Scott's potting soil

[anonamauz]

wow- can you say 'threadjack'? guess that's what i get for not checking in...
I went ahead and transplanted- I think everything was a bit too soggy (even though I added a decent amount of perlite in the mix!), so i cut the new batch w/ even more perlite, and watered very lightly. Everything looks much better.

thanks Jack, and everyone else who was constructive in this thread...

 

[Guest]

Its a good Idea to try to have your mix about 30-40 percent perlite(or vermiculite if thats what you like to use). I know a few people that actually go 50 percent. I am sure the new soil with more airation will help out a bit.

Good luck.

 

[mrwags]

desi

this type of thing is NOT acceptable in grow threads



start a thread in the tokers den or the cannabis law and politics area where others can add commentary, im sure youll find some other 'deep thinkers' in there that you can level with.

desi: find a new poison. coke is weak.

smoke some weed desi. please.

Desiderata you seem very gifted with your words and redaing between the lines I see you are busting to share BUT DUDE you gotta start a THREAD FOR YOU MAN. Some of what you have posted so far is no way no how associated with the purpose of the intended thread so PLEASE if you like it here make a place for you in The Tokers Den and if others share your thoughts they will come but please keep it out of class.


Have A Nice Day
Mr.Wags

 

[HerbanLegend]

I've used "Scott's pottings soil for new seedlings" to start my White Widow. All sprouted quickly and grew well without any complications. As already stated, It'd be a good idea to add more perlite (I added about 30% to the soil).
-HL

 

[Desiderata]

Yeah, I was way out there and out of line.

Is the Scott's more expensive than the organic Miracle Grow? anyone know? The MG is $3 a bag. A couple friends use it and add extra perlite, blood and bone meal, with surprisingly good results.

Thanks for everyones input last night. It was the alcohol talking, and the coke fueling my lost in space dis-adventure.

Overwatering was always a problem for me using Jungle Growth potting soil until I learned about adding plenty of perlite for extra drainage and increased oxygen to the roots. Cannabis thrives in well drained soil.

 

[anonamauz]

already looking much better. I added perlite to the original batch, but still managed to overwater. How the heck does this plant survive in the wild?!

 

[Desiderata]

HerbanLegend, yeah, 30% perlite seems to be a happy medium for potting soils. That's what I use now.

I've just started using coarse vermiculite in small amounts as an experiment. It looks like alittle amount goes a long way. I have noticed slight compaction with slightly better water retention. It was Ed Rosenthal that years ago banned vermiculite for fear of naturally occuring asbestos. I think it's more of a myth now. Pro Mix contains a small amount of vermiculite for example.

Using Scotts or similar brands is probably the smartest way to go in the long run. I like to think mixing my own gives my plants an extra edge by fine tuning into their individual needs. It's a lot of extra work though when I don't have enough time for all that life demands.

Thanks guys for all you share.

 

[Desiderata]

anonamauz, well, add more perlite then. I cultivate the top soil slightly after a thourgh watering and I use a metal or wooden skewer to areate the soil deep down inside the pot. It creates tiny air tunnels down into the roots and will perk up the leaves after a full watering or feeding.

Glad to hear they are improving!

 

[Guest]

scuse the CAPS but -- VERMICULITE AND PERLITE ARE *NOT* INTERCHANGABLE

scuse the CAPS but -- VERMICULITE AND PERLITE ARE *NOT* INTERCHANGABLE

Its a good Idea to try to have your mix about 30-40 percent perlite(or vermiculite if thats what you like to use). I know a few people that actually go 50 percent. I am sure the new soil with more airation will help out a bit.

Good luck.

SORRY TO BURST YER BUBBLE
BUT I LET THIS SLIDE THE FIRST TIME YOU SAID IT IN THIS THREAD,
SINCE YOU'RE SAYING IT AGAIN I FEEL I MUST CLEAR THIS UP..


VERMICULITE IS A MOISTURE RETAINER -
HOLDS MORE WATER THAN MOST ANY AGGREGATE

PERLITE IS A SOIL AERATOR -
ALSO HOLDS SOME WATER, BUT PRIMARILY A SOIL AERATOR


ADDING VERMICULITE AT A RATE OF 50/50 VERM SOIL WILL LEAD TO ROOT DISEASE IF YOU HAVE A HEAVY WATERING HAND.
IF THE PLANTS ARE ALREADY SHOWING SIGNS OF MOISTURE STRESS YOU WANT TO KEEP THE VERM, CASTINS, MC, LEVELS LOW IF XPLANTIN

LETS STOP THE SPREAD OF MISINFORMATION, SHALL WE?

vermiculite is NOT a soil aerator....PERIOD

 

[10k]

Desiderata wrote...
Yeah, I was way out there and out of line

and

Thanks for everyones input last night. It was the alcohol talking, and the coke fueling my lost in space dis-adventure.

