier own unique approach, and others prefer no training.

Scogging does seem like a bit more work than other techniques but the results seem so impressive. I'll give it a try one day, but I think I'll keep messing around with LST for a while.
Skunkenstein, I like the term "addition by subtraction." Let's hear some more old skool knowledge.

I'm currently attempting to top some of my skunks, wish me luck. Don't want to be too rough with em.
Will giving the tops a thorough bending until the stem is soft produce a similar effect to topping?

 

[agent 420]

Will giving the tops a thorough bending until the stem is soft produce a similar effect to topping?

Anyone???? anyone at all?

 

[4iiii'z]

top the mums
LST in flower when needed

mostly let them grow unfettered

 

[GMT]

no.
Personally for yield maximisation on plants, i dont think you cn beat multiple topping. I start at the node with the single bladed leaves (not sure if you would call that 1,2,or -1 node), and then top each and every node on every branch untill you get one layer of buding ssites at the top. That reduces the popcorn sites at the bottom. Unless you are pollinating some of the lower sites, then skip a few topping sites to allow seeding sites to grow there. I have a link to a demo on my homepage if you're that interested.

 

[Space Ghost]

agent 420,yeah, that will work, what you are talking about is supercropping.

 

[JWP]

I think flowering clones & reveged plants should be added to the list because I do them both because they are an easy way for me to get the desired growth for scrog. I also prefer to fim plants from seed.

 

[Guest]

I am starting from seed and debating wether to fim, lst, etc, i too have height restrictions (4ft) im going to be growing 4 girls in 10l pots eventually, at the moment they are in pint pots as only gremed them a week ago,,, what do y'all think what should i do, and when should i start? many thx Rhino

 

[Guest]

seed grown plants are best topped at the 4th node,use the top for clone mother