Wow Des, pfeeew you were looking like quite a loonie tune for awhile there.

Please dont go anywhere near your computer next time you decide to go on another binge. "High jacking" a thread like that could have easily gotten you into a sticky situation which could end up getting someone banned.

Thanks for deleting those obnoxious posts Des, good to see you back with the living too.

I'm very impressed at the way the members here self moderated this situation all the way though to the point of Desiderata finally sobering up.


This photo CaptainJack posted in one reply was priceless...
I just about fell outta my chair.

lessons learned eh Des... heh heh heh

 

[10k]

CaptainJack wrote...
VERMICULITE IS A MOISTURE RETAINER -
HOLDS MORE WATER THAN MOST ANY AGGREGATE

PERLITE IS A SOIL AERATOR -
ALSO HOLDS SOME WATER, BUT PRIMARILY A SOIL AERATOR

I agree

 

[Desiderata]

Thanks 10k, you are too gracious, as well as WWM and Captain Jack. My boss does the suff, and I have about quit. It makes me want to drink and it allows me to drink way too much. IC had been the best influence on me since I joined. I was smoking too, but the coke and wine are over powering. Like Jack said, coke is weak and poison!

 

[Guest]

SORRY TO BURST YER BUBBLE
BUT I LET THIS SLIDE THE FIRST TIME YOU SAID IT IN THIS THREAD,
SINCE YOU'RE SAYING IT AGAIN I FEEL I MUST CLEAR THIS UP..


VERMICULITE IS A MOISTURE RETAINER -
HOLDS MORE WATER THAN MOST ANY AGGREGATE

PERLITE IS A SOIL AERATOR -
ALSO HOLDS SOME WATER, BUT PRIMARILY A SOIL AERATOR


ADDING VERMICULITE AT A RATE OF 50/50 VERM SOIL WILL LEAD TO ROOT DISEASE IF YOU HAVE A HEAVY WATERING HAND.
IF THE PLANTS ARE ALREADY SHOWING SIGNS OF MOISTURE STRESS YOU WANT TO KEEP THE VERM, CASTINS, MC, LEVELS LOW IF XPLANTIN

LETS STOP THE SPREAD OF MISINFORMATION, SHALL WE?

vermiculite is NOT a soil aerator....PERIOD

Dont know why i put verm in there as I know its for retention and not drainage. I know a lot of people who use it for just that purpose, 35% perlite, 35% vermiculite, and 30% soilless mix(usualy peat for them if i remember)


I dont recommend using vermiculite if you are having overwatering issues and I Apologize if I actually mislead anyone.

I dont use verm myself, I dont have a need for it. Sorry again for any wrong info on my part. I have been operatig which a touch of food poisonig the past few days so I havent really been myself



I believe I told him to use perlite and vermiculite, the combo works great together and If I worded it wrong than its my fault. Vermiculite DOES work as an airator also, while it does retain some water, not all vermiculite will retaint he same amount of water. It depends on what type you are using. There are different sizes which are more porous than others which would hold more water obviously. So to say that vermiculite is for water rentention ONLY is a bit misleading.



And I NEVER said to use verm/soil at a 50/50 mix. I would only suggest 50 percent soil and then 50 percent of your airator of choice.

 

[Guest]

vermiculite is NOT a soil aerator....PERIOD

Ok Imnot trying to cause any troubles here, but that is a little bit misleading. As Vermiculite does have use as an airator. With its posours hole it holds water as well as AIR.

I dont want to have a pissing match here, so lets just agree to disagree.

 

[Desiderata]

Hey Trey, I just saw one of my bags of Vermiculite and on the front it said 'soil conditioner' and......let me go look again..........okay, on the back of Jungle Growth (yeah it's ten years old.....lol) Horticultural Vermiculite it saya:

1) Helps provide humidity to soil.

2) Good for cuttings, keep moist.

3) Can be used with any potting soil.

4) Good for outdoor soils by providing extra water retention and aeration.

The keyword there is 'outdoor soils' for better aeration. Here in the south the red clay could use verm as a definate soil conditioner for both purposes, aeration and better water retention.

So I'm glad this discussion has furthered itself to accuracy.

 

[Guest]

lol

lol

believe what you want to, no skin off my back









amazin what a joke this site has turned into

 

[Guest]

Ps. www.vermiculite.org
do some research before runnin yer trap trey
your ruse may fool the casual passer-byer,
but to those who know, ya sound like a total idiot
just admit yer wrong and stop misleading new growers

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

....wow......what a strange route this thread is taking.......


.....do I need to chuck anyone in the cooler...........or am I too late?.......lol!


.......Let's keep it about the growing fella's/gal's.............


....Maybe I should set up a 'Rant till you Pant' forum?........Hmmm